
Schools that have the best chance of being added to the Pac-12 - Sports Illustrated All Cardinal News, Analysis and More
In light of the Big Ten deal that didn't include ESPN there has been a path made for the Pac-12 to expand
Wait…the Pac-12 would be worried about their brand with Fresno, but not with Boise?![]()
Schools that have the best chance of being added to the Pac-12 - Sports Illustrated All Cardinal News, Analysis and More
In light of the Big Ten deal that didn't include ESPN there has been a path made for the Pac-12 to expandwww.google.com
I'm curious on this ranking: is this for all eyes on tv's at all times, or for sports in general? I would imagine that there would be a difference, though I'm not sure how or if you could measure it. I know that my viewing is almost entirely sports, with an occasional binge watch of this or that series on a streaming service, but virtually zero network or cable TV.I would agree with you, the pac 12 needs to grow or it will go.
So here are the Top 30 media markets, interesting, Football used to be about butts in the seats and still is, but now TV's are a much bigger issue.
To me you try to stay "West" which includes Texas, I do think there is a benefit to defining yourself as a Western League, So you find something in Dallas, Houston and San Diego, also you have to look at the Sacramento Stockton- Modesto market, which is Fresno St. Add these media markets, find a way to 14 teams, and you are hopefully worth 10-15 million per year, per school, not Big 10 or SEC money, but the Pac 12 has to move past the big 12 and ACC in dollars, they have to get off the bottom floor. Yes USC and UCLA are gone, but there are still a lot of TV's in LA that will be tuned into Pac 12 football without USC and UCLA. WSU recruits Texas a lot, so adding 2 schools in that State and San Diego, and you have two strong recruiting bases in your conference. It is critical to add something in So Ca, not just from a TV market stand point, but also for recruiting. So I do hope the Presidents lighten up the academic standards just a bit.
- New York (#1)
- Los Angeles (#2)
- Chicago (#3)
- Philadelphia (#4)
- Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
- San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#6)
- Atlanta (#7)
- Houston (#8)
- Washington, D.C. (Hagerstown) (#9)
- Boston (Manchester) (#10)
- Phoenix (Prescott) (#11)
- Seattle-Tacoma (#12)
- Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) (#13)
- Minneapolis-St. Paul (#14)
- Detroit (#15)
- Denver (#16)
- Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne (#17)
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale (#18)
- Cleveland-Akron (Canton) (#19)
- Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto (#20)
- Portland, OR (#21)
- Charlotte (#22)
- St. Louis (#23)
- Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville) (#24)
- Indianapolis (#25)
- Pittsburgh (#26)
- San Diego (#27)
- Baltimore (#28)
- Nashville (#29)
- Salt Lake City (#30)
Two problems with this approach:I would agree with you, the pac 12 needs to grow or it will go.
So here are the Top 30 media markets, interesting, Football used to be about butts in the seats and still is, but now TV's are a much bigger issue.
To me you try to stay "West" which includes Texas, I do think there is a benefit to defining yourself as a Western League, So you find something in Dallas, Houston and San Diego, also you have to look at the Sacramento Stockton- Modesto market, which is Fresno St. Add these media markets, find a way to 14 teams, and you are hopefully worth 10-15 million per year, per school, not Big 10 or SEC money, but the Pac 12 has to move past the big 12 and ACC in dollars, they have to get off the bottom floor. Yes USC and UCLA are gone, but there are still a lot of TV's in LA that will be tuned into Pac 12 football without USC and UCLA. WSU recruits Texas a lot, so adding 2 schools in that State and San Diego, and you have two strong recruiting bases in your conference. It is critical to add something in So Ca, not just from a TV market stand point, but also for recruiting. So I do hope the Presidents lighten up the academic standards just a bit.
- New York (#1)
- Los Angeles (#2)
- Chicago (#3)
- Philadelphia (#4)
- Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
- San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#6)
- Atlanta (#7)
- Houston (#8)
- Washington, D.C. (Hagerstown) (#9)
- Boston (Manchester) (#10)
- Phoenix (Prescott) (#11)
- Seattle-Tacoma (#12)
- Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) (#13)
- Minneapolis-St. Paul (#14)
- Detroit (#15)
- Denver (#16)
- Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne (#17)
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale (#18)
- Cleveland-Akron (Canton) (#19)
- Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto (#20)
- Portland, OR (#21)
- Charlotte (#22)
- St. Louis (#23)
- Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville) (#24)
- Indianapolis (#25)
- Pittsburgh (#26)
- San Diego (#27)
- Baltimore (#28)
- Nashville (#29)
- Salt Lake City (#30)
On your 2nd point, meant to say 10-15 million more per year, realize that is a stretch, pac 12 is 20-25 million per year, and isn’t close to the other conferences, we need to get to the upper 30’s, which is isn’t even half of what the big 10 and sec get.Two problems with this approach:
first, the fact that it’s a big market doesn’t mean it’s a big market for CFB, or that the available schools will bring the market. If we go solely by this, adding San Jose State is a no-brainer. But in reality, the don’t bring viewers or value. San Diego is the #27 market, but I think SDSU was #117 in average number of viewers.
Second, we should NOT be aiming at $10-15 million per school. We’re already getting 20-23, and the current contract is supposed to be closer to 30. The next contract should not be (cannot be) less. Any schools that are added need to either bring the average value with them, or need to accept lower compensation in this cycle.
Acouple weeks ago I found a listing of average viewership, sorted by team. I think that would be a better reference than the media market sizes. Of the top 10 highest viewership teams, only 2 (Georgia and Notre Dame) are actually in top 10 markets (although a couple other teams, like Michigan and tOSU, aren't far from them). tOSU & Michigan are #1 & #2. Georgia #5, Notre Dame #9. Alabama was #3. UW is in the #12 market, but was #38 in viewers, Oregon is near-ish the #21 market, but was #10 in viewers.On your 2nd point, meant to say 10-15 million more per year, realize that is a stretch, pac 12 is 20-25 million per year, and isn’t close to the other conferences, we need to get to the upper 30’s, which is isn’t even half of what the big 10 and sec get.
The rankings I posted were simply the size of the media markets. Needless to say WSU and most of the Big 12 don’t show up, however there are a lot of viewers for WSU and others, I assume the TV people and our commissioner had some numbers. Pitching the pac 12 as a strong market is critical, also the Pac 12 needs to find a way to win some of these key non conference games this year. Beating Florida, Georgia, and Wisconsin, would help ratings.