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Cameron Ward

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He was the QB at Incarnate Word this year. There is talk that he’s going to follow Morris to wherever he was going. This could make things interesting. He threw for 47 TD’s, over 4,600 yards, completed 64% of his passes and only threw 10 picks. Yes, he’s FCS, but so was Bailey Zappe and he had an incredible season. Dude just has a cannon.

 
He was the QB at Incarnate Word this year. There is talk that he’s going to follow Morris to wherever he was going. This could make things interesting. He threw for 47 TD’s, over 4,600 yards, completed 64% of his passes and only threw 10 picks. Yes, he’s FCS, but so was Bailey Zappe and he had an incredible season. Dude just has a cannon.

We need QB depth with just JDL and Ward as scholarship guys on the roster.
 
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He was the QB at Incarnate Word this year. There is talk that he’s going to follow Morris to wherever he was going. This could make things interesting. He threw for 47 TD’s, over 4,600 yards, completed 64% of his passes and only threw 10 picks. Yes, he’s FCS, but so was Bailey Zappe and he had an incredible season. Dude just has a cannon.

Good. We have 2 scholly QBs and could use the depth. And good to have someone to push DeLaura. As was the case with Gubrud I’d expect Morris/Dickert will be real with him that while competition is always welcome there’s a tough hill to climb in Pullman to be QB1 if he wants to head our way.
 
As I said last Week. This is a complete rebuild on offense & that was before we knew a new system was rolling into town.

92% of Rushing Yds - Gone
65% of Receiving Yds - Gone
65% of Catches - Gone
4-of-5 Starting O-Line - Gone

Bring him up.
 
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I don't see him transferring to WSU. It would be great for us if he did, but why wouldn't go someplace where he'll have a legitimate shot at the starting job?

Last week, our new coach said in the press conference that we're building the offensive scheme around JDL. If I were Ward's Dad, that would obviously raise a red flag. I can name at least 4 P12 schools where he'd have a legitimate opportunity to win the job in Spring camp.
 
If Leach’s 8 years taught us anything. Not everyone can play in the AR.

Obviously deLaura is the starter at this point. But just like Rolo did...........The realities are you need someone to run the offense you are running not that you were running. deLaura was recruited to run the Air Raid by Leach, so there's no reason for him not to be able to run the offense that he committed to out of St. Louis.
 
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JDL is, should be the favorite, should, if the IW QB transfers.

That said as good as JDL has been, he still has a lower completion percentage, and still makes some really bad throws, and his interception rate is about 2.5 to 1 per every 1 int, and his mechanics are still not good

He is still a baller, gamer, winner tho.

That said, if the IW QB transfer were to come in on fire during spring ball, the spring game, during fall camp, during a fall exhibition vs LC state, etc, and during a directional state non con opening game, and if JDL during that time either struggles, or is flat, or doesn't do as well as the IW QB, the IW QB would have won, beat out JDL, would be the starter.

Also IW QB has 4600 yards, 47 TD's, vs ONLY 10 INT'S(THAT'S MINSHEW LEVEL GOOD)

For. Comparison that's way the hell better then Gubrud's about 4000 yards, about 30 TD's, and about 17 Ints, and bad int ratio.

It's also way the hell better then what JDL has done.

That said it still JDL's job to lose, and he is still the favorite.

But the IW QB, can still come in and can still beat out JDL.

And the coaches are still going to have a competition. And IF the IW QB, were to beat out JDL, they wouldn't just ignore that and still start JDL, because a coach said that they are going to build the offense around JDL.

And even tho JDL is the favorite, etc. Don't be surprised if the IW QB beats out JDL, as he is capable of doing that, doesn't mean he would, but he is capable of doing it.

Also Gubrud was the favorite, just like JDL, and Anthony Gordon beat him out.

If Anthony Gordon could come out of nowhere to beat out Gubrud the favorite, the IW QB can beat out JDL. Doesn't mean he will tho.

JDL is the favorite, but despite that a JDL, IW QB battle would be EXTREMELY CLOSE, with JDL just barely by skin of teeth, being the starter.

I agree that the IW QB probably shouldn't transfer here, as it would be harder then anywhere else to be the starter, but if he thinks he is that good and wants to come, then he is welcome.

I think most of you are being too dismissive of the IW QB.

That said I still think JDL is the favorite(just barely by skin of his teeth)

And I think it would be a extremely close battle with JDL just barely winning by skin of his teeth.
 
I don't see him transferring to WSU. It would be great for us if he did, but why wouldn't go someplace where he'll have a legitimate shot at the starting job?

Last week, our new coach said in the press conference that we're building the offensive scheme around JDL. If I were Ward's Dad, that would obviously raise a red flag. I can name at least 4 P12 schools where he'd have a legitimate opportunity to win the job in Spring camp.

I think with Morris at Wazzu, he'll have a legitimate shot at the starting job. He's been running his offense for 2 years. Of course Dickert is going to say he's going to build his offense around JDL, but also, he's not not going to bring in talent. Ward is extremely talented. I'm just saying to not be shocked if he shows up here.
 
I think with Morris at Wazzu, he'll have a legitimate shot at the starting job. He's been running his offense for 2 years. Of course Dickert is going to say he's going to build his offense around JDL, but also, he's not not going to bring in talent. Ward is extremely talented. I'm just saying to not be shocked if he shows up here.
I'm betting that if a presumptive starter comes to WSU JDL hits the portal.

edited to add: I absolutely do NOT want JDL to leave, he's electric despite his shortcomings. He's worth 2-3 wins himself every year. and losing him will 100% set the program back significantly.
 
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I'm betting that if a presumptive starter comes to WSU JDL hits the portal.
No way. I don't see that at all, and believe me, I'm about as paranoid a Coug fan as you'll meet. You're talking about a solidified QB1 and someone who was largely considered to be one of, if not the best performing QBs in the P12 this season. And he's going to transfer out of fear of competition?

This new kid may be legit, but JDL doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would be intimidated by an incoming FCS transfer.
 
I'm betting that if a presumptive starter comes to WSU JDL hits the portal.

This is my concern as well. Despite JDL just barely by skin of his teeth being the favorite, and likely being the starter, I think there is a chance that he either transfers and lets the IW QB be the starter(Small chance), or if he loses out to the IW QB, he will probably transfer out.

The IW QB, would only be here for 1,2 years, and if JDL left, would be starting with scratch in 1,2 years. Not good.

But has JDL has 3 more years that he can start, and during that time, can get a replacement for when JDL done.

But IF the IW QB transfers in and JDL transfers out, then it's going to be hard to get a replacement for the IW QB, when the IW QB is done.

Or IF JDL gets beaten out by the IW QB, and then transfers out, it's going to be hard to get a replacement for the IW QB, when the IW QB would be done in 1,2 year(s)

That is my concern as well
 
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This is my concern as well. Despite JDL just barely by skin of his teeth being the favorite, and likely being the starter, I think there is a chance that he either transfers and lets the IW QB be the starter(Small chance), or if he loses out to the IW QB, he will probably transfer out.
Mik, honestly, what are you talking about? Better yet, what are you basing that opinion on? Please tell me you've seen more than that one clip where Ward hucks the ball sidearmed from below to his waist to a receiver open by 20 yards.

JDL by the skin of teeth being the favorite? Come on man.
 
Mik, honestly, what are you talking about? Better yet, what are you basing that opinion on? Please tell me you've seen more than that one clip where Ward hucks the ball sidearmed from below to his waist to a receiver open by 20 yards.

JDL by the skin of teeth being the favorite? Come on man.

JDL is the CLEAR favorite vs Ward.

No way in hell does Ward beat out JDL

But against the IW QB, JDL is just barely the Favorite.

I already explained the LOGIC, facts, comparisons, stats, etc.

Rebuttle that.

The IW QB put up MINSHEW level stats, play, with 4600 yards, 47 TD's, VS ONLY 10 INT'S which is way the hell better then Gubrud, JDL.

Gubrud was the favorite, and Gordon came out of nowhere to beat him out.

As good as a baller, gamer, JDL is, he still occasionally struggles with his accuracy, incompletions, making bad throws into coverage, interceptions, BAD MECHANICS.

JDL is the favorite, but the IW QB is more then capable of beating JDL out, and a QB battle between JDL and the IW QB, would be extremely close, that JDL would win.

You are being too dismissive of the IW QB.
 
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JDL is the CLEAR favorite vs Ward.

No way in hell does Ward beat out JDL

But against the IW QB, JDL is just barely the Favorite.

I already explained the LOGIC, facts, comparisons, stats, etc.

Rebuttle that.

The IW QB put up MINSHEW level stats, play, with 4600 yards, 47 TD's, VS ONLY 10 TD's which is way the hell better then Gubrud, JDL.

Gubrud was the favorite, and Gordon came out of nowhere to beat him out.

As good as a baller, gamer, JDL is, he still occasionally struggles with his accuracy, incompletions, making bad throws into coverage, interceptions, BAD MECHANICS.

JDL is the favorite, but the IW QB is more then capable of beating JDL out, and a QB battle between JDL and the IW QB, would be extremely close, that JDL would win.

You are being too dismissive of the IW QB.

Let them compete.
 
No way. I don't see that at all, and believe me, I'm about as paranoid a Coug fan as you'll meet. You're talking about a solidified QB1 and someone who was largely considered to be one of, if not the best performing QBs in the P12 this season. And he's going to transfer out of fear of competition?

This new kid may be legit, but JDL doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would be intimidated by an incoming FCS transfer.
which part of presumptive starter did you miss. I'm not talking about a rando kid, I'm talking about the kid who knows the OCs offense and is following him to another school.
 
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Let them compete.

Exactly, and altho JDL will probably be just barely win a probable extremely close battle, don't be surprised if the IW QB were to win.

If Gordon can come out of absolutly nowhere to beat out Gubrud, then the IW QB is certainly more then capable of beating out JDL, even tho JDL is the favorite that would probably just barely win a extremely close battle.

Let them battle it out, and let the chips fall where they fall
 
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Please make it happen. The "Leave it to Beaver" jokes we can use after beating Oregon State will be so much fun.
 
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JDL is the CLEAR favorite vs Ward.

No way in hell does Ward beat out JDL

But against the IW QB, JDL is just barely the Favorite.

I already explained the LOGIC, facts, comparisons, stats, etc.

Rebuttle that.

The IW QB put up MINSHEW level stats, play, with 4600 yards, 47 TD's, VS ONLY 10 INT'S which is way the hell better then Gubrud, JDL.

Gubrud was the favorite, and Gordon came out of nowhere to beat him out.

As good as a baller, gamer, JDL is, he still occasionally struggles with his accuracy, incompletions, making bad throws into coverage, interceptions, BAD MECHANICS.

JDL is the favorite, but the IW QB is more then capable of beating JDL out, and a QB battle between JDL and the IW QB, would be extremely close, that JDL would win.

You are being too dismissive of the IW QB.
The Incarnate World QB's name is also Ward.
 
I think with Morris at Wazzu, he'll have a legitimate shot at the starting job. He's been running his offense for 2 years. Of course Dickert is going to say he's going to build his offense around JDL, but also, he's not not going to bring in talent. Ward is extremely talented. I'm just saying to not be shocked if he shows up here.
There some touting him as a future NFL player,
 
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It's interesting to me that so many people seem to assume that an OC is obligated to pick his philosophy in football and never change it. Dickert made it clear that he wants an offense that works for JDL and the guys we have. It just might be possible that we merge run and shoot principles with air raid concepts and actually be innovative.
 
It's interesting to me that so many people seem to assume that an OC is obligated to pick his philosophy in football and never change it. Dickert made it clear that he wants an offense that works for JDL and the guys we have. It just might be possible that we merge run and shoot principles with air raid concepts and actually be innovative.
I agree. It's also interesting to me that some people opine the JDL won't adapt to the air raid. Maybe in Leach's system that would be true, but in the more modern iterations of the air raid, I think JDL will flourish. He was significantly more accurate and more effective when he was deliberate and on time with his throws. If the new OC is as advertised, I don't see any reason for concern apart from maybe the running concepts. This system seems to emphasize a lot of sideline to sideline running plays, and JDL was really good at selling the delayed runs and counter plays. I hope we retain some of the inside runs.
 
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I agree. It's also interesting to me that some people opine the JDL won't adapt to the air raid. Maybe in Leach's system that would be true, but in the more modern iterations of the air raid, I think JDL will flourish. He was significantly more accurate and more effective when he was deliberate and on time with his throws. If the new OC is as advertised, I don't see any reason for concern apart from maybe the running concepts. This system seems to emphasize a lot of sideline to sideline running plays, and JDL was really good at selling the delayed runs and counter plays. I hope we retain some of the inside runs.
Our starting RB (next year presumably) Watson is an absolute bruiser and I agree on keeping those inside running plays as he is the type that would welcome the contact. I think it would greatly benefit JDL and our Defense if we could get to a point where we wear down opposing defenses just simply by leaning on them all game long. Nothing more frustrating to a team than an opposing offense that eats TOP for breakfast.
 
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