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My understanding is that a college scholarship is a 4 year offer that can only be taken away due to failed academics, injury, or if you entered under a redshirt status (it can be rescinded the following year).. I say this in wondering whether we haven’t seen official announcements for all soon to be signed players because they are attempting to push someone out the door. ie.. the player doesn’t have to give up his scholarship if they want to stay. Obviously the coach can hold over their head the fact that they won’t be on the team or be playing at all, but I know of at least 2 situations where players elected to stay and coach was stuck. Not sure if this factors into our thinking of who may be out, but there are a few names who would qualify to have their scholarships taken. The wait could be in an attempt to keep those players and hope for a different resolution.. It could also be possible that there are players who may qualify for a full financial aid package based on income.. Getting them the financial aid package would make the scholarship unnecessary. This has been used on occasion to skirt the rule as well. These would just be possible answers for why an official announcement hasn’t been made.. These hoops take time to jump through..
 
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My understanding is that a college scholarship is a 4 year offer that can only be taken away due to failed academics, injury, or if you entered under a redshirt status (it can be rescinded the following year).. I say this in wondering whether we haven’t seen official announcements for all soon to be signed players because they are attempting to push someone out the door. ie.. the player doesn’t have to give up his scholarship if they want to stay. Obviously the coach can hold over their head the fact that they won’t be on the team or be playing at all, but I know of at least 2 situations where players elected to stay and coach was stuck. Not sure if this factors into our thinking of who may be out, but there are a few names who would qualify to have their scholarships taken. The wait could be in an attempt to keep those players and hope for a different resolution.. It could also be possible that there are players who may qualify for a full financial aid package based on income.. Getting them the financial aid package would make the scholarship unnecessary. This has been used on occasion to skirt the rule as well. These would just be possible answers for why an official announcement hasn’t been made.. These hoops take time to jump through..
Interesting thought...
 
Scholarships are year to year and can be withdrawn at the coaches discretion. Some big programs were talking about offering a guarantee of four years as a recruiting tool but I don’t think any have done it yet.
 
My understanding is that a college scholarship is a 4 year offer that can only be taken away due to failed academics, injury, or if you entered under a redshirt status (it can be rescinded the following year).. I say this in wondering whether we haven’t seen official announcements for all soon to be signed players because they are attempting to push someone out the door. ie.. the player doesn’t have to give up his scholarship if they want to stay. Obviously the coach can hold over their head the fact that they won’t be on the team or be playing at all, but I know of at least 2 situations where players elected to stay and coach was stuck. Not sure if this factors into our thinking of who may be out, but there are a few names who would qualify to have their scholarships taken. The wait could be in an attempt to keep those players and hope for a different resolution.. It could also be possible that there are players who may qualify for a full financial aid package based on income.. Getting them the financial aid package would make the scholarship unnecessary. This has been used on occasion to skirt the rule as well. These would just be possible answers for why an official announcement hasn’t been made.. These hoops take time to jump through..
Or Maybe someone like Rodman (whose father has the ability to pay for his education) is going to pull a Rochestie and pay for his education so the team can have an extra scholarship. Just an idea...
 
Or Euro player that is returning to Europe who never hit the transfer portal. Or a combo of things.
 
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Scholarships are year to year and can be withdrawn at the coaches discretion. Some big programs were talking about offering a guarantee of four years as a recruiting tool but I don’t think any have done it yet.

Your TECHNICALLY right. But HC's almost never ever yank a scholly. They almost always encourage a player to transfer, and then if one of the players, candidates for transfering, stays, doesnt transfer, the HC is stuck with them because usually the HC wont Yank the scholly at that point, because its considered extremely bad thing to do, and they can get a lot of HEAT, flack, CRITICISM from FANS, AD, PRESIDENT, REGENTS, OTHER CONFERENCE COACHES, PLAYERS, THE NCAA, the Pac 12, other conferences.

So Yeah its technically legal that HC's can yank a scholly, but they usually wont do so.

And as proof of that, when was the last time any of us has heard of a scholly being yanked?

If have, its not very often.
 
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It happens all the time. Saying somebody is encouraged to leave is just a nice way of putting it. Same as “ player x is going to pursue other options”. “I want to thank the coaches, my teammates and most of all the fans for a great experience but at this time I think it is best for me if I transfer” happens all the time and is about to happen at WSU.
 
It happens all the time. Saying somebody is encouraged to leave is just a nice way of putting it. Same as “ player x is going to pursue other options”. “I want to thank the coaches, my teammates and most of all the fans for a great experience but at this time I think it is best for me if I transfer” happens all the time and is about to happen at WSU.

Maybe Tark the Shark and other Coaches like that might yank a scholly. But probably not 4 pillars Tony Bennet, Dick Bennet, Smith, etc.

Sampson would not have hesitated to yank a scholly, he would have yanked a scholly, and probably did yank a scholly.

Smith doesnt strike me as rhe type of coach that would yank a scholly.

He would definitly ENCOURAGE a transfer, tell them that while wont yank scholly, they are off the team, wont be allowed to participate with the team, in any way.

But if that doesnt work, then I dont think Smith would yank the scholly.

If he would, then my how things have changed at WSU!
 
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Things have changed everywhere. So kicking someone off the team for no reason and completely wasting a scholarship is preferable? Players are told to move on every year in every program it’s the nature of the game now. Just like players leave when ever they think the grass is greener. Very sad but loyalty is a think of the past in college hoops.
 
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Things have changed everywhere. So kicking someone off the team for no reason and completely wasting a scholarship is preferable? Players are told to move on every year in every program it’s the nature of the game now. Just like players leave when ever they think the grass is greener. Very sad but loyalty is a think of the past in college hoops.

A scholly wouldnt likely be wasted, because if a CREDIBLE, HONEST HC Tells a player that while he is not yanking a scholly, the player is off the team, no participation in team activities, then 99.999% chance that player would transfer, free up the scholly.

And if the player stupidly decides to stay, then if the HC makes good on kicking the player off the team, while not losing their scholly, that wouldnt be a total waste, because in the future, when, if the HC tells players that he is going to kick them off team, while on scholly, players would take him seriously, and the number of them that would transfer after being told that would go up to 100%. Also is the worst scholly player on the team is kicked off the team, while keeping their scholly, that is not that big of a loss if your as DEEP as WSU is now is.
 
Your TECHNICALLY right. But HC's almost never ever yank a scholly. They almost always encourage a player to transfer, and then if one of the players, candidates for transfering, stays, doesnt transfer, the HC is stuck with them because usually the HC wont Yank the scholly at that point, because its considered extremely bad thing to do, and they can get a lot of HEAT, flack, CRITICISM from FANS, AD, PRESIDENT, REGENTS, OTHER CONFERENCE COACHES, PLAYERS, THE NCAA, the Pac 12, other conferences.

So Yeah its technically legal that HC's can yank a scholly, but they usually wont do so.

And as proof of that, when was the last time any of us has heard of a scholly being yanked?

If have, its not very often.
This is also flat wrong. Coaches yank them all the time. Some like the Bennetts claim medical things which were written about in Dick's book, and bad backs are always a good excuse. Real Medical issues let you move the player to a non-athletic scholarship which we have also done. But that one actually had a bad back.
 
Anyone that doesn't think athletic scholarships are yanked from D-1 players routinely doesn't know anything about college sports. The reality is that it is really hard to scout high school kids and at least half the kids that are brought on campus are not going to make an impact. There is no way in hell that these coaches are just going to swallow keeping a kid in the program for 4 or 5 years just because they made a mistake. I do believe that the "nice" coaches work hard to find a good fit for them to transfer, but regardless they are out.
 
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