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There's not a lot of context needed. No matter how he said it or what prompted it, the quote is awfully arrogant.Originally posted by wazzubruce:
Yeah, before everyone throws Connor under the bus.... let's at least examine the context of this comment.
Halliday is who he is, don't agree with his comment. He's somewhat true, but also, like many people have said, we've been blown out many times when he was QB. He threw costly picks that ended the UW and Auburn game and played like garbage against Nevada this year. Somehow we won at USC not scoring an offensive touchdown. He cost us the OSU game in '13 b/c he got into a pissing match with Leach on the sidelines and quit during the game and didn't give a crap about the outcome. He was playing well in that game until he didn't like what he heard from Leach. Halliday needs to step back and look at his actions, comments like this don't impress GM's and coaches, whatever the context is. He's a fringe NFL QB already, they will be a lot of GM's that don't want this type of attitude on their team.Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Per King 5, per Sirius interview.
The comparison was to Jamis Winston.
If I am Falk, or the team, I'm pissed.
The references about his picks are the reason if we lose are appropriate.
This post was edited on 4/7 9:55 PM by ttowncoug
Sure there is. If he was just speaking about the QBs role in the air raid, then it's a fairly innocuous comment.Originally posted by CougPatrol:
There's not a lot of context needed. No matter how he said it or what prompted it, the quote is awfully arrogant.Originally posted by wazzubruce:
Yeah, before everyone throws Connor under the bus.... let's at least examine the context of this comment.
In that example, yes.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
You don't see the difference context can make?
Well, I actually asked Serius XM what the quote was in reference to (novel concept, huh?).Originally posted by CougPatrol:
In that example, yes.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
You don't see the difference context can make?
In this case, no.
"If Jameis Winston didn't play well, FSU could still win a game. If I didn't play well we would lose by 30".
Not much context needed.
What do you mean, as I wanted? Have I ever once criticized Halliday? How many threads have I defended him against the venom spewed by ElComm?Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
So, there you go. I don't think it's as inflammatory as you wanted.
Just that you were pretty quick to call it "bush league" and "arrogant" without even wanting to consider the context.Originally posted by CougPatrol:
What do you mean, as I wanted? Have I ever once criticized Halliday? How many threads have I defended him against the venom spewed by ElComm?Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
So, there you go. I don't think it's as inflammatory as you wanted.
It was stupid thing for him to say. It sounded like something Ryan Leaf would have said, and I'm sure that hasn't been lost by the media and the NFL scouts.
How in the world can that quote be taken as good by anyone associated with our program? It was an arrogant thing to say, regardless of the context.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
Just that you were pretty quick to call it "bush league" and "arrogant" without even wanting to consider the context.
Ok. I can see there's no changing your mind and I don't really feel like restating my point several times.Originally posted by CougPatrol:
How in the world can that quote be taken as good by anyone associated with our program? It was an arrogant thing to say, regardless of the context.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
Just that you were pretty quick to call it "bush league" and "arrogant" without even wanting to consider the context.
Regardless of the context, his wording was very poor. Even if the question was about a young team and a tough schedule, the way he answered made him appear to be elevating himself.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
Ok. I can see there's no changing your mind and I don't really feel like restating my point several times.
I can understand the outrage over the "we'd lose by 30" comment, but I fail to see the problem with his comment about being drafted higher if not for injury. What exactly is wrong with that?Originally posted by ElComanche:
It is old news. The other comment recently attributed to the temper throwing brat is "if i had not been ijured,i would have been the third or fourth QB taken in the draft". His statements are as arrogant and laughable as they come, and basically slams the other players,coaches and the program in it' s entirety. It is noteworthy to hear Falk say "it is and entire different feeling out here now".CH was unpopular with his teammates. I still cannot figure out why Leach stuck with him. Leach was just seemingly fumbling around in a fugue like state the last few years in regards to CH. I feel that his program suffered from his choice of leadership imposed. But he was the head coach and he made the decisions and reaped the benefits of his choices. CH was a spoiled tantrum throwing brat which leach mistook for a burning competitive desire.It was all about CH to the kid.The fresh air surrounding the practices are noteworthy as other players do not have to stick with the script and praise someone who was not worthy of the leadership role he was anointed with.One has to watch one's words as a football field is not exactly a free speech environment.Hopefully sports boards allow a little more expression of opinion
CH may not get drafted in the seventh round but it will not be due to injury. I still remember one pro scout whose notes on CH stated " tends to panic". One may say that if he makes it to a NFL practice field that he" may get scrunched". Blaze away but his immobility,lack of quickness and speed. combined with an arrogant attitude do set the man up for that. Pro football is a violent sport. My posts and thoughts on this may be unpopular because my opinions offend his fan's sensibilities.However, They are mine and it is supposed to be a free board with proper rules of decorum.Put up a bronze statue ,praise him to the high heavens but be thankful the program is moving on and will have better leadership and better QB's to lead the way.The experience lost is one which needed to be lost.
The virtual certainty that it's 100% incorrect, for starters.Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
I can understand the outrage over the "we'd lose by 30" comment, but I fail to see the problem with his comment about being drafted higher if not for injury. What exactly is wrong with that?
Like "lacking accountability"?Originally posted by Fab5Coug:
So what?
The guy is confident. I can think of a lot less appealing attributes a QB could have.