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CFB TV ratings week 4...

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Hall Of Fame
Sep 9, 2001
5,174
1,086
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Crazy viewership for that Colorado - Oregon blow out. It's been suggested Deion is bringing NFL viewers that don't watch college football to the table. Seems shortlived.
 
When you look at all the competition for that 7-7;30 EST time slot, getting 1.43 million viewers is quite an accomplishment.
 

Crazy viewership for that Colorado - Oregon blow out. It's been suggested Deion is bringing NFL viewers that don't watch college football to the table. Seems shortlived.

People love to root against arrogant dillholes....and a bunch of the rest are front running douchebags. I figure the hype will down a lot if USC whips CU as expected. If ASU wins in Tempe.....that bandwagon will be running pretty light.
 
How quick we forget that we hired Mike Leach, in substantial part, to expand our media presence and reach. Which was successful, and persists and helps us to this day. I hope this Deion preoccupation is just an example of plain old green eye envy, and not something related to a modern expression of a deep seated flaw in American society.

Like him or not, Deion Sanders took over a bad Jackson State team, located in a poverty stricken, third world city that makes Flint, Michigan look like Brentwood, and went 27-6, all the while school administrators were embezzling from the football team. Did I mention that Jackson's murder rate is 9 times that of LA.

Combine that with the man is an NFL and CFB hall of famer called "Prime Time," an MLB veteran and has already tripled Colorado's win total, beating a ranked opponent, coming off an appearance in the national championship game. Sure there is some hype, its entertainment, but it is a major/insane story too. We are talking about one of the greatest American athletes who has ever lived, who is also proving to be a hell of a coach too.

To call the man an "arrogant dillhole" is troubling, particularly when I doubt anyone can point to something remotely "arrogant," since he was a young man, and physically backed up that so called "arrogance" with insane ability to take the ball "all the way" any time he got his hands on it.

The reality is Deion is a very smart business man. He marketed himself and his "Prime Time" brand in college and in the pros, decades before NILs, realizing that there are much easier and safer ways to make money, commercially, than simply taking a beating on the field of play. And he continues to parlay that "Prime Time" marketing to this day as a multi-millionaire, who frankly never needed to get into coaching.
 
I like Deon, he's good for college football, I may not agree with everything he does, but he has always been great at drawing attention to himself and his team. Mike Leach drew a lot of attention in a much different way than Prime, however like Prime, there were a lot of fans and people that didn't like Mike Leach, it's people like Prime, and Leach that make sports unique, they push the envelope in different ways, and get many people to question the system. Prime isn't doing anything illegal; he is simply taking advantage of a system that college football has created. You may not care for his methods, but he was hired to win football games and that is what he is trying to do. And unlike many coaches, he truly does care about his players, that is evident in the way they play for him.
 
I like Deon, he's good for college football, I may not agree with everything he does, but he has always been great at drawing attention to himself and his team. Mike Leach drew a lot of attention in a much different way than Prime, however like Prime, there were a lot of fans and people that didn't like Mike Leach, it's people like Prime, and Leach that make sports unique, they push the envelope in different ways, and get many people to question the system. Prime isn't doing anything illegal; he is simply taking advantage of a system that college football has created. You may not care for his methods, but he was hired to win football games and that is what he is trying to do. And unlike many coaches, he truly does care about his players, that is evident in the way they play for him.

We will see what happens at the end of the season. Does he have another team meeting to fire kids and coaches? I think his roster is gonna be a revolving door. He is treating CU like the NFL. Not for long.
 
How quick we forget that we hired Mike Leach, in substantial part, to expand our media presence and reach. Which was successful, and persists and helps us to this day. I hope this Deion preoccupation is just an example of plain old green eye envy, and not something related to a modern expression of a deep seated flaw in American society.

Like him or not, Deion Sanders took over a bad Jackson State team, located in a poverty stricken, third world city that makes Flint, Michigan look like Brentwood, and went 27-6, all the while school administrators were embezzling from the football team. Did I mention that Jackson's murder rate is 9 times that of LA.

Combine that with the man is an NFL and CFB hall of famer called "Prime Time," an MLB veteran and has already tripled Colorado's win total, beating a ranked opponent, coming off an appearance in the national championship game. Sure there is some hype, its entertainment, but it is a major/insane story too. We are talking about one of the greatest American athletes who has ever lived, who is also proving to be a hell of a coach too.

To call the man an "arrogant dillhole" is troubling, particularly when I doubt anyone can point to something remotely "arrogant," since he was a young man, and physically backed up that so called "arrogance" with insane ability to take the ball "all the way" any time he got his hands on it.

The reality is Deion is a very smart business man. He marketed himself and his "Prime Time" brand in college and in the pros, decades before NILs, realizing that there are much easier and safer ways to make money, commercially, than simply taking a beating on the field of play. And he continues to parlay that "Prime Time" marketing to this day as a multi-millionaire, who frankly never needed to get into coaching.
Well said. Jimmy Lake - Arrogant. Deion - Winner
 
We will see what happens at the end of the season. Does he have another team meeting to fire kids and coaches? I think his roster is gonna be a revolving door. He is treating CU like the NFL. Not for long.
That’s how college football works now dude. Plus he had to turn over a lot of the roster, he had kids that had no business playing P5 ball. He knew it and so did they. Leach turned over a decent chunk of Wulffs roster too, it was necessary.

The biggest question with Deion and his success is will he stay. That’s what coaches are going to be suing recruiting against him.
 
How quick we forget that we hired Mike Leach, in substantial part, to expand our media presence and reach. Which was successful, and persists and helps us to this day. I hope this Deion preoccupation is just an example of plain old green eye envy, and not something related to a modern expression of a deep seated flaw in American society.

Like him or not, Deion Sanders took over a bad Jackson State team, located in a poverty stricken, third world city that makes Flint, Michigan look like Brentwood, and went 27-6, all the while school administrators were embezzling from the football team. Did I mention that Jackson's murder rate is 9 times that of LA.

Combine that with the man is an NFL and CFB hall of famer called "Prime Time," an MLB veteran and has already tripled Colorado's win total, beating a ranked opponent, coming off an appearance in the national championship game. Sure there is some hype, its entertainment, but it is a major/insane story too. We are talking about one of the greatest American athletes who has ever lived, who is also proving to be a hell of a coach too.

To call the man an "arrogant dillhole" is troubling, particularly when I doubt anyone can point to something remotely "arrogant," since he was a young man, and physically backed up that so called "arrogance" with insane ability to take the ball "all the way" any time he got his hands on it.

The reality is Deion is a very smart business man. He marketed himself and his "Prime Time" brand in college and in the pros, decades before NILs, realizing that there are much easier and safer ways to make money, commercially, than simply taking a beating on the field of play. And he continues to parlay that "Prime Time" marketing to this day as a multi-millionaire, who frankly never needed to get into coaching.

What if I thought that Mike Leach had a lot of moments when he was an arrogant dillhole and was embarrassing to himself and the university? People need to be careful with how much they try to read in to what other people are thinking.

As for CU beating a ranked opponent...only time will tell if TCU is ranked at the end of the year...and CU got them in week one when they were replacing over half of their offense and three NFL caliber players on defense. The "national runner-up" sales pitch on the TCU win is bullsh!t by the way. We beat UCLA in week one in 1997. By the end of the season, despite WSU getting the Rose Bowl nod, everyone knew that UCLA was the better team. And in 1998, despite our being the returning conference champ... we finished last in the Pac-10. So, let's all collectively quit pretending that last year's TCU team is this year's team and that CU beat a team that might make the CFP. Deion can keep all the receipts he wants...TCU is going to be coming for him next year and he won't get them in week one.

Deion is great at marketing himself but to say that he's a smart business man is really unfounded at this point. Outside of his own marketing, I've never heard of any businesses that he's running. None of us can bee too angry at Deion for being great at what he does and taking advantage of a system that rewards people like him...but that doesn't mean that the system is good and fair to the teams playing within that system. He is the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with college football. He's got some substance that backs up a lot of his actions, but the world is a better place when we don't have a bunch of peacock coaches who think that they are amazing. And again, Colorado is enjoying the short term bump that he is giving them, but three years from now, there is going to be buyer's remorse. He'll either be fired for losing or they will be mad because he took all of his best talent with him to his next job.
 
What if I thought that Mike Leach had a lot of moments when he was an arrogant dillhole and was embarrassing to himself and the university? People need to be careful with how much they try to read in to what other people are thinking.

As for CU beating a ranked opponent...only time will tell if TCU is ranked at the end of the year...and CU got them in week one when they were replacing over half of their offense and three NFL caliber players on defense. The "national runner-up" sales pitch on the TCU win is bullsh!t by the way. We beat UCLA in week one in 1997. By the end of the season, despite WSU getting the Rose Bowl nod, everyone knew that UCLA was the better team. And in 1998, despite our being the returning conference champ... we finished last in the Pac-10. So, let's all collectively quit pretending that last year's TCU team is this year's team and that CU beat a team that might make the CFP. Deion can keep all the receipts he wants...TCU is going to be coming for him next year and he won't get them in week one.

Deion is great at marketing himself but to say that he's a smart business man is really unfounded at this point. Outside of his own marketing, I've never heard of any businesses that he's running. None of us can bee too angry at Deion for being great at what he does and taking advantage of a system that rewards people like him...but that doesn't mean that the system is good and fair to the teams playing within that system. He is the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with college football. He's got some substance that backs up a lot of his actions, but the world is a better place when we don't have a bunch of peacock coaches who think that they are amazing. And again, Colorado is enjoying the short term bump that he is giving them, but three years from now, there is going to be buyer's remorse. He'll either be fired for losing or they will be mad because he took all of his best talent with him to his next job.
It’s possible Oregon is one of the best teams in the country too. And a motivated top 3 team can lay a whooping on an outmatched top 25/30 team. Hell we are talking about TCU look what happened to them in the NC game.
I think Colorado is still a dangerous team and will put together some more wins. 6-7 is probably where they land. 10 in a shitty big 12 next year is not unrealistic.
 
What if I thought that Mike Leach had a lot of moments when he was an arrogant dillhole and was embarrassing to himself and the university? People need to be careful with how much they try to read in to what other people are thinking.

As for CU beating a ranked opponent...only time will tell if TCU is ranked at the end of the year...and CU got them in week one when they were replacing over half of their offense and three NFL caliber players on defense. The "national runner-up" sales pitch on the TCU win is bullsh!t by the way. We beat UCLA in week one in 1997. By the end of the season, despite WSU getting the Rose Bowl nod, everyone knew that UCLA was the better team. And in 1998, despite our being the returning conference champ... we finished last in the Pac-10. So, let's all collectively quit pretending that last year's TCU team is this year's team and that CU beat a team that might make the CFP. Deion can keep all the receipts he wants...TCU is going to be coming for him next year and he won't get them in week one.

Deion is great at marketing himself but to say that he's a smart business man is really unfounded at this point. Outside of his own marketing, I've never heard of any businesses that he's running. None of us can bee too angry at Deion for being great at what he does and taking advantage of a system that rewards people like him...but that doesn't mean that the system is good and fair to the teams playing within that system. He is the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with college football. He's got some substance that backs up a lot of his actions, but the world is a better place when we don't have a bunch of peacock coaches who think that they are amazing. And again, Colorado is enjoying the short term bump that he is giving them, but three years from now, there is going to be buyer's remorse. He'll either be fired for losing or they will be mad because he took all of his best talent with him to his next job.

Prime Time was on UNDERCOVER BOSS, where he showed just how awesomely smart of a businessman he is, that cares about his employees, community, kids, etc.
 
What if I thought that Mike Leach had a lot of moments when he was an arrogant dillhole and was embarrassing to himself and the university? People need to be careful with how much they try to read in to what other people are thinking.

As for CU beating a ranked opponent...only time will tell if TCU is ranked at the end of the year...and CU got them in week one when they were replacing over half of their offense and three NFL caliber players on defense. The "national runner-up" sales pitch on the TCU win is bullsh!t by the way. We beat UCLA in week one in 1997. By the end of the season, despite WSU getting the Rose Bowl nod, everyone knew that UCLA was the better team. And in 1998, despite our being the returning conference champ... we finished last in the Pac-10. So, let's all collectively quit pretending that last year's TCU team is this year's team and that CU beat a team that might make the CFP. Deion can keep all the receipts he wants...TCU is going to be coming for him next year and he won't get them in week one.

Deion is great at marketing himself but to say that he's a smart business man is really unfounded at this point. Outside of his own marketing, I've never heard of any businesses that he's running. None of us can bee too angry at Deion for being great at what he does and taking advantage of a system that rewards people like him...but that doesn't mean that the system is good and fair to the teams playing within that system. He is the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with college football. He's got some substance that backs up a lot of his actions, but the world is a better place when we don't have a bunch of peacock coaches who think that they are amazing. And again, Colorado is enjoying the short term bump that he is giving them, but three years from now, there is going to be buyer's remorse. He'll either be fired for losing or they will be mad because he took all of his best talent with him to his next job.
You are missing the point. We once beat the #9 team in the country by 39 on the road as you recall, that was about as big as it gets for us. News, hype and headlines are based on the here and now. The fact that those Ducks ultimately proved to be mediocre when things played out, was for the history books. The Buffs and Deion are the here and now.

On the business front, have you heard of the Kardashians? With no appreciable value, worth or skills to speak of they became very wealthy by somehow getting people interested in them and what they have to say. Someone, or more, in that family is great at the business of marketing themselves, even though they have never run a Fortune 500 company.

Deion is the same way. His public "Prime" character is, and has been, a "heel" to most white America, since forever, and a "baby face" to most black America. However, both America's are tuning in in record numbers, one hoping for the "crash and burn," the other hoping that he can stick it in white America's eye once again. Bottomline is, vastly more butts are in the seats and eyes on the screen watching a team, that has had one winning season since 2005, than anyone would think imaginable. That's great for the "Prime business" -- endorsements and contract extensions. Ultimately, Deion as "Prime" is a less patently obvious "Andy Kaufman" of sports/reality entertainment.

Surely, you know that you don't win 30 of your first 38 games as a head coach at two bad football programs living 24/7 as the bash "Prime" character? You don't become a hall of famer, either. It is a persona for public consumption, like pro wrestling.
 
You are missing the point. We once beat the #9 team in the country by 39 on the road as you recall, that was about as big as it gets for us. News, hype and headlines are based on the here and now. The fact that those Ducks ultimately proved to be mediocre when things played out, was for the history books. The Buffs and Deion are the here and now.

On the business front, have you heard of the Kardashians? With no appreciable value, worth or skills to speak of they became very wealthy by somehow getting people interested in them and what they have to say. Someone, or more, in that family is great at the business of marketing themselves, even though they have never run a Fortune 500 company.

Deion is the same way. His public "Prime" character is, and has been, a "heel" to most white America, since forever, and a "baby face" to most black America. However, both America's are tuning in in record numbers, one hoping for the "crash and burn," the other hoping that he can stick it in white America's eye once again. Bottomline is, vastly more butts are in the seats and eyes on the screen watching a team, that has had one winning season since 2005, than anyone would think imaginable. That's great for the "Prime business" -- endorsements and contract extensions. Ultimately, Deion as "Prime" is a less patently obvious "Andy Kaufman" of sports/reality entertainment.

Surely, you know that you don't win 30 of your first 38 games as a head coach at two bad football programs living 24/7 as the bash "Prime" character? You don't become a hall of famer, either. It is a persona for public consumption, like pro wrestling.

I'm sure that there are some people that hate Deion because of his skin color but it's lazy to just make this a racial thing. I don't like Donald Trump because he's the same kind of bombastic, narcissistic jerkwad that Sanders is. I actually liked Pat McAfee for a minute and I don't hate him because although he's loud and obnoxious, he's also self aware and willing to be the butt of a joke. Still, his over the top antics are turning me off over time. It's ok for regular folks to dislike arrogant, narcissistic caricatures that show disrespect to most people that they meet.

We will find out if Sanders is a fraud in the next couple years. At Jacksonville State, he was able to bring in significantly better talent than his competition so his record isn't as meaningful. By virtue of bailing to the Big 12, he avoids the talent deficit that he would have faced against Oregon, USC and UW in particular. Still, the Big 12 isn't full of a bunch of scrubs. Even in a down year, it's got a lot of decent teams. Can he win a bunch of games without the big talent edge? We'll see.
 
I'm sure that there are some people that hate Deion because of his skin color but it's lazy to just make this a racial thing. I don't like Donald Trump because he's the same kind of bombastic, narcissistic jerkwad that Sanders is. I actually liked Pat McAfee for a minute and I don't hate him because although he's loud and obnoxious, he's also self aware and willing to be the butt of a joke. Still, his over the top antics are turning me off over time. It's ok for regular folks to dislike arrogant, narcissistic caricatures that show disrespect to most people that they meet.

We will find out if Sanders is a fraud in the next couple years. At Jacksonville State, he was able to bring in significantly better talent than his competition so his record isn't as meaningful. By virtue of bailing to the Big 12, he avoids the talent deficit that he would have faced against Oregon, USC and UW in particular. Still, the Big 12 isn't full of a bunch of scrubs. Even in a down year, it's got a lot of decent teams. Can he win a bunch of games without the big talent edge? We'll see.
McAfee has substance. Punter or not, 8 yrs in the NFL around multiple hall of famers - he's no dummy when it comes to his football knowledge. He's worked hard and smartly to get the gig he got. I'm not a fan of his "wife-beater" style. But that is an image he has carefully cultivated to gain a huge following. People don't discredit his experience.

The pushback against the Sanders skeptics is the claim that he is ONLY flash with no substance and that he couldn't possibly be a good head coach for some reason. It's a lazy dismissal of what he has done to get this gig: having to take the long road that other former players who are not black and not as accomplished as him have received to get even higher gigs (Jeff Saturday, John Lynch, Cliff Kingsbury [twice]). Wasn't it Cade Mcnown who was another one rumored to go straight to the head of the line with the Texans a couple years ago until some pretty loud grumblings about all this? No previous coaching experience except as a high school head coach..."here, take this NFL head coaching job" 😳 There are many others that just get straight shots from former players to coordinators.

Sanders has played by the rules and I think deserves everything coming to him, because - to me - he's earned it. That's all I have to say about that.
 
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