Another commit from WA

[SDCoug]

how about provide some links? they have to be out there, right?

Links aren’t required when you are a self proclaimed authority. It is implied that the sources are real.

 

[mikalalas]

Leach didn't make a definitive statement like that. He was not opposed to recruiting Washington players, he just more or less said he wasn't going to waste his time, energy, and money recruiting players that were never going to commit to WSU anyway. Tony Bennett said the same thing, he just said it tactfully, so nobody remembers.

Leach also recruited, got about 1,2,3,4 WA kids, recruits, he Leach just didnt recruit, take, get any of Ford's 1.5 star whitworth kids.

Also Leach recruited tried to get 1 of Tracy Ford's 3.5 star recruits, and Tracy, Sent the kid somewhere else.

So Tracy's FALSE ACCUSATION, SHIITING ON LEACH, WSU was BS.

So when both Leach and Rolo put Tracy to the PUT UP OR SHUT UP test, recruited Tracy's 3.5 stars HARD, Tracy FAILED, sent them elsewhere, those showing that Tracy only wants WSU to get his 1.5 star recruits, so that he can BRAG, MAKE MONEY, and doesnt want WSU to get his 3.5 star kids, and wants his 3.5 star kids to goto UW instead, in order to BRAG AND MAKE MORE MONEY MORE.

 

[CougEd]

Advocating for your kids is one thing, and a Ok thing to do. And there is a wrong way and a right way to do that.

The right way is asking, encouraging others to take your kids, telling why the kids should be taken, etc.

The Wrong way is SHIITING on Colleges, coaches that not taking your kids.

The wrong way is FALSELY ACCUSING, LYING, annd FALSELY saying that a college, program isnt taking any of the home state's kids, when they have taken home state kids, just not taken their kids because they were not P5 kids.

The wrong way is turning parents, teachers, coaches, Politicians against the college, coach

The right way is asking the coach why he isnt taking his particular kids. Asking what he and his kids have to be, do to be taken. Asking if his 1.5 star, etc, kids, can walk on, earn scholly's.

Also its not like WSU, Leach, kicked his kids to the curb with no options. Whitworth College, EWU, CWU, University of Idaho, Univ of Montana, Montana St, and many such other places would give scholly's to his 1.5 star kids, give them a good education.

Advocating for your 1.5 star kids appropiatly is ACCEPTING when colleges, coaches dont take your 1.5 star kids, because they are not P5 kids, and then advocating that Whitworth, EWU, etc, offer, give your kids a scholly and a awesome education.

But the TRUTH is, he doesnt care that his 1.5 star kids are getting athletic scholly's and amazing education from some good Big Sky colleges, like EWU.

No All Tracy Ford Cares about is getting his 1.5 star non mountain west, non P5, non Pac 12, Whitworth D3 level kids to WSU, because WSU is the only P5 school that might take them(UW, etc, wont), and not to EWU, etc, where they belong, will get a awesome opportunity there, so that he can BRAG, BUILD HIS REPUTATION of himself, his business, of how he gets his kids big time schollys to big time P5, Pac 12 schools, like WSU, so that he will MAKE MORE MONEY.

Thats the only thing he cares about is THE MONEY, AND HIS REPUTATION.

He is not GENUINELY, SINCERELY advocating for his kids, because he supposedly CARES avmbout the kids.

And even if he were to be advocating for the kids, he still does it the WRONG WAY, and still SHIITS ON WSU, when his kids dont get taken

And he is a SLEAZY DOUCHEBAG.

And I explained why above.

Really Ed, you and others need to work on reading comprehension, and stop being EDIOTS and STOP DEFENDING THE SLEAZY DOUCHEBAGE TRACY FORD.

I could argue 90% of aau and trainers are Douche bags . Also seems more like bad business on fords behalf than anything else .

And some clients will argue they want someone to “trash” a program on their behalf if the school doesn’t even take a peek .

 

[Coug4life34]

Mr. Ford is part of the cabal that thinks WSU is the safe school for every kid that doesn't get an offer from uw, regardless of whether that kid is a Pac-12 caliber athlete or not.

I can certainly see that. I just think it’s the coaches job to decipher who fits… If I am an AAU coach or trainer, I am certainly pushing my athletes “within reason” to colleges I V think they may be able to make.. Even if it’s the last spot on the roster. Again my 2 cents.. Better relationship = better players pushed your way.

 

[Coug1990]

I can certainly see that. I just think it’s the coaches job to decipher who fits… If I am an AAU coach or trainer, I am certainly pushing my athletes “within reason” to colleges I V think they may be able to make.. Even if it’s the last spot on the roster. Again my 2 cents.. Better relationship = better players pushed your way.

I agree, the AAU coach or trainer should be advocates for their athletes. Where Ford went over the line was to criticize a school and coach for not taking his players.

 

[425cougfan]

1.5-star kids don't exist. Mik is referring to 2-star recruits who are given that rating due to the P5 offer but who aren't really P5 recruits.

 

[mikalalas]

I can certainly see that. I just think it’s the coaches job to decipher who fits… If I am an AAU coach or trainer, I am certainly pushing my athletes “within reason” to colleges I V think they may be able to make.. Even if it’s the last spot on the roster. Again my 2 cents.. Better relationship = better players pushed your way.

I dont think for a second, that you would push a Whitworth D3 kid of yours to a WSU, etc.

And if a P5 college, program, coach didnt take your Whitworth D3 player, and instead either took a 3 star from the same state as your Whitworth D3 player, or if they instead got 3.5 stars from So Cal, or Texas, that you would then SHIIT ON THAT COLLEGE, COACH for not taking your Whitworth D3 player, and taking a 3.25 star somewhere else instead.

Even if you LOST MONEY because you didnt get your Whitworth D3 player to a P5 College, you wouldnt do that. WHY? Because its wrong, dirty, sleazy, bad, dishonest, lying, etc, and you know that.

And if you did do that, ypu know that you would then have no reasonable expectation to have the College you SHIITED ON, to do business with you, so that you could then SHIIT on them some more in the future.

 

[mikalalas]

I agree, the AAU coach or trainer should be advocates for their athletes. Where Ford went over the line was to criticize a school and coach for not taking his players.

Another person who GETS IT.

 

[WSUCOUG12345]

I agree, the AAU coach or trainer should be advocates for their athletes. Where Ford went over the line was to criticize a school and coach for not taking his players.

Agree with this. It's Ford's job to promote his guys and try to market them to the best schools, the same way it is for any high school coach.

But Ford openly critiquing Leach combined with his UW fanboy crap is where the problems arise. And especially when it's lower-end, borderline P5 type of players. It ain't like Ford was trying to send us Myles Jack and Budda Baker and Leach said no lol. He was trying to get his MW/Big Sky players to WSU, which can probably be said about a ton of coaches in this area. But they aren't tweeting at a HC when they don;t.

 

[sellas]

This place blows

 

[CougEd]

There is advocating…. then there is influencing… if the only kids this “trainer” pushes towards WSU arent Pac 12 kids, who does that help??? And when WSU passes on the kids he pushes…. what happens then??? Do you now have a “trainer” talking shit about WSU??? That isnt helpful.

For this “trainer” to make $ he needs the credibility of P5 coaches coming to him asking about kids. If he doesnt have that, he is out of business. So he manufactures a way to get in between coaches and players and use his influence to help sway decisions. No thanks.

AAU basketball is corrupt. Kids are bought and paid for. I would prefer to see that NOT happen in the Pac 12.

Remember Chip Kelly at Oregon getting into trouble with the NCAA over his relationship with some random guy in Texas that pushed kids to UO???? That’s why I would advise WSU coaches to walk away from “trainers” like this.

Well you are looking at it backwards. say Ford bashed one of his potential clients, in long term doesn’t that affect who he can send his clients to ? And if he is telling kids they are WSU or someone of that ilk worthy and they end up at eastern, doesn’t that also affect his business model. He can only blame leach so long or WSU so long for he not having D1 kids, then most parents see through that . Or begin to see through it .

So it is a bad business strategy on his behalf . The point is there isn’t a ton of honor or nobility in that trade and calling him sleazy … they are all sleazy we just know his name .

 

[CougEd]

I agree, the AAU coach or trainer should be advocates for their athletes. Where Ford went over the line was to criticize a school and coach for not taking his players.

Only line he crossed is “what is good business line”. Do I like the fact he “trashed” Mike Leach if that is what he did? Nope. But I will tell you SHORT TERM his clientele loved it . But it does have long term ramifications for him and his future clientele

 

[CougEd]

This place blows

I give your post 1.33 to 3.95 stars but probably in the middle at 3.66 stars .

 

[FnuLnu]

Seriously …. Isn’t part of Fords job to advocate for his clients , whether they are 1.33 stars or 1.875 stars? These trainers are in many ways taking over what good high school coaches use to do

Ford's job at least FSP now includes select baseball teams as young as 9u and 10u in Bellevue.

 

[Coug4life34]

I dont think for a second, that you would push a Whitworth D3 kid of yours to a WSU, etc.

And if a P5 college, program, coach didnt take your Whitworth D3 player, and instead either took a 3 star from the same state as your Whitworth D3 player, or if they instead got 3.5 stars from So Cal, or Texas, that you would then SHIIT ON THAT COLLEGE, COACH for not taking your Whitworth D3 player, and taking a 3.25 star somewhere else instead.

Even if you LOST MONEY because you didnt get your Whitworth D3 player to a P5 College, you wouldnt do that. WHY? Because its wrong, dirty, sleazy, bad, dishonest, lying, etc, and you know that.

And if you did do that, ypu know that you would then have no reasonable expectation to have the College you SHIITED ON, to do business with you, so that you could then SHIIT on them some more in the future.

Ummm.. yes I would absolutely push my Whitworth D3 kid to WSU if they would take him. My job is to help him get a scholarship. The coaches at WSU determine whether it’s at WSU or not. Maybe he is a D3 kid who can knock down jumpers…. I have news for you. There are a shit ton of D3 kids on D1 rosters. Just like there are a lot of D1 kids on D3 rosters. Again, a coach should have an Eye for talent and where a kid fits in their system… Not listening to what the prognosticator handing out half stars thinks….

I dont think for a second, that you would push a Whitworth D3 kid of yours to a WSU, etc.

And if a P5 college, program, coach didnt take your Whitworth D3 player, and instead either took a 3 star from the same state as your Whitworth D3 player, or if they instead got 3.5 stars from So Cal, or Texas, that you would then SHIIT ON THAT COLLEGE, COACH for not taking your Whitworth D3 player, and taking a 3.25 star somewhere else instead.

Even if you LOST MONEY because you didnt get your Whitworth D3 player to a P5 College, you wouldnt do that. WHY? Because its wrong, dirty, sleazy, bad, dishonest, lying, etc, and you know that.

And if you did do that, ypu know that you would then have no reasonable expectation to have the College you SHIITED ON, to do business with you, so that you could then SHIIT on them some more in the future.

I’m not sure what you mean by shit on? I would not be in the business of bad mouthing anyone if that answers your question. Advocate, yes.. Bad mouth others no.

 

[Coug1990]

Ummm.. yes I would absolutely push my Whitworth D3 kid to WSU if they would take him. My job is to help him get a scholarship. The coaches at WSU determine whether it’s at WSU or not. Maybe he is a D3 kid who can knock down jumpers…. I have news for you. There are a shit ton of D3 kids on D1 rosters. Just like there are a lot of D1 kids on D3 rosters. Again, a coach should have an Eye for talent and where a kid fits in their system… Not listening to what the prognosticator handing out half stars thinks….

I’m not sure what you mean by shit on? I would not be in the business of bad mouthing anyone if that answers your question. Advocate, yes.. Bad mouth others no.

I am not sure I agree that pushing D3 kids to WSU is good for his business. If WSU accepts those players and they continually bust, then I think WSU would stop accepting those players. If I go to a restaurant and the food is terrible the first time I go, and then the second time I go, then I am finding somewhere else to eat.

It only works if Ford sends legitimate D1 players toward WSU. Is anyone else, besides me, hungry all of a sudden?