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Kent contract details...

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According to Jacob Thorpe of the Spokesman-Review, Ernie Kent will receive a five-year deal at $1.4 million per year, citing athletic director Bill Moos.

The contract is also "loaded with incentives" and has a $2 million buyout. Kent will have "about $650,000" for assistants according to Thorpe, and Moos will determine the rollover.


For reference, Ken Bone had an $850,000 salary and about $400,000 for assistants, according to the latest numbers.


This post was edited on 4/2 3:47 PM by Britton Ransford
 
Originally posted by Britton Ransford:

Originally posted by kougkurt:

How much do you think is in the "kitty" for his assistants?
He'll have $650,000 for assistants.
Not bad, Moos just committed $2M dollars to the basketball program. He's showing you he isn't afraid to spend money. This is a lot more than I ever thought we'd spend.
 
So much for all the nit-wit speculation that Moos doesn't care about basketball.
 
It is good to see a competent coach getting good resources to work with, I foresee a vast improvement on the floor also. There are several good jucos still available but Kent will have to move fast to land a couple of them.
 
Originally posted by Rich Lewis:
What does the "rollover" mean?
. If I understand it right, it means he's got a 5 year contract that rolls over every year if Moos decides to, meaning every year he will be on a 5 year term until he retires, moves on or is fired. And I think the buyout is fixed, independent of how many years are left on his deal.
 
Originally posted by chinookpirate:

makes you wonder why Moos wouldn't invest in assistants for Bone.
Wouldn't or couldn't? The Pac-12 TV money is still a work in progress. Perhaps Moos is more optimistic about the future revenue stream. That aside, your excitement and optimism over the coaching change takes my breath away (yes, a sarcasm alert for the guy who said he will unconditionally support the new coach whoever it might be).
 
Originally posted by chinookpirate:

makes you wonder why Moos wouldn't invest in assistants for Bone.
Name the assistants on staff during Bone's tenure that would not have been there if Bone had more money to invest in assistants.
 
I'm going to assume that nookie's point is this: Bone wouldn't have lost 29 of 36 conference games his last two seasons had Moos given him more money for assistant coaches ($650,000 for Kent; $400,000 for Bone). But this begs the question: what did Tony Bennett get for assistant coaches?


This post was edited on 4/3 2:40 PM by YakiCoug
 
Originally posted by YakiCoug:
I'm going to assume that nookie's point is this: Bone wouldn't have lost 29 of 36 conference games his last two seasons had Moos given him more money for assistant coaches ($650,000 for Kent; $400,000 for Bone). But this begs the question: what did Tony Bennett get for assistant coaches?



This post was edited on 4/3 2:40 PM by YakiCoug
My point is a simple one even for you, Yaki... and it's this: Had Moos charged another $250k per year on his WSU General Account Credit Card, perhaps Bone would have enjoyed a tier up in assistants that might have resulted in four more conference wins while Bone was keeping the seat warm till Moos got his own guy in there.
 
I agree. it appears Moos has launched his Basketball plan with his own guy without any time pressures. Bone could have easily kept the seat warm for another year. He was cheap. Good article in USA Today(i'd link it but I read the airport version on a plane) today about salaries.

This is good timing for Moos, Kent and WSU.
 
As I had written in another post, this was the year that Moos had to act. After next season, there are at least five scholarships that come available. Since there is an early signing period, the coach next season will be the one who signs new players. If Bone were keeping the seat warm for one year, it would set the next coach back years recruitingwise,
 
Originally posted by chinookpirate:

Originally posted by YakiCoug:
I'm going to assume that nookie's point is this: Bone wouldn't have lost 29 of 36 conference games his last two seasons had Moos given him more money for assistant coaches ($650,000 for Kent; $400,000 for Bone). But this begs the question: what did Tony Bennett get for assistant coaches?




This post was edited on 4/3 2:40 PM by YakiCoug
My point is a simple one even for you, Yaki... and it's this: Had Moos charged another $250k per year on his WSU General Account Credit Card, perhaps Bone would have enjoyed a tier up in assistants that might have resulted in four more conference wins while Bone was keeping the seat warm till Moos got his own guy in there.
I asked this below. Name the assistants on staff during Bone's tenure that would not have been there if Bone had more money to invest in assistants.
 
Originally posted by chinookpirate:
Originally posted by YakiCoug:
I'm going to assume that nookie's point is this: Bone wouldn't have lost 29 of 36 conference games his last two seasons had Moos given him more money for assistant coaches ($650,000 for Kent; $400,000 for Bone). But this begs the question: what did Tony Bennett get for assistant coaches?



This post was edited on 4/3 2:40 PM by YakiCoug
My point is a simple one even for you, Yaki... and it's this: Had Moos charged another $250k per year on his WSU General Account Credit Card, perhaps Bone would have enjoyed a tier up in assistants that might have resulted in four more conference wins while Bone was keeping the seat warm till Moos got his own guy in there.
So, my assumption was correct. You truly are making the lame argument that, at the very least, Bone would have won more games with more money for assistants. But you didn't answer the question, Sheldon: what did Tony Bennett get (as in pay) for assistant coaches?
You can remove your legs from Bone's torso any time now. Sniping and griping at Moos just makes you look bitter. Let's hear that unconditional support for the new coach now!
 
I get you're lazy skoolboi schtick, it's the same over and over and over again. Your diatribe aside, 4 more wins in three years would have matched Kent's last three at Oregon. Bone could have left his spot as the temporary placeholder without all your shrill overreaction and Bone hate mongering.

once again for the s-l-o-w-w-w-w crowd... I support this hire. To me, the relationship between Kent and Moos is a tremendous strength for WSU. I believe Kent's passion is genuine and will show results almost immediately.
 
Originally posted by chinookpirate:

I get you're lazy skoolboi schtick, it's the same over and over and over again. Your diatribe aside, 4 more wins in three years would have matched Kent's last three at Oregon. Bone could have left his spot as the temporary placeholder without all your shrill overreaction and Bone hate mongering.

once again for the s-l-o-w-w-w-w crowd... I support this hire. To me, the relationship between Kent and Moos is a tremendous strength for WSU. I believe Kent's passion is genuine and will show results almost immediately.
Ah, the cerebral response we've come to know and love from HWGC. Yes, Moos just blew a golden opportunity! - throwing another $250,000 down the Good Bone Rathole so Bone could hang on for one more year and bring in five more DII athletes. Of course, you clamored for a 5th year for Wulff, so ...
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Originally posted by YakiCoug:

Originally posted by chinookpirate:

I get you're lazy skoolboi schtick, it's the same over and over and over again. Your diatribe aside, 4 more wins in three years would have matched Kent's last three at Oregon. Bone could have left his spot as the temporary placeholder without all your shrill overreaction and Bone hate mongering.

once again for the s-l-o-w-w-w-w crowd... I support this hire. To me, the relationship between Kent and Moos is a tremendous strength for WSU. I believe Kent's passion is genuine and will show results almost immediately.
Ah, the cerebral response we've come to know and love from HWGC. Yes, Moos just blew a golden opportunity! - throwing another $250,000 down the Good Bone Rathole so Bone could hang on for one more year and bring in five more DII athletes. Of course, you clamored for a 5th year for Wulff, so ...
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yet again, morphing your insults when corrected with facts and truth.... same as it ever was.

is this really your best gradeskul schtik?
 
HE didn't need good assistants...he had his dad's name

Bone is gone, and he made some calculated errors, but lets not pretend that a mature Low, rochestie, Weaver, Baynes, Clark, was the same thing as handing over Casto who only played two years for Bone, Thompson ditto, Thames who got 18 minutes a game and that wasn't good enough, and Motem who hadn't played a minute to that point.

So in terms of scoring they had Capers who could average 6 a game, Thompson 16, Casto 10, Lodwick 6, Kop 8, Witherill, Hartune, Brown, Simons, aren't Pac 10 players. Where is the scoring coming from? That is 46 a game. There was only one spot for an offensive player and he recruited a dynamic offensive player in Reggie Moore. While it seems like a dig at TB, I wish he left a year earlier so whoever took over they had a solid year one with Pac 12 season to build upon. But I think it is grossly misleading unless you ran the exact same system as Tony Bennett he left enough in the cupboard to win a lot of Pac 12 games. A lot was 7 to 8 conference games.

What was especially damning for the next coach was the amount of scholies he had to clear room for. If Hartune, Witherill, Brown, Boeke, Sauls was Low, Weaver, Harmeling then the foundation would have been much the same as TB received the program as a head coach. Think of what a first year coach who didn't have Baynes or rocestie had to do..had to win with a rookie PG, a raw power forward who didn't add much offensively, Thompson good but streaky, capers was a defensive specialist then had to get rid of 5 or six players from one class. That is a tough task, and actually a recipe for disaster unless you have a prven Pac 12 coach like Kent running the show. Bone was a wrong fit for the program given what TB and what they ran.
 
Originally posted by YakiCoug:
Originally posted by chinookpirate:

I get you're lazy skoolboi schtick, it's the same over and over and over again. Your diatribe aside, 4 more wins in three years would have matched Kent's last three at Oregon. Bone could have left his spot as the temporary placeholder without all your shrill overreaction and Bone hate mongering.

once again for the s-l-o-w-w-w-w crowd... I support this hire. To me, the relationship between Kent and Moos is a tremendous strength for WSU. I believe Kent's passion is genuine and will show results almost immediately.
Ah, the cerebral response we've come to know and love from HWGC. Yes, Moos just blew a golden opportunity! - throwing another $250,000 down the Good Bone Rathole so Bone could hang on for one more year and bring in five more DII athletes. Of course, you clamored for a 5th year for Wulff, so ...
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For some reason, chinook appears to want to give our failed coaches "just one more year"...and it doesn't matter which sport it is.
 
What d3 athletes? Hunter?

Aden proved to be a Pac 10 score. As did Moore. Woolridge had a ride to Kansas. Ladd turned out to be a solid Pac 10 player. Lacy turned out to be the real deal as did Que and Ike.

I think the grade on Bone would be much clearer for me to what he could recruit and what he could do on a BBall court if he had his PG the last three years.
 
Re: What d3 athletes? Hunter?

Originally posted by CougEd:
Aden proved to be a Pac 10 score. As did Moore. Woolridge had a ride to Kansas. Ladd turned out to be a solid Pac 10 player. Lacy turned out to be the real deal as did Que and Ike.

I think the grade on Bone would be much clearer for me to what he could recruit and what he could do on a BBall court if he had his PG the last three years.
There has to be a 12-step program for you and nookie as you swat furiously away at 14-43 and its causes. Btw, Que and Ike have yet to prove anything. Not saying they won't improve, but you're wallowing in fantasy with that statement. You took this same approach with Wulff. Give. It. Up.
 
SDSU would not have made the Big Dance and beyond without Thames. Thames knew he had to move to get into a winning program and left despite whatever minutes he was given. Thames will be drafted and will prove to be the best pg who did not stay and left that he could improve his skills and play winning basketball. however it is time to move on and i am really more concerned about who Kent will recruit in the neaer future.
 
so, in other words, Bone was just one Xavier Thames player retention away from the Big Dance this year.

interesting...
 
Re: HE didn't need good assistants...he had his dad's name

Ed...Bone could have had a roster with Low, Rochestie, Baynes, Cowgill, and Weaver and would still have failed at WSU.

He just is in over his head at the PAC-12 level. It is as simple as that.
 
Yes...PSU just had so much

more talent than WSU...ask people in the profession what they think of his abilities. Ask Mike Leach will say coaching is coaching.
 
Re: Yes...PSU just had so much

Bone had his chance.

He showed beyond any doubt (at least to those who understand basketball), that he was in over his head at this level.

There is no debate on this.

It's okay though. He's a good guy and made a boatload of money in the process.

He will never be hired by a major program to be their head coach. That is further proof if you need it.

I wish him the best.
 
Look, it is all speculation at this point, and we have a coach who even a Bone supporter like me considers a great fit for WSU. Having said that, I think the "over his head" argument is the most over used in college sports when explaining the demise of a coach. Bone is a low key personality who does not project a lot of energy. I think that can be an advantage with many kids, particularly up and down the court types who need to be settled down. In our situation it became a major disadvantage. Bone going to the slow down half court offense was probably the worst thing he could have done when the kids were already lacking confidence.

At the end of the day I think Bones undoing was about not being true to his own philosophy offensively. I think he felt pressure to become the kind of defensive juggernaut we were under Tony, and tried to be something he wasn't.
 
Originally posted by avabob:

Look, it is all speculation at this point, and we have a coach who even a Bone supporter like me considers a great fit for WSU. Having said that, I think the "over his head" argument is the most over used in college sports when explaining the demise of a coach. Bone is a low key personality who does not project a lot of energy. I think that can be an advantage with many kids, particularly up and down the court types who need to be settled down. In our situation it became a major disadvantage. Bone going to the slow down half court offense was probably the worst thing he could have done when the kids were already lacking confidence.

At the end of the day I think Bones undoing was about not being true to his own philosophy offensively. I think he felt pressure to become the kind of defensive juggernaut we were under Tony, and tried to be something he wasn't.
I saw no evidence of him even trying. I did hear a lot of talk, but really no ability to be a defensive coach first.

Of course, he didn't show he could be an offensive coach either.
 
Re: Yes...PSU just had so much

My friend, playing in the Big-Sky versus the Pac-12 cannot be compared and you know that. What Mike Leach says regarding Ken Bone doesn't mean much to me.
Originally posted by CougEd:
more talent than WSU...ask people in the profession what they think of his abilities. Ask Mike Leach will say coaching is coaching.
 
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