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Burnett, (not so) gone.

wulffui

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At least not to ASU, I suppose. Next guy on the board...

This post was edited on 2/1 4:17 PM by wulffui
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

At some point, you'd like to send a round over the bow of the other team too. I'd be on the phone with their recruits offering trips right back at them.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Sadly, this weekend was the last visit weekend. I'm okay with losing a receiver here or there though. It's a position was can afford to take a hit at, although he looked special. It's going to be pretty rare that we are going after the same guys with Michigan honestly.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

It is a bad choice for the young man. I think that he will transfer out after two years. He is on a high and he believes that he is making the right choice. Harbaugh's offense calls for bigger physical receivers which he is not.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Also, plenty of our current commits had stamped a different Power 5 destination before they wound up picking WSU, so there seems to be a lot more give and take on these transactions than in the past.

At least we're going after kids that professional peers acknowledge would be of value in building their own programs.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.


Originally posted by ElComanche:
It is a bad choice for the young man. I think that he will transfer out after two years. He is on a high and he believes that he is making the right choice. Harbaugh's offense calls for bigger physical receivers which he is not.
"Come play for me, I'll make you the next Doug Balwin." Was that his recruiting pitch? Michigan is a awesome school, but as a player it makes zero sense to me.
 
Moi is/would be a bigger loss

Leach/Grinch need to improve the defense immediately.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Originally posted by Brent H.:

Originally posted by ElComanche:
It is a bad choice for the young man. I think that he will transfer out after two years. He is on a high and he believes that he is making the right choice. Harbaugh's offense calls for bigger physical receivers which he is not.
"Come play for me, I'll make you the next Doug Baldwin." Was that his recruiting pitch? Michigan is a awesome school, but as a player it makes zero sense to me.
Harbaugh has had a hard time developing receivers. Crabtree was a star under Leach and has regressed under Harbaugh. AJ Jenkins was the first round pick of the 49ers in 2013 and he is a bust. As you wrote, Baldwin could not get on the field at Stanford. If Burnett isn't smart enough to see the writing on the wall...
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Originally posted by BiggsCoug:
At some point, you'd like to send a round over the bow of the other team too. I'd be on the phone with their recruits offering trips right back at them.
Biggs, the problem with that is Michigan doesn't have many commitments. I could see Michigan not being very good for a few more years.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Originally posted by Coug1990:
Originally posted by Brent H.:

Originally posted by ElComanche:
It is a bad choice for the young man. I think that he will transfer out after two years. He is on a high and he believes that he is making the right choice. Harbaugh's offense calls for bigger physical receivers which he is not.
"Come play for me, I'll make you the next Doug Baldwin." Was that his recruiting pitch? Michigan is a awesome school, but as a player it makes zero sense to me.
Harbaugh has had a hard time developing receivers. Crabtree was a star under Leach and has regressed under Harbaugh. AJ Jenkins was the first round pick of the 49ers in 2013 and he is a bust. As you wrote, Baldwin could not get on the field at Stanford. If Burnett isn't smart enough to see the writing on the wall...
Maybe Harbaugh told him he's hiring Wulff to coach receivers...
 
You might want to look at the recruiting class rankings

on both Rivals and Scout for the 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes if you think Michigan is devoid of talent.

The 2015 class will impact Michigan in 2017 and especially 2018 (how much nobody knows), not next year or the year after.
 
Re: You might want to look at the recruiting class rankings


Originally posted by Yost24:
on both Rivals and Scout for the 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes if you think Michigan is devoid of talent.

The 2015 class will impact Michigan in 2017 and especially 2018 (how much nobody knows), not next year or the year after.
You have to deal with Urbz, yearly. Harbaugh is a great coach, but he couldn't beat Carroll, Coughlin or Chip when it mattered. Probably will be the same with Urbz, because let's all admit it, Meyer is the best coach in college.
 
Re: You might want to look at the recruiting class rankings

Originally posted by Yost24:
on both Rivals and Scout for the 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes if you think Michigan is devoid of talent.

The 2015 class will impact Michigan in 2017 and especially 2018 (how much nobody knows), not next year or the year after.
So with all that great talent, you have been great the last several years? Or is it a little overrated? I guess we will find out.
 
Re: You might want to look at the recruiting class rankings

Originally posted by Yost24:
on both Rivals and Scout for the 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes if you think Michigan is devoid of talent.

The 2015 class will impact Michigan in 2017 and especially 2018 (how much nobody knows), not next year or the year after.
You missed the point. But thanks for coming here to talk down to us.
 
The star rating...In the Super Bowl the average rating was 2.3 stars

There are no five star recruits as they came out of high school playing in the Super Bowl. Interesting stuff.
 
Re: The star rating...In the Super Bowl the average rating was 2.3 stars

Originally posted by CougEd:
There are no five star recruits as they came out of high school playing in the Super Bowl. Interesting stuff.
That is interesting. But, it is not entirely true. The Seahawks third string RB, Christine Michael, was a consensus five star recruit. Still, I think the sentiment about lower rated players is probably true.
 
Re: Burnett, gone.

Dumb. Hope he enjoys hanging out on the sidelines in front of 100,000 fans. 90% of Harbaughs offense consists of 5 TE sets.
 
Thats wise.

Yes, that's a thing. Michigan sources evidently jumped the gun. That said, if there's any truth to the worst WDWHA I've heard in awhile, that's also an ugly foot for the Harbaugh era to start on.
 
Re: Glad he's still committed

I know ASU is trying to get in on him, but they're trying to come in really, really late. I know it's not tough for us to get receivers to play in this offense, but I still think this kid will be special.
 
Re: Glad he's still committed

Originally posted by 425cougfan:
I know ASU is trying to get in on him, but they're trying to come in really, really late. I know it's not tough for us to get receivers to play in this offense, but I still think this kid will be special.
In his initial story stating Burnett had committed, Adam Gorney did a good job explaining why Burnett hasn't gotten as much attention as his skills should demand. There are a couple 5-star guys on his high school team, and Adoree Jackson got most of the catches and attention a year ago (he's now at USC). Gorney says Burnett has excellent speed and was always open during the recent all star game and its practices.
 
If Burnett is smart he would stick with WSU. The distance factor needs to be considered for someone his age(17) and he would be a long way away from his family. If he went to ASU,it would be better for the kid. I wish him well, with whomever he signs with
 
For a WR to pick a Harbaugh team instead of a Leach team is a little like a tight end picking a Leach team over a Harbaugh team. Neither makes sense if the kid wants to get any amount of exposure.

But maybe Burnett sees himself blocking on 4 out of 5 plays. And maybe getting 4 balls thrown his way for an entire game is OK with him…if he plays an entire game.
 
Originally posted by ElComanche:
If Burnett is smart he would stick with WSU. The distance factor needs to be considered for someone his age(17) and he would be a long way away from his family. If he went to ASU,it would be better for the kid. I wish him well, with whomever he signs with
What exactly are you saying here? Read what you wrote.
 
Originally posted by 425cougfan:

Originally posted by ElComanche:
If Burnett is smart he would stick with WSU. The distance factor needs to be considered for someone his age(17) and he would be a long way away from his family. If he went to ASU,it would be better for the kid. I wish him well, with whomever he signs with
What exactly are you saying here? Read what you wrote.
Yeah, it is all over the place. Only one of them is good for us Cougar fans. I guess that he really isn't a fan?
 
I feel sorry for these kids to tell you the truth. He is a seventeen year old kid having to make a crucial life decision. My first choice for the kid is for him to stay with WSU But. I rather he go to ASU rather than Michigan where he would be unhappy and have to transfer. Yes he would be better in Leach's offense and he would prosper. But i really like to see kids get an education and enjoy playing the game they Love. Michigan is the absolute wrong choice for him. I wonder ehy Harbaugh is going after him?I really do not think that ASU is an option for if he stalls ,i do not believe that Leach would wait and he will be on the outside looking in,He would have to commit ro ASU without a visit. So i believe that his actual choice is between WSU and Michigan. Do not get your stuff ruffled.
 
I like how so many of us seem to know what's best for these young men. How the heck does anyone know that going to Michigan will be a mistake for this kid? I don't know anything about his academics, but that's a pretty good school from which to get a degree. I also assume the Wolverines sometimes pass the ball and will be in need of a good receiver. The number of passes caught is not going to be the defining issue as to a wide receiver's value. And even if they have been down the past couple of years, Michigan football is still a storied program. I wouldn't count them out under Harbaugh.

As much as I want all these kids to become Cougars, I certainly don't stand in judgment of their decision. Besides, it reads like sour grapes.

Glad Cougar
 
Because we have years and years of evidence of our/their offensive schemes. After all the choice is to play football. Not judging in any other aspect, just football wise it's like choosing to throw a pick play on the one...makes little sense.
 
Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
I like how so many of us seem to know what's best for these young men. How the heck does anyone know that going to Michigan will be a mistake for this kid? I don't know anything about his academics, but that's a pretty good school from which to get a degree. I also assume the Wolverines sometimes pass the ball and will be in need of a good receiver. The number of passes caught is not going to be the defining issue as to a wide receiver's value. And even if they have been down the past couple of years, Michigan football is still a storied program. I wouldn't count them out under Harbaugh.

As much as I want all these kids to become Cougars, I certainly don't stand in judgment of their decision. Besides, it reads like sour grapes.

Glad Cougar
So, now that you have lectured all of us, I guess you think you know what is best for him?
 
Originally posted by Coug1990:
Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
I like how so many of us seem to know what's best for these young men. How the heck does anyone know that going to Michigan will be a mistake for this kid? I don't know anything about his academics, but that's a pretty good school from which to get a degree. I also assume the Wolverines sometimes pass the ball and will be in need of a good receiver. The number of passes caught is not going to be the defining issue as to a wide receiver's value. And even if they have been down the past couple of years, Michigan football is still a storied program. I wouldn't count them out under Harbaugh.

As much as I want all these kids to become Cougars, I certainly don't stand in judgment of their decision. Besides, it reads like sour grapes.

Glad Cougar
So, now that you have lectured all of us, I guess you think you know what is best for him?
Nope, I have no idea what's best for the kid. That's really all I'm saying. Many posts in this thread seem to suggest others do know what is best for him....and they say it's not Michigan. I just can't blame a kid for being interested in going to Michigan, that's all.

Sorry 1990, if it came off looking like a lecture. I read all this stuff early this morning and was cranky to begin with after the Super Bowl. Just expressing my opinion.

Glad Cougar
 
Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
Originally posted by Coug1990:
Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
I like how so many of us seem to know what's best for these young men. How the heck does anyone know that going to Michigan will be a mistake for this kid? I don't know anything about his academics, but that's a pretty good school from which to get a degree. I also assume the Wolverines sometimes pass the ball and will be in need of a good receiver. The number of passes caught is not going to be the defining issue as to a wide receiver's value. And even if they have been down the past couple of years, Michigan football is still a storied program. I wouldn't count them out under Harbaugh.

As much as I want all these kids to become Cougars, I certainly don't stand in judgment of their decision. Besides, it reads like sour grapes.

Glad Cougar
So, now that you have lectured all of us, I guess you think you know what is best for him?
Nope, I have no idea what's best for the kid. That's really all I'm saying. Many posts in this thread seem to suggest others do know what is best for him....and they say it's not Michigan. I just can't blame a kid for being interested in going to Michigan, that's all.

Sorry 1990, if it came off looking like a lecture. I read all this stuff early this morning and was cranky to begin with after the Super Bowl. Just expressing my opinion.

Glad Cougar
No worries. A lot of us are cranky after what happened yesterday. I cannot believe the Seahawks husky'd it like that.
 
Re: The star rating...In the Super Bowl the average rating was 2.3 stars

And how many 2 & 3 star players are there, compared to 5 stars?

From a percentage standpoint, the recruiting services don't do as poor a job as people want to think.
 
Originally posted by chugspig:
Because we have years and years of evidence of our/their offensive schemes. After all the choice is to play football. Not judging in any other aspect, just football wise it's like choosing to throw a pick play on the one...makes little sense.
On the other hand though, if this kid came out and said, "All I want to do is win, and Michigan is a great program with a great coach. If blocking is what I need to do to win, then that's what I'll do." would you really fault him for that? Shouldn't sacrificing personal stats for the team be considered admirable?
 
Re: The star rating...In the Super Bowl the average rating was 2.3 stars

Fab, also a consideration in all of this… the "services" have evolved considerably in the past 5 (and longer) years. So if the players have been playing for longer than 5 years or so, I'd say that is something to consider, as well.

10 years ago (or whenever), Brady might have been a 2 star, but now I'd wonder if he wouldn't be higher up… as an example.
 
Gimme a break Fab, no self respecting WR wants to go to college to block as a WR. They WANT to catch the ball. Saying otherwise is just foolish.

Learning to block with certainly help you and the team and maybe get you to the pros.... but Wide Outs want to catch the dam ball ! And they should want to !!
 
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