Feldman reporting Dickert a strong candidate
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As long as Dickert gets at least a raise to 3 to 3.3 mil per year, and as long as Schultz, Chun, are transparent with Dickert, and as long as they continue to go down fighting for the next 1,2 years to try to stay P5, then Dickert stays for at least 1,2 more years after this season, whether or not WSU stays P5.
And if WSU either goes to Big 12, ACC, or rebuilds PAC, stays P5, then Dickert would stay for at least 3 to 6 to 9 more years.
Dickert LOVES WSU, Pullman, his players, etc. And he is EXTREMELY, FIERCELY LOYAL, GRATEFUL.
And he realizes that just like a Mark Few, PETERSON type, that he can turn WSU into a GONZAGA of football, and or into a BSU of football, etc.
Because of all that, while Dickert might semi probably leave eventually, he Dickert is semi probably not going anywhere in the next 1,2,3 years.
And because of that, the MSU thing is a WISHLIST thing on their part.
MSU is a mess I would avoid, there will be better offers in the future if he wants to leave.
Yup. Cleanup on aisle 9 for that program. Huge culture project there.
How can you give him a raise, when you don't know where your next year's paycheck is coming from?
Taking it from the dissolving assets? Having faith we're going to have $30M annual revenue versus Gloria's $6M?
How is Chun going to pull this off?
Taking it from the dissolving assets? Having faith we're going to have $30M annual revenue versus Gloria's $6M?
How is Chun going to pull this off?
He isn't unless and until clarity is obtained regarding things like the remaining assets, a path forward there, possible Big 12 membership, etc. Just not happening. Next legal proceeding isn't until November, I believe, and it's going to take a while for all this to be sorted out.
The "best case" from this and some other perspectives, and my preferred realistic path forward, would be leveraging the uncertainty over the remaining assets, Shulz's vote on the CFP, etc. to get in the Big 12 with a full share, and then deal with the Pac-12 dissolution, and the likelihood of just having to split up assets in a reasonable way, later. I don't have any more information than anyone else, but in part this is based on my impression of the infinitesimal likelihood of there actually being hundreds of millions of dollars in the Pac-12 after liabilities are accounted for, defeating tons of other players and their lawyers to keep it, having much left over, and/or having a rebuilt Pac be considered P5, all of which could take years to sort out. That's a complete shitshow and things like scheduling, recruiting, trying to keep Dickert and Arbuckle, and so on are not workable with this shit dragging on, as it will barring some kind of settlement or other resolution.
He isn’t. Unless Dick decides to turn down double his paycheck now.
Unless the OSU/WSU to the Big 12 gets announced prior to firing/hiring time, both Dickert and Smith at OSU are gone.
Not that I want Dickert going anywhere, but I don't see how MSU is more of a mess than most schools of that ilk where jobs open up. Sure, it would be better if they were looking because their coach got poached by the NFL or a blue blood, but in terms of a mild rebuild at a historically defense-focused school with resources in a region he's from and familiar with, what's so bad about it? Dumb-ass head coach screwed up and now is suing the school. He'll get some money and will go away. If anyone has experience dealing with a potentially split locker room and trying to retain players, some of whom probably are still loyal to the prior guy ....
The job would probably seem like a breeze compared to the shit Dickert has dealt with in the past few years, and now is, at WSU. On that note, I have tremendous respect for what Dickert has done this season amidst the overall shitshow.
The job would probably seem like a breeze compared to the shit Dickert has dealt with in the past few years, and now is, at WSU. On that note, I have tremendous respect for what Dickert has done this season amidst the overall shitshow.
MSU is a job where not only do you get fired if you lose but you get slimed with thin sexual harrassment allegation so they can get out of paying you.
If MSU shows up with $6,000,000 to double his salary and enough $$$ to double his staff’s salaries AND nil deals to cherry pick the best players…. is he staying?
All coaches leave WSU. Some stay longer, some stay shorter, but there are no more coaches that stay 20 years.
What does his wife think? Upper midwest people. Closer to family and lifelong friends. Removes the stress in their lives about WSU’s future. Could double their income.
All coaches leave WSU. Some stay longer, some stay shorter, but there are no more coaches that stay 20 years.
What does his wife think? Upper midwest people. Closer to family and lifelong friends. Removes the stress in their lives about WSU’s future. Could double their income.
There is, in no particular order:
General Funds. There is a lot of General Funds that don't usually fund athletics.
There is a LOT of General Funds. About 850 million. These are usually used for Academics, but permission can be obtained to use it on a EXTREMELY LIMITED basis for a athletic item.
Since it can be argued that if Dickert does not even get a SMALL pay raise, that that in THEORY, could cause Dickert to leave, for WSU to then get a Paul Wulf Coach, which would then lead WSU to Big Sky/MWC/G5, etc, which would then HURT ENROLLMENT ACADEMICS, etc.
It could be argued that it would be cheaper to use the General Funds, to help pay Dickert 4 million per year to retain him, instead of losing lots more money to the academic budget, due to lower enrollment, etc, due to ending up in Big Sky, because replaced Dickert with a Paul Wulf, etc.
Can take up a collection donation plate that spend 6 to 18 months, helping to collect all an or part of Dickert's 4 million per year.
Can instead of spending more money on stadium renovations, Facilities, etc, could instead delay, temporarily borrow from facilities budget to pay Dickert's 4 mil per year, and then after 3 to 6 to 9 seasons of 9.5 wins per year, NY6 bowl games, MORE MONEY, because of Dickert, then use THAT MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF DICKERT TO PAY BACK THE BUDGET.
Can try to set up a NIL like thing for Dickert. If Cam is worth 333k + NIL, then Dickert is surely worth 850k + NIL.
Where there is a will, there is way, and can be very creative, and use lots of different sources.
Also it's not much of an increase from the about 2.7 mil he is currently getting to 3.3 to 3.5 to 3.7 to 3.9 million.
333k to 500k to 750k, etc, increase, is a DROP IN THE BUCKET INCREASE compared to the about 93+ PLUS millions athletic budget, About 850 mil general fund, collection plate, NIL like market, etc, all combined together.
Can also probably use that 300 million - liabilities, that is probably going to go to WSU, Ore St, to pay the 333k to 900k increase in Dickert's pay.
Remember DR Larry Nassar, MSU grad and Med school grad, the USA Gymnastics Doctor who had a clinic at MSU? Has nothing to do with the football program, but MSU has a lot of crap going on. Dickert will get his money, and I think he is smart enough to stay away from MSU. They could certainly use a clean guy like Dickert, but I just don't see him jumping into that mess. If he continues on his current path, he will have better offers from programs without the baggage.
Dan Monson took the bait when Minnesota was less of a mess, but a mess. It didn't go or end well for him.
Years ago, WSU had a wrestling coach (Parker) move on to MSU. He was ultimately convicted of raping a 20-year-old. Drugged her on a date. That goes back 30 years ago. Sexual assaults are pretty rampant on college campuses. Some take it to another level though. Seems like there's something in the water at MSU.
WSU is a challenge, but many times it's the perfect spot to stick until the right opportunity comes along. Seems like MSU would be a lot of $*** to navigate.
Or maybe he chooses family over a bigger paycheck. At around $3 million, he isn't hurting.
Deeply concerned. All over the news. Spokesman Review and The Seattle Times.
How does the team show up with energy for the UCLA game, if they know their coach is interviewing and possible leaving?
Plus there is word out that the Big 12 is a NO, and the rumors, including the "Locked on Big 12" guy is "Click Bait", and just a theory.
In addition, Brett McMurphy says "No and No", regarding the Big 12.
But back to my question, how does the team show up with energy for the UCLA game, if they know their coach is interviewing and possible leaving?
How does the team show up with energy for the UCLA game, if they know their coach is interviewing and possible leaving?
Plus there is word out that the Big 12 is a NO, and the rumors, including the "Locked on Big 12" guy is "Click Bait", and just a theory.
In addition, Brett McMurphy says "No and No", regarding the Big 12.
But back to my question, how does the team show up with energy for the UCLA game, if they know their coach is interviewing and possible leaving?
1. STRONG CANDIDATE, does NOT necessarily mean that Dickert is interested, or that MSU is even interested in Dickert.
Whenever there is one of these type of coaching vacancies, the so called experts, pundits, media sources, rumor mongers, etc, start putting together list of who would be a STRONG candidate.
Many of those so called strong candidates end up either not being interested, or the college not being interested in them.
2. Just because Dickert is a STRONG Candidate, because of his resume, does not necessarily mean that he is supposedly INTERVIEWING, or has interviewed.
We don't know what's happening, being done, and because of that, it's RUMOR, CONJECTURE, until we learn something more credible, more substantial, etc.
3. The LOCKED ON BIG 12 SHOW, had on a CREDIBLE GUY named MAC(FORGET LAST NAME). This Mac IS a OFFICIAL Big 12 insider, or President of Texas(I thought I heard said on the show that he was president of Texas, etc.
Mac contradicted Brett McMurphy. Also Brett McMurphy, wasn't speaking AUTHORITATIVELY that WSU, OSU, wasn't going to Big 12. IT WAS BRETT MC MURPHY'S OPINION CONTRADICTED BY MAC'S OPINION.
4. Even if some of this stuff is true, Dickert is going to reassure them, tell them that a lot of this stuff is RUMOR, and that even if some of this stuff is true, that all they can do, should do, is focus on what they can control, etc.
Because of that, DICKERT will have them LASER FOCUSED on UCLA.
There has already been a TON of RUMORS, DISTRACTIONS, PROBLEMS, etc, and through it all, Dickert has had the team LASER FOCUSED, which is why WSU beat Wisconsin, Ore St, etc.
If maintaining focus was, and is going to be a problem for UCLA, WSU would have lost to Wisconsin, Beavers.
Also even if there is a little tiny bit slight loss of focus temporarily, UCLA is WAY OVERRATED, and their TRUE FRESHMAN QB is WAY OVERRATED, and they lost to, ONLY put up a EXTREMELY SMALL, BAD 7, SEVEN POINTS, ALL GAME LONG, vs Utah, that lost to Ore St that put up 21 points on them, that lost to WSU.
UCLA is UNRANKED for a reason. They are way overrated, they are where 5 stars go to get fat, soft.
WSU will be ranked #13,14, and they will PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
Dickert is too good a coach, maintains too good a focus, and the talent, skill, etc, is too good, etc.
WSU 30, UCLA 19
Also even if WSU, OSU is not going to Big 12, WSU, OSU can get the 300 million, and within 2 years get SDSU, BSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, USF, Gonzaga, St Mary, UConn, Villanova, and retain a hybrid P5/G5 status, get 1,2 CFP spots, 1,2 NY6 spots, 2 to 5 NCAA Tournament Bids, a 18 to 22 million per team media deal.
And if that were to happen, WSU can retain Dickert for 3,4,5 years, and still have Dickert recruit good ENOUGH to win 8,9,10,11 games a season vs SDSU, BSU, Fresno St, UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, USF, etc.
Your way overreacting.
We need to wait and see what happens.
I’m not discrediting your concern, but the locked on sports guys are clickbait and some other rumor mill about dickert interviewing isn’t?
Everybody wants to be first to a story. I’m not sure if Dickert is interviewing. I’ll say this. I wouldn’t blame him for taking a phone call given WSUs situation. I also think he’s a calculating guy and wouldn’t jump the gun at the first opportunity that came up. And MSU is no great shakes, at this point in time it’s a lateral move at best.
Conversation? Maybe. Formal interview? Highly unlikely imo. He’s leading a top 15 program and in the thick of a conference race and potential NY6/Playoff season. He doesn’t have time to interview.
That is false because it is their opinion.
We won't officially know whether get the 300 million, until after the November 14 court hearing, that's will be in Whitman County court, in front of the judge that has ALREADY ruled in WSU's, OSU's favor once already.
95, and others have PARSED the wording of the BYLAWS, and shown why WSU, OSU will probably get the 300 million.
Good point. He does tend to stay focus. It is a recruiting week, but....and we all know the MSU is a fire dumpster right now....but someone over there would video a jet or private plane, or something....like they did with Leach to Starksville. So far.....we haven't seen anything from Spartan fans with photos or videos of CJD....so...you may be right.
Again, he does stay focus, and recruiting and UCLA should be the # 1 diligent thing in his life right now....not interviewing for his next gig. But.....we are all human, and money does talk.
This stuff usually happens in November and December, as well.
Still, this is a huge distraction, we don't need, in the middle of our bye week and the UCLA game coming up.
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If these kids aren’t getting distracted by the fact that their conference imploded and they have no idea who they will be competing against next year, I doubt they’re distracted by news coming out that Dickert is a “candidate” at MSU. They seem pretty focused on the task at hand. They also have outstanding on and off field leadership with guys like Stone, Jackson.
Maybe they stay calm by not freaking out over a bunch of podcasts without basis or verification, like some fans do.
