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Washington State men’s prep for Iowa State puts ball security at premium​

Greg Woods
March 22, 2024 at 4:31 pm Updated March 22, 2024 at 4:31 pm
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OMAHA, Neb. — For as quick as Isaac Jones is, for his nimble footwork and his springy spin moves, Washington State’s star forward prefers to play slow. He would rather take his time in the post, back his guy down, maybe grab his own miss and stick it back.

“I like playing slow,” Jones said. “I play at my own pace, and I play it slow, and I like to see the floor. Especially since I get doubled a lot, I think playing slow is good because I can see the floor, scan, make a skip pass and get open shots off it. I think that’s what’s important about playing slow — not being sped up by other teams.”

As the seventh-seeded Washington State men prepare for second-seeded Iowa State on Saturday, just the program’s fourth appearance in the NCAA tournament round of 32, the Cougars will face that exact challenge. The Cyclones don’t just try to speed up opponents. They try to disorient them.

Iowa State, champions of last week’s Big 12 tournament, are all about defense. A physical group, the Cyclones rank second nationally in both defensive efficiency and turnover percentage, and they’re third nationally in steal percentage, nabbing take-aways on 15% of their defensive possessions. They haven’t allowed more than 65 points since mid-February — in a loss to one-seed Houston.

The Cyclones, who cruised past South Dakota State in Thursday’s opening round, take ball pressure to an extreme. They force turnovers on more than a quarter of their defensive trips, second in the country. Center Robert Jones is 10th in the conference in block percentage and guard Tamin Lipsey is sixth nationally in steal percentage, snaring one 5.2% of the time.

In that sense, it might be the tallest task of the season for the Cougars, who clipped Drake in a 66-61 win Thursday. In that one, they played their third game in four tries under something of an offensive haze, shooting just 38% from the field and losing 13 turnovers. WSU made just 5 of 17 layups, a key reason why the club had trouble breaking out all night, and the Cougs posted an uncharacteristically low 22 points in the paint.

All of which prompts this question: Are the Cougs comfortable playing in lower-scoring environments? More important, can they win playing that style?

WSU might not have much of a choice against Iowa State, which will give the Cougs a defensive challenge they might not have seen yet this season. The good news for the Cougs is, even though they haven’t found many wins in these slower games, they found out Thursday they have it in them.

“Against some of those opponents, it’s been to our advantage,” WSU coach Kyle Smith said. “Like Colorado and Washington — we would rather wrestle with them than some of those speed teams. … Probably [against] Iowa State, it will be lower scoring if we take care of the ball. If we don’t, if they turn us over — which is what they’re good at — they’ll get up and down a little bit.”

In other words, WSU can win Saturday’s game by valuing possessions, by playing slower and eschewing turnovers. The Cougs are halfway there already. They’re one of the country’s slowest teams in terms of pace, ranking No. 313 nationally with a tempo rating of 65.0 according to KenPom. They’re at their best when they’re at their slowest, which is the kind of trend they want to replicate Saturday.

To do that, they will have to limit turnovers. They have not been doing that well of late. They gave away 13 turnovers against Drake, 19 last week against Colorado, 11 against Stanford and 12 against Washington. The last time WSU committed fewer than 10 turnovers came in a March 2 win over UCLA, when the Cougs committed just seven.

What’s been the key? Some of the Cougs turnovers have been entirely unforced. In Thursday’s game, wing Jaylen Wells tossed a pass into the second row of the crowd. In last week’s game against Colorado, guard Myles Rice committed back-to-back turnovers, including a behind-the-back pass that was easily intercepted. The latter became particularly consequential because it was a live-ball turnover — the kind the Cyclones feast on, turning them into buckets on the other end.

“We’ll take our shots at them, too, and our advantages,” Smith said. “But we’ll see. They really don’t run as much off transition, off misses, as they do just turn you over and get numbers.”

Another area where WSU has been losing turnovers: When Jones has gotten doubled in the post. At times, he hasn’t sensed the double team until it’s too late. He lost three turnovers against Drake, two against Colorado, none against Stanford and two apiece against Washington and UCLA.

It’s relevant because Iowa State will deploy that strategy, perhaps to an extreme, forcing Jones to get rid of it.

“It doesn’t matter. They double the post every possession,” Smith said. “Doesn’t matter who catches it. They really swarm you. They’re almost like a really athletic, quick Tony Bennett team where they double the post every time. It doesn’t matter who catches. It will be hard.

“We have to find different ways of getting the ball to different places, I think, and get on the glass a little bit. We have somewhat of an advantage there, I hope.”

Jakimovski dealing with shoulder pain​

WSU wing Andrej Jakimovski, who posted 9 points on two triples in Thursday’s game, continues to play through pain in his shooting-arm shoulder. The pain, he says, is a 7 or 8 on a scale from 1-10.

“When I got hit on a ball screen or something, I felt it for a couple minutes,” Jakimovski said. “I gotta play through it. It’s not ideal. I just wanna play free. I don’t wanna think about the shoulder. But I’ll give everything for the team to get the win, so I’m trying to be ready for tomorrow and to win the game.”

Jakimovski, who first suffered the injury Feb. 29 during WSU’s win over USC, has been playing with pain ever since. He’s also been playing with an arrangement of tape on the shoulder. Against Drake, he made 2 of 7 shots, 2 of 5 from deep and 3 of 6 from the free-throw line.

“[I feel it most] when I get hit,” Jakimovski said. “For example, like ball screens, I feel it a lot, or finishing, I feel it a lot because I can’t extend my arm fully. That was the worst. Trying to get it ready for tomorrow because we know it’s a huge game.”

Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
 
It will be a road game today and I expect this to be a very pro-Iowa State crowd. Funny thing about sports is that I talked to two different Iowa State fans at the hotel breakfast this morning. Neither was in town to watch the game and one didn't even know that they were playing in Omaha tonight.

Be ready to be very mad at the TV and the refs tonight. Iowa State is a physical, slappy kind of team and I expect our guys to get mugged all night long. They'll slap the sh!t out of our guys over and over with no fouls called and we'll get called for the most bullsh!t ticky tack calls. It's so bad that the Bill Self from KU was whining about the officials after they played ISU.

I hope we can pull this out but it's going to take an amazing shooting performance from outside the arc for us to win. If we don't hit at least 45% from the three point line...we are toast. Rice needs to hope that his slump buster last game worked.
 
It will be a road game today and I expect this to be a very pro-Iowa State crowd. Funny thing about sports is that I talked to two different Iowa State fans at the hotel breakfast this morning. Neither was in town to watch the game and one didn't even know that they were playing in Omaha tonight.

Be ready to be very mad at the TV and the refs tonight. Iowa State is a physical, slappy kind of team and I expect our guys to get mugged all night long. They'll slap the sh!t out of our guys over and over with no fouls called and we'll get called for the most bullsh!t ticky tack calls. It's so bad that the Bill Self from KU was whining about the officials after they played ISU.

I hope we can pull this out but it's going to take an amazing shooting performance from outside the arc for us to win. If we don't hit at least 45% from the three point line...we are toast. Rice needs to hope that his slump buster last game worked.
Geez doom and gloom! I’d like to think that the treatment the Cougs got down the stretch will have prepared them for this. Because I have a hard time believing the cyclones are going to be more physical than Colorado was. Jones can bang. Cluff and Chinyelu need to be ready to scrap. And I would expect Watts to get at least 20 minutes. He’s the kind of player you need in the backcourt with a scrappy physical team, he will give it right back.

We beat Arizona twice and have the second biggest team in the country. If the shots are falling we can beat anyone.
 
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Cougs gonna win.

Don’t know how, don’t care.

Don’t believe me? Then suck it.

Your Soul-less train leaves at 3:00. Plenty of time to wash your hair, and grab a latte before you board.
 
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Cougs gonna win.

Don’t know how, don’t care.

Don’t believe me? Then suck it.

Your Soul-less train leaves at 3:00. Plenty of time to wash your hair, and grab a latte before you board.
Hear me out. The Big 12 is overrated and over seeded. The pac12 is the opposite. We already knew the conference deployed a strategy of roughing up patsies in NC to get as many teams in the dance as possible. We are already seeing this play out. Kansas could have lost, BYU and TTU got thrashed. Meanwhile PAC 12 teams keep winning. This isn’t the mismatch everyone is thinking. These teams are well matched and it’s going to be a very competitive game.
 
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It will be a road game today and I expect this to be a very pro-Iowa State crowd. Funny thing about sports is that I talked to two different Iowa State fans at the hotel breakfast this morning. Neither was in town to watch the game and one didn't even know that they were playing in Omaha tonight.

Be ready to be very mad at the TV and the refs tonight. Iowa State is a physical, slappy kind of team and I expect our guys to get mugged all night long. They'll slap the sh!t out of our guys over and over with no fouls called and we'll get called for the most bullsh!t ticky tack calls. It's so bad that the Bill Self from KU was whining about the officials after they played ISU.

I hope we can pull this out but it's going to take an amazing shooting performance from outside the arc for us to win. If we don't hit at least 45% from the three point line...we are toast. Rice needs to hope that his slump buster last game worked.
or...

one of the boys could jump on a grenade, if you know what I mean. Plenty of corn-fed midwestern girls to choose from. Nothing like taking one for the team to break a slump.

for those out of the know, Chicago Cub Mark Grace:

On the definition of a "slumpbuster", after being pressed by host Jim Rome in a now-infamous 2003 interview on the television show "Rome is Burning" to clarify the baseball slang term (this is the "official" word-for-word transcript from the interview)...
"A slumpbuster is if a team's in a slump, or if you personally are in a slump, you gotta find the fatest, gnarliest, grossest chick and you just gotta lay the wood to her. And when you do that, you're just gonna have instant success. And it could also be called jumping on a grenade for the team.
 
Hear me out. The Big 12 is overrated and over seeded. The pac12 is the opposite. We already knew the conference deployed a strategy of roughing up patsies in NC to get as many teams in the dance as possible. We are already seeing this play out. Kansas could have lost, BYU and TTU got thrashed. Meanwhile PAC 12 teams keep winning. This isn’t the mismatch everyone is thinking. These teams are well matched and it’s going to be a very competitive game.
My God, this year might be the worst of the overratings.

Its kills me every year when people are all " OMG, ALL THE UPSETS" and I sit back and look at the circle-jerk rankings where the east teams play each other and bouy themselves up on SoS from doing so and then inevitably about 3/4 of the teams are just ok not even good.
 
The officials are going to job us.

Just want to get that on the record preemptively.
 
My God, this year might be the worst of the overratings.

Its kills me every year when people are all " OMG, ALL THE UPSETS" and I sit back and look at the circle-jerk rankings where the east teams play each other and bouy themselves up on SoS from doing so and then inevitably about 3/4 of the teams are just ok not even good.
I think this is fair. The games are only upsets because they are incorrectly seeded.
 
It will be a road game today and I expect this to be a very pro-Iowa State crowd. Funny thing about sports is that I talked to two different Iowa State fans at the hotel breakfast this morning. Neither was in town to watch the game and one didn't even know that they were playing in Omaha tonight.

Be ready to be very mad at the TV and the refs tonight. Iowa State is a physical, slappy kind of team and I expect our guys to get mugged all night long. They'll slap the sh!t out of our guys over and over with no fouls called and we'll get called for the most bullsh!t ticky tack calls. It's so bad that the Bill Self from KU was whining about the officials after they played ISU.

I hope we can pull this out but it's going to take an amazing shooting performance from outside the arc for us to win. If we don't hit at least 45% from the three point line...we are toast. Rice needs to hope that his slump buster last game worked.

Maybe WSU needs to play like a HOCKEY team. If the other team is going to ABSOLUTELY MUG WSU players, and NOT get the fouls called. And if WSU players, are going to get fouls called on them for the ticky tack fouls, then WSU players, like Cluff, Chinyelu, etc, should act like HOCKEY ENFORCERS, and every time they foul, should HAMMER, MUG the absolutely living shit out of the other team, even if it's DIRTY, even if doing so gets players hurt, etc. The foul is going to be called regardless no matter what, so might as well BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THE OTHER PLAYERS TO TEACH THEM THAT OPPOSING TEAM PLAYERS MUGGING WSU PLAYERS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED, AND THAT DOING SO WILL COST A PRICE, even if refs no call it.


Sometimes you have to break the arms, legs, give a black eye, a bloody nose, and a broken jaw to the BULLY.

If WSU doesn't do that, combined with if refs don't call the fouls, and call fouls one sided for the other team, then the other teams will continue, to BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF WSU PLAYERS, AND WILL EVENTUALLY SERIOUSLY INJURE WSU PLAYERS.


WSU players need to send a violent message to put a stop to that SHIT, even if it gets a player hurt, a flagrant foul, suspended, technical foul, etc.

Just put in Spencer Mohony, etc, for 45 seconds, as a HOCKEY LIKE ENFORCER and have him get beat the shit out of the other teams players, take the flagrant, technical, suspension, etc, IF IF IF the other team consistently beats the shit out of WSU players and gets away with it.


That will stop that shit real fast.
 
FWIW....if we had hit 45% from three....we would have won the game. Just saying.

I will say that our team came out on fire and played very well defensively early. I was glad to see us swarm them. An Iowa State fan in front of us (who was okay overall) was being kind of a whiny b!tch about the way that fouls were being called even though there were more fouls called on us than on the Cyclones.
 
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FWIW....if we had hit 45% from three....we would have won the game. Just saying.

I will say that our team came out on fire and played very well defensively early. I was glad to see us swarm them. An Iowa State fan in front of us (who was okay overall) was being kind of a whiny b!tch about the way that fouls were being called even though there were more fouls called on us than on the Cyclones.
So the bigger questions you need to answer, Flat: Did you get to try a Runza? And did you get to the zoo?


Glad Cougar
 
So the bigger questions you need to answer, Flat: Did you get to try a Runza? And did you get to the zoo?

Glad Cougar

Tried the Runza. It was good but didn't blow my socks off. Discovered that they are a Nebraska version of Bierocks that are pretty popular in rural German/Russian communities in Kansas. Kansas version is better for what that is worth. My wife loved the wings that we got at a place in Council Bluffs and we tried out Culver's since they are opening one where I live later this year. Wanted to try an Omaha steak place but the timing didn't work out for that.

Way too damned cold to go to the zoo. High on Friday was in the 40's and a bit too breezy coupled with the low temps. Even colder on Saturday morning with the day starting at 25 degrees. We did some other local stuff and had a decent time though. Funniest thing was seeing Nebraska superfans wearing their gear at the casino playing slots while their team was playing in the tournament and trying to get their first ever NCAA tournament win. Gotta have priorities. Did see one dude with more than $10k in $100 bills in his hand feeding a slot machine.

The big disappointment out of the weekend was my car being a piece of crap. The infotainment system was buggy all weekend with my CarPlay not working well and the car popped a CEL when I was accelerating in the rain. Turns out that Acuras are prone to misfiring under heavy acceleration when it's raining out. I normally drive my F-150 when it's raining hard so I've never had that particular problem but apparently there is a TSB for it.

The alumni association pregame was strange because it was a covered tent with fans from all the schools in the same place. The Coug fans sang the fight song a couple times and did a "Go......Cougs" chant to humiliate the Illinois fans into silence.
 
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