If all the players in CFB or the PAC12 even, have gotten their vaccines as per mandates issued by each school, then what's the point of testing if being vaccinated means being protected from the Virus (via the Overlords of the CDC and Fauci etc). I mean, weren't we told that if we got vaccinated we could return to normal? Or is that just a big fat lie? The many of which has been spouted during all this. Based on what is happening now with areas like LA County, I see this only getting worse and games getting cancelled because players will be testing positive as was the case with those do-good state Dems from TX. I guess they just want to kill off as many grandmas as they can?
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My suspicion is the efficacy of the vaccines in real life is less than 95 percent rates from the lab studies. You may gasp in shock if you wish. There are enough Olympians that some were/are likely to test positive. I was surprised that so many on the TX House Dems on the flight got sick. I have not heard of any of the cases (whether Olympians or Texans) being severe.
It's way past time to live with the virus.
You mean now that the election is over and Ivermectin has been shown to be an effective treatment?
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Glad some people are waking up. The virus is real sure, but they lied to you about its origins and how deadly it was/is. Also, the vaccine shouldn't be considered a vaccine, it's gene therapy and has more deaths than any of the other vaccines out there combined.
Of all the cases in LA this week that the patient went to the hospital , what percent of those cases were not vaccinated ?
To be honest at this point I kinda don’t care. If WSU needs to get shut down because there is an outbreak so be it. If they limit seating at football games I guess I am going to be ok with it. If people die from 18 to 88 I am getting ok with that too. Thin the herd at this point .
For me … right now it is more an economic and economy decision . If stuff slows down , stock market takes a breather so be it. If people get laid off then so be it.
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I'll have a better idea in the next week what at least one case study looks like. My niece, who is vaccinated, attended a dance camp in Mississippi with over 200 college students in attendance with a very low percentage of vaccinated individuals. The delta variant ravaged the camp last week with over 30% of the attendees testing positive at last report and the number still climbing quickly at that point. She tested positive today after she started feeling a little congested and losing her sense of smell.
So, being vaccinated is no protection if someone has serious exposure to the virus from numerous people over the course of several days. We'll see if she stays with mild symptoms or not.
So, being vaccinated is no protection if someone has serious exposure to the virus from numerous people over the course of several days. We'll see if she stays with mild symptoms or not.
I would say people who actually work in the field of medicine, vaccines, biotech's etc say have a different view than you. Do you mind me asking where did you study to get your doctorate? It sounds like you have done a great deal of studying on the subject?
I will say it is interesting....it seems like the age of people seen in the hospitals from what I have read is starting to come down. I get it, get rid of all the old people. What have they done lately.
But if the data about hospitalizations is true, and the patients are getting younger, what is the age and number of cases that need to be scene where this is just not the flu?
I also wonder since people are more vaccine aware, if they will resist having their children get all the other vaccines that were pumped into my kids arm at a very young age.
Is there any data ? A study ? I know regeneron put together a good cocktail for Chris Christie and President Trump. Of it wasn’t for regeneron they probably wouldn’t be here .
I can give you an update. First, in LA a month ago we had about 200 new cases reported per day. Last week it averaged almost 1,500. That is why indoor masks are back in the picture. With regard to vaccine efficiency: various vaccines are lab tested under different conditions, so it is not a "one size fits all" sort of efficiency number. But it is probably fair to say that most of the vaccines used in the US are somewhere in the low 90's % in the real world. If you pick 92% as an example, that means that 8 out of 100 will still get the disease when sufficiently exposed, and that is roughly what is estimated to be happening in LA. Those folks (commonly referred to as "break through" cases) seldom end up in the hospital (a few end up there, particularly if other conditions are present, but most don't end up hospitalized). So from the standpoint of the vaccine preventing severe symptoms, the vaccines are very, very effective. What is unknown at this point is whether a vaccinated person who gets sick is actually contagious to others. The assumption is that they are contagious, but are they just as contagious as anyone else? I don't know, and I probably follow this as closely as anybody on this board. I don't think we know the answer to that yet.
The point of the masks in LA is that we still have roughly 30% of the adults (and more of the younger ages) who have neither had covid nor have been vaccinated. And the current variant is much more contagious than the original variety. What does that mean in practical terms? It means that a much smaller dose of the variant will make someone sick; that is why and how it is so contagious. Dosage size has always been a big deal in terms of whether someone got the disease or not, and with the more contagious variants (including the one we have right now), small dosages lead to infection. Hence wearing masks...not just because of the breakthrough cases, but also because so many of the un-vaxxed here lie by omission by going maskless in environments when only the vaxxed are supposed to be unmasked. Hence, the only way to limit case increases is to limit transmission, and with enough unvaxxed people and a super contagious variant, masks are one of the few options available.
This will all solve itself eventually, because with the current variant, those who are unvaxxed will eventually get covid. I'm seeing that already among those who made an issue of being worried about vaccine side effects...and now they have to deal with the very real possibilities that come with actually having the disease, because their entire family is now sick. I know 2 families in that boat right now.
Best guess here is that we will probably be indoor masked for at least a month. The puzzle piece that nobody knows is what % of the homeless population has had covid. Maybe a lot, but maybe few. You could make a case either way due to a combination of social isolation & hygiene issues. If they are on the lower side, the more contagious variant will probably spread pretty quickly, and nobody here knows what that will look like a month from now. If they have mostly had covid by now, then they are irrelevant to this discussion. Depending upon how you define homelessness, we probably have somewhere between 50-100K in LA County alone. In a month we'll know a lot more about how that has shaken out.
The point of the masks in LA is that we still have roughly 30% of the adults (and more of the younger ages) who have neither had covid nor have been vaccinated. And the current variant is much more contagious than the original variety. What does that mean in practical terms? It means that a much smaller dose of the variant will make someone sick; that is why and how it is so contagious. Dosage size has always been a big deal in terms of whether someone got the disease or not, and with the more contagious variants (including the one we have right now), small dosages lead to infection. Hence wearing masks...not just because of the breakthrough cases, but also because so many of the un-vaxxed here lie by omission by going maskless in environments when only the vaxxed are supposed to be unmasked. Hence, the only way to limit case increases is to limit transmission, and with enough unvaxxed people and a super contagious variant, masks are one of the few options available.
This will all solve itself eventually, because with the current variant, those who are unvaxxed will eventually get covid. I'm seeing that already among those who made an issue of being worried about vaccine side effects...and now they have to deal with the very real possibilities that come with actually having the disease, because their entire family is now sick. I know 2 families in that boat right now.
Best guess here is that we will probably be indoor masked for at least a month. The puzzle piece that nobody knows is what % of the homeless population has had covid. Maybe a lot, but maybe few. You could make a case either way due to a combination of social isolation & hygiene issues. If they are on the lower side, the more contagious variant will probably spread pretty quickly, and nobody here knows what that will look like a month from now. If they have mostly had covid by now, then they are irrelevant to this discussion. Depending upon how you define homelessness, we probably have somewhere between 50-100K in LA County alone. In a month we'll know a lot more about how that has shaken out.
Um, the data shows that Christie and Trump probably would still be here without Regeneron.
Best wishes for your daughter, Flat! Hope she comes through with flying colors!
Not what people in the “biz” have told me . The President and Christie are the ones covid takes out . Those two survived . How many people kick once they have gone on a ventilator ?
That is a statistic I am interested in as it drives my personal choices. Do you have a linkable, credible source? Not trying to bait you here. I’m truly interested in where you got that.
We keep getting lied to about this virus. What they (govt) want is to control people and keep their power.
It is shocking to me how scared people are to live their lives. If and when I get this virus it is going to be unpleasant for several days, but it isn't something to fear.
To lock down an entire economy is madness and we better get used to this virus being with us for many years in some form. Australia is going batshit crazy over a few cases popping up. Amazing.
Get busy living or get busy dying. Live your life and stop living in fear.
You didn't read any report.
sorry … posted from phone … it was reported via an article I read that 99% of hospitalizations in LA were not vaccinated. Do you dispute that ? Do you have other information that I can read that says that reported information is incorrect? Seems like now the hospitals are in on it .
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