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Sky isn’t falling

BleedCrimsonandGray
Waiting around is what got us Fcked last time and frankly I'm a little galled at how many Cougar fans are down on this deal. If you couldn't see the writing on the wall that the P2 were going to get fcked AGAIN, then I really can't help you.

This is the kid who waits and waits and waits to ask the prettiest girl to dance and never gets the balls to do so and ends up missing out, instead of asking any one of the dozen of pretty girls that want to dance and hell, might even play with their ding-dong.

This was not my #1 option for the conference, but these are good teams we've got coming in. They have good fan bases and good school support. Its now up to the conference to leverage that into a TV deal that will bring the level of the programs in line with the mid tier P4 schools.
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Hot off the press -Thoughts

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CougPatrol said:
Just heard that we offered UNLV, but they insisted on being a package deal with Nevada. We said no because that would drop the MWC below 8 teams.

If true, I'm glad that we took the high road and left the MWC intact.
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I'm glad that PAC said no to Nevada as a packaged deal, as Nevada is not good enough to Join PAC. UNLV is good enough to join PAC, but the PAC isn't going to take the bottom feeders, just so that the PAC can take a semi top team like UNLV.

I'm glad that didn't reduce MWC to below 8. That suggest that probably going to go after Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, Liberty(12-0(MAAC or Sun Belt), North Texas(Sun Belt or MAAC), Texas St(Sun Belt or MAAC), NDSU, as list of possible last 2 to join PAC.

MWC will probably try to get Memphis, Tulane, Liberty, James Madison, NDSU, South Dakotah St, Sac St, EWU, 1,2 from each of MAAC, Sun Belt, AAC, WAC, Big West, FCS, etc.

I do not think MWC will merge with AAC, and don't think the AAC would merge with MWC.

MWC might merge with either Sun Belt, MAAC, WAC, Big West.

If the AAC, Sun Belt, MAAC, WAC, Big West is raided by either MWC, AAC, PAC, then they would raid, MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, MAAC, WAC, Big West, FCS, etc.

NDSU, South Dakotah, Sac St, EWU, Montana, Idaho, are probably candidates to get called up from FCS, go to WAC, Big West, Sun Belt, MAAC, etc.

That's how I see G5 realignment, expansion, etc, shaking out.
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Hot off the press -Thoughts

Loyal Coug1
CougSinceBirth said:
Rumor is UNLV was offered but declined because they want Nevada-Reno to come and were told no.
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Good article below that mentions this in passing. Of course there was no hurdle for the NW traitors when they jumped....

sports.yahoo.com

After latest realignment moves, which other schools will the Pac-12 try to scoop up?

The league wants to be known as the “best of the rest” outside of the power four leagues. So which other schools fit the bill? What kind of ripple effect will this all have on college sports?
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
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Hot off the press -Thoughts

Loyal Coug1
COUGinNCW said:
There’s rumors a MWC school declined?

My guess is the 4 schools were targeted as best brands and were given the best terms. If more MWC come in they’ll have to pony up more $$ then the first 4.
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Your post makes no sense. The Pac-2 has to pony up the poaching fee amount of $10M+ per school per our scheduling agreement. Departing MW conference schools have to pay the MW $17M each. The only "pony up" that could possibly exist is if the Pac promised to pay some or all of the exit fees for the first 4, then would lower that promise to future MW schools. However, I have yet to hear anything about the Pac contributing to exit fees.
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Hot off the press -Thoughts

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CougPatrol said:
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that UNLV is playing the long game. It might be them who declined. Everything about future realignment is tied to market and market size. Las Vegas is the crown jewel of corporate greed.

At some point, one of the emerging super conferences is going to bring UNLV on board. Can you imagine Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, LSU, etc. playing in Las Vegas? I can. I know how those fan bases travel.
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There’s rumors a MWC school declined?

My guess is the 4 schools were targeted as best brands and were given the best terms. If more MWC come in they’ll have to pony up more $$ then the first 4.
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Sky isn’t falling

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I can’t be negative of this path. I understand wanting to be in a “power conference”, but the pressure was to either bid us down to 1/2 shares or in the case of the ACC, wait for implosion and then have WSU and OSU apply along with many of the schools we just picked up in a downward bidding war. This gave us the option to go in handcuffed as the bitch across the country or try and make something out of our unique situation.



Taking the four we did now secures a handful of the biggest markets available along with highly competitive programs with the option to chase others. This conference will be the group that plays the highest level of football that plays most/all games weekly in the western footprint. Now they have the freedom to add Stan and Cal if they return. UNLV if they decouple from UNR. They can also go secure UTSA with its blooming medical campus and growing football program. TX St is there as well. Tulane in Nola market.



Instead of waiting around we are now in the driver seat and can build something without being seen as the last opinion and littlest member. And whatever is made of this conference, it now exists as an option for a western pod for any conference trying to build or expand one. In the current landscape of relegation and future conference implosions, this is giving us the chance to build something decent as we see fit instead of being a whipping boy for an eastern conference. It’s not perfect but it’s better than taking it up the *ss a signing away our ability to be a full member 2000 miles away in many respects.
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New Debate thread?

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Loyal Coug1 said:
I resent and do not resemble your snide remark, which clearly insinuates that I am always drunk in the evenings. Fake News! I have the occasional evening beverage, I need it to wash down whoever's cat or dog I pulled off of the BBQ that night. I think I'll start a poll as to which dog breed tastes better. I lean toward Bassett Hounds personally. Plus they are easier to catch. :)
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I am shocked! I didn't realize you were Haitian.......
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9/11 Survivor Story

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Loyal Coug1 said:
OK, I went over to RCP. Not overly impressed, they are clearly heavily biased. Sorry to mention Breitbart. That said, almost all of your links in posts come from redstate or The Federalist. But no matter. in 55 days we can kiss and make up. :)
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Yesterdays article list........

Trump & Harris Trade Blows in Heated, High-Stakes Debate

Philip Wegmann, RCP
Harris Beat Trump, But There's No Guarantee It Will Matter

Stephen Collinson, CNN
Undecided Voters Not Convinced By Harris After Debate

Coster & Reid, Reuters
Shame on the ABC News Debate Moderators

Megyn Kelly, The Megyn Kelly Show
It Was Donald Trump's Night - In the Worst Possible Way

Jeff Greenfield, Politico
Debate Confirmed: Trump's Combative, Harris Is Dishonest

Dan McLaughlin, NY Post
Debate Shows Dems Made Right Move in Pushing Biden Out

Karen Tumulty, WaPo
Biggest Loser of Trump-Harris Debate Was ABC News

Liz Peek, FOX News
Harris Put Trump in His Place

Van Jones, CNN
Voters Not Allowed To See Harris' Economic Plan

Charles Hurt, Washington Times
Taylor Swift Endorsement Caps Harris' Great Night

Sara Pequeño, USA Today
New Polls Show Election as Close as Can Be

Tom Bevan, RealClearPolitics on SiriusXM
Trump in Better Shape at This Juncture Than 2016, 2020

Scott Jennings, L.A. Times
Black Men Again a Key Group of Voters as Race Tightens

Philip Lewis, HuffPost
What Happened to the Politically Conscious Black Athlete?

Jemele Hill, The Atlantic
Cantor Fitzgerald Bids Adieu to a 9/11 Survivor

Caroline Koster, Wall Street Journal
9/11 the Start of Battle Between Good & Evil That Still Rages

Beth Brelje, Federalist
Watch: Highlights From Presidential Debate | Full Debate

RealClearPolitics Afternoon Edition​

America Last Policies of Biden-Harris Invite Another 9/11

Chad Wolf, American Mind
9/11 Anniversary Is a Reminder Why Trump Cannot Win

Anthony Fisher, MSNBC
Why the Debate Was Not a Win for Harris

Kaylee White, Washington Examiner
Trump's Debate Meltdown Was Spectacular

Max Burns, MSNBC
ABC News Was Big Loser of the Trump-Harris Debate

Roger Kimball, The Spectator
The Battle for Skeptical Independents

John Halpin, Substack
Does Kamala Harris Have a Black Voter Problem?

RealClear Quick Take, X
The Problem Wasn't Moderators, It Was Trump's Big Mouth

Heather Parton, Salon
Americans Want a Leader, Not a Lecturer-in-Chief

BC Brutus, AMAC
Donald Trump Lost the Debate Because He's Too Online

Eric Levitz, Vox
Police Audio, Report Confirm Haitian Goose-Hunting in OH

Tristan Justice, Federalist
What September 11 Revealed

Jonathan Rosen, The Free Press

It looks to me that about 13 out of 28 articles linked are from MSM/left leaning sources. How does that equate to heavily biased? I only see 8 articles that are clearly right leaning sources, several that I don't know what they are.

It appears to me that you are blinded by TDS, so angry at Trump that you have lost all objectivity about anything that doesn't bash the Orange Man Bad.

Hmmmm, you didn't mean that RCP politics was heavily biased by meaning that they lean way left, did you? After all, 13 to 8 is pretty out of balance!
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Tastiest dog breed thread - poll coming

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Loyal Coug1 said:
Are you saying that this CNN (and MSN) report is fake news? Every credible news agency out there is debunking the cat eating stories.
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Not exactly.
If you’re truely interested,

Type “Springfield Ohio” into the X search box today to find discussion from OH Gov. , OH AG and many, many residents.

CNN and other Corporate news outlets have a dog 🐕 in the hunt
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New Debate thread?

Loyal Coug1
Coug90 said:
When loyal is spellchecking you after cocktail hour, you probably didn’t make it beyond CC.
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I resent and do not resemble your snide remark, which clearly insinuates that I am always drunk in the evenings. Fake News! I have the occasional evening beverage, I need it to wash down whoever's cat or dog I pulled off of the BBQ that night. I think I'll start a poll as to which dog breed tastes better. I lean toward Bassett Hounds personally. Plus they are easier to catch. :)
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9/11 Survivor Story

Loyal Coug1
Stretch 74 said:
You are incredibly wrong. The first one you accuse me of liking (Breitbart) is a site that I don't recall linking anything to, ever, and I don't think I have even visited it this calendar year. If I did, it was likely because it was from a story listed in realclearpolitics.com, which actually IS one of my top two political sites that I visit. The other top political site I do visit is townhall.com, and they have some very intelligent people with interesting takes on all things political. Are they conservative? Yes they are, but that isn't a crime. And let me point out that going to sites like that is necessary if you wish to find out the other side of a story- the MSM will ALL march in lockstep and they will be selling the narrative that comes directly from the DNC.

I will just say that RCP is the best site out there, as an aggregator they almost always present opposing viewpoints of an issue. Are you brave enough to actually go there and read both sides? I am.

Last note on my "favorite sites".......the only time I have actually been to Foxnews.com in several months is when I click on an interesting sounding story on RCP without noticing that it is from Fox. I hate their web site! And the same goes for the Federalist- I only go there from an interesting link on RCP.com.

BTW, RCP has good polling info, and Real Clear sections on several other subjects like Investigations, Policy, Markets, World, Defense, Energy, Health, etc. Sorry, but no Real Clear sections on Taylor Swift, Hollywood, The View, or the like.
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OK, I went over to RCP. Not overly impressed, they are clearly heavily biased. Sorry to mention Breitbart. That said, almost all of your links in posts come from redstate or The Federalist. But no matter. in 55 days we can kiss and make up. :)
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I wonder if we will truly be west coast only...or if we go east

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CougSinceBirth said:
You only go east with bigger schools, if the ACC implodes and you fold in an East Pod.

I'm sorry, but including the teams mentioned creates a MWC 2.0. There's nothing exciting about this.
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These schools were added for the potential media value, that's it. Fresno and SDSU will bring viewers.

I still wouldn't rule out WSU going to the ACC or Big-12 in the future either. The timing around this is related to the new schools and the timing of the exit fees. (Have to act now).
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It’s official

CougSinceBirth
CougPatrol said:
If we could beg Stanford and Cal back, even as football only members and/or to help us broker a wider reaching merger with the WCC for the Olympic sports, I would think that Apple would be interested to some degree, as would CW. 7:00PM PST viewing windows capture good ratings.
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I think Stanford and Cal have a better chance of joining the BIG in a PAC8 division before coming back to this MWC 2.0. Cal maaaybeee would return to help cut travel, but Stanford would rather go independent.
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