31per cent shooting, Bambang gueye and Rodman combine for 3 points? Pathetic
Again this team stinks
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The coaching is non existent. Rice boxed Smith’s ears in the second half
Smith needs to download Windows 11 and update his Office365/Excel. The algorithms for Nerdball have broken links in the formulas.
Sick of three man weave, ball screen, jack up a three point brick. Three guys literally standing around for the entirety of the shot clock. No bueno.
Smith needs to download Windows 11 and update his Office365/Excel. The algorithms for Nerdball have broken links in the formulas.
Sick of three man weave, ball screen, jack up a three point brick. Three guys literally standing around for the entirety of the shot clock. No bueno.
If they don’t make3’s, they don’t have an offense. They need more movement, and have to work the ball inside, better passing will lead to a better offense. Just frustrating to watch
Still waiting to see how this season unfold, but so far a disappointment. Maybe 8th in conference is where they land. Still think there is a shot at some sort of post season if we see this group of athletes become more of a team and the coaching improves. Even though the offense stinks the defense is what i have been most concerned with. Once a team find a chink in the armor they continue to expose it and we don't seem to have an answer.
Our continued second half destruction is what kills me the most. That is a coaching problem.
Observer's points are right up there as well.
Observer's points are right up there as well.
We haven't been much of a team all season. Just parts trying to make plays beyond ability for the most part. There's enough talent but there doesn't seem to be much concept of team and that's never taken us too far. Way out over our skis.
My biggest issue is there's no offensive system. It's not Ernie Kent bad but it's bad. Three man dribble hand off/ball screen is something we've seen from Gonzaga for the last five years. Cougs have that down.
It's after getting into the 'flow' that is lacking. There is NO movement away from the ball. None. They stand. And stand some more. And then stand again. Playing 2 on 5 is just bad basketball. BSU sat in help position on both wings and effectively cut off penetration. Other teams know WSU simply won't kick it to the wings. They also know the wings won't move.
This needs to get cleaned up and fast. if Ken Bone can put in an entirely new offense in two days (when Klay was suspended against UCLA), you'd think these guys could come up with something a little more imaginative.
I don't think this team stinks. I think the coaching stinks and is making the players stinky, too.
It's after getting into the 'flow' that is lacking. There is NO movement away from the ball. None. They stand. And stand some more. And then stand again. Playing 2 on 5 is just bad basketball. BSU sat in help position on both wings and effectively cut off penetration. Other teams know WSU simply won't kick it to the wings. They also know the wings won't move.
This needs to get cleaned up and fast. if Ken Bone can put in an entirely new offense in two days (when Klay was suspended against UCLA), you'd think these guys could come up with something a little more imaginative.
I don't think this team stinks. I think the coaching stinks and is making the players stinky, too.
Part of the problem on offense is that they don't get it inside enough, but when they do the bigs can't finish. Defensively teams have figured out they can isolate a player like Kigab on one side of the court and let him go one-on-on and back it in for a layup or a foul or both. If they don't figure out how to defend that with a double team we're going to see a lot more of it. Reminds me of the Lakers in the 60's and 70's when they'd isolate West on one side of the court and let him put the defender in the pop-corn machine. They won a ton of games doing that.
Smith is the same age as Ernie was when Ernie won got to his last Elite 8 and began his swift decline into being a hack.
Smith is the same age as Bone was at WSU. Bone's success came at Seattle Pacific which was the big city school plus SPU no longer had Dean Nicholson to contend with. Btw-he also "benched" Klay vs one of the Arizona schools for misplacing his I-phone and being late to the bus. Last place finish his first year with Tony's players
People fall in love with middle age white coaches who can talk hoops - brings back throw back memories. Ditto white running backs on the football side.
Smith's record is like Rolo's prior to WSU. Some success but when you look closer who'd he really beat?
20 loss seasons is what get hoop coaches at WSU whacked, probably not anything like that foreseeable down the line.
But hopefully the talk of "Eastern is a tournament team" "South Dakota State is a tournament team" "New Mexico State is a tournament team" "Boise State is a tournament team" "We have the flu" "Player X has bad body language" can stop.
This season, I've gone from bullish on Smith to "doubtful" he is capable of winning at this level.
There has to be some deep soul searching on this disaster of an offense. It is really offensive. Too much dribbling. Too little off ball movement. Underutilized bigs. Bad shot selection from the aforementioned issues with the resultant running the shot clock down. The top guard weave doesn't do anything more than just running down the shot clock for us, right?
Who can really create their own shot if needed? Flowers, AJ (kind of), Roberts sometimes, ...Williams (but he often ends with a turnover)....
Am I being unfair in my assessment?
Also, the offense is so bad that guys shouldn't have to create their own shot off the dribble so much.
Who are the five guys you want on the floor the most? Up until now in declining order of minutes played, it has been...
Flowers
Williams
Roberts
Guaye
Rodman
Bamba
Abogidi
AJ
Jackson
I'd like to see more Rodman and less Williams. More Jackson and less Guaye. More AJ too.
I'm not sure Smith is as bad as some is making him out to be. Initially the talk around him was he was a good coach, but could he recruit. We find out he is a decent recruiter, but now question can he coach. I think Smith and the players have all been over hyped and we are seeing as them as they are. If we don't see much improvement this year and next is a repeat then I will fall into the sky is falling camp.
If all we see is dribble hand off/high ball screen/stand around in the next game, that tells me he is as stubborn as Leach without the system to back it up.
There needs to be some serious adjustments in the offense. Not gonna win games in the 50’s unless your name is Dick or Tony.
