After a very fast paced Ist half the Ducks were never really threatened in the 2nd half. It was absurd for Oregon to be a 7th seed.
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Ducks looked great. Shot the ball well, played fantastic defense in the second half. They have a lot of weapons.
As for being a 7th seed, they probably deserved higher but I think seeding is generally overrated unless you are a #1 seed, as evidenced by all the upsets that have taken place.
Glad Cougar
As for being a 7th seed, they probably deserved higher but I think seeding is generally overrated unless you are a #1 seed, as evidenced by all the upsets that have taken place.
Glad Cougar
The problem was the experts were going by how YOUNG, and inexperienced, the Pac 12 as a whole this year was, is.
Going by just, only that, I would rank the Pac 12 the 4th to 7th toughest conference as well.
But what they overlooked was that altho young, inexperienced, there was a LOT of GOOD talent on a LOT of Pac 12 teams.
They also only remembered both the wins and losses to questionable strength of schedule(Which young and inexperienced, but talented teams do), and forgot about the 1,2,3, etc, semi good teams that some Pac 12 teams did beat.
The other problem, which really isnt the Pac 12 teams fault, is that they didnt play the Duke's, etc.
Its not their fault, because they have to play whoever they are scheduled to play.
The other factor is that the Pac 12 teams were beating each other up. Thats because there is a lot of good PARITY in the Pac 12.
Now usually in the past, such parity in the Pac 12 is usually a sign that the Pac 12 is STRONG.
I know that the Pac 12 can beat each other up, have parity, and be a weaker conference because lose to strong, weak non conference teams.
But thats not always the case.
I figured because of all the above, there was about a 50/50 chance that the Pac 12 would be strong.
Thats why I said it wouldnt surprise me if UCLA, etc, did well in the NCAA tourny.
The experts however probably wrongly had the Pac 12 as a 5% chance that Pac 12 strong, do well in NCAA tourny.
Thats not to say that I thought the Pac 12 doing well in tourny was a sure thing, as 50/50 means 50% chance Pac 12 do well, and 50% Pac 12 do bad.
But really for anybody aware of all the factors, it really shouldnt have been considered a MIRACLE that the Pac 12 is doing well in the NCAA tourny.
The ducks are super mercurial and have been known to just no show up for some reason - more than likely thinking they can flip the switch and win at any time. I'm guessing a physical east coast/ mid west team is going to push them around and they'll just tuck tail and go home.
Also True of UCLA, which why they didnt do as good as they could have.
Only USC, and Colorado have been mentally tough in their games, and dont do what UCLA and Oregon have done.
Yeah Colorado forgot to show up tonight. The only bad performance by a Pac-12 team. Oregon and UCLA did show up. Of course this is the total opposite of the wild over generalizations voiced above.
I’m not sure about this.. The ducks have made 4 of the last 5 sweet 16’s. I’m not exactly sure that’s tucking your tail... They lose to allot of good teams.. I think they have the best coach in the country..
USC destroyed Kansas by 34, 85-51. Outstanding showing by the Pac 12.
I'm not sure saying Colorado "forgot to show up" is accurate. FSU is the best, and last, ACC team in the tournament, they defend like demons with 10-deep personnel, and are fully capable of making the final four.
After watching Chicago-Loyola dismantle #1 seed Illinois and the Ducks loop-de-do of Iowa, it seems obvious to me the Big-10 is completely flummoxed by energetic, sound defensive schemes, suggesting they don't encounter said animal in their own conference. That is one thing the Pac-12 seems blessed with--a plethora of coaches who stress the defensive end, hence, tournament-ready performances.
Yes, over the past half dozen seasons the PAC (of all leagues...who woulda thunk it??) has emerged as a tough defense, solid fundamentals conference. We are playing a style now that seems a lot like the Big East was known for playing 20 years ago. Add in the recruiting benefit of being the only P5 conference in the west, and all the PAC teams have access to talent. Some more, some less, but the result is a tough league from top to bottom. The B10, from what I can see, has moved somewhat in the direction of the NBA model. That does not work consistently if you don't have enough superstars to carry the load when your lead scorer goes cold. And the top NBA teams actually do play D in the playoffs. Are the B10 teams having problems with having less emphasis on D during the season, then trying to up their D game in the tourney...?
I believe we have some of the best coaches in the country, but I think our success against other conferences is not just the defensive emphasis but the athletes.. Their is so much team speed in the pac 12 that other teams cant match up... The big 10 is made up of some fairly slow teams built on excecution and protecting the rim...The Pac-12 has a lot of positionleas teams.. Everyone can shoot dribble, attack, play D, and pass....It doesn’t matter who we play our style can still be effective..
Agree. FSU is a nightmare matchup for pretty much every team. Hamilton is a great coach.
Loyola was criminally under-seeded. They were something like No. 9 in the final KenPom ratings and I believe No. 1 in defense. They should've been a 3 seed, probably at worst. Oregon State has the hardest P12 matchup left with Loyola, and I wouldn't be surprised if Loyola made the Final Four out of the region.
I just learned today only one person on the selection committee lives on the West Coast. Much of the country has learned the P12 can play (I am also one of those people, lol), but it goes to show you, no one stays up past the mountain time zone to watch basketball and it's apparent.
USC would've probably beaten any team in the country yesterday and the scary thing is while they shot great from downtown (an efficient 11/18), they scored another 21 2PFG. They didn't live on the deep ball. Unfortunate for the conference both Oregon and USC have to match up and then play (most likely) GU. Oregon is playing great ball too, but their lack of bench may come back to haunt them next game.
UCLA is going to be a very hard out for Bama, and I think they are playing with house money. They slip past them, to have a matchup with either Michigan (down their best player) or FSU (a nightmare matchup for pretty much any team).
