For those that think Schultz is anti-football
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I think he hates freedom, the Statue of Liberty, apple pie, football and America.
He seems to enjoy balancing a budget though.
I don’t think he’s anti football. I think he walked in and saw debt and didn’t understand what we had to do to make the program decent.
When he walked in the door everything was already done. The football operations building the stadium. Everything was built. He walked in the door in 2016.
He didn’t see the 9-40 years. He didn’t see how poor the facilities were. He didn’t see all the hard work to get to where we are now.
He walked in the door to a University who just won the Sun Bowl and had a 9-4 season.
He walked in saw the debt and started to throw a temper tantrum about it.
I love that he’s on the CFP managers board. It’s great for WSU to have that, but he needs to be proactive about CREATING and BUILDING WSU up, not complaining that we spent money and then looking to slash and hit stuff.
He wants my support than he has to show he is all in on building the football program up even more and is creating solutions.
When he walked in the door everything was already done. The football operations building the stadium. Everything was built. He walked in the door in 2016.
He didn’t see the 9-40 years. He didn’t see how poor the facilities were. He didn’t see all the hard work to get to where we are now.
He walked in the door to a University who just won the Sun Bowl and had a 9-4 season.
He walked in saw the debt and started to throw a temper tantrum about it.
I love that he’s on the CFP managers board. It’s great for WSU to have that, but he needs to be proactive about CREATING and BUILDING WSU up, not complaining that we spent money and then looking to slash and hit stuff.
He wants my support than he has to show he is all in on building the football program up even more and is creating solutions.
This. Bingo.
Had facilities been continuously up-kept before Moos, the university wouldn't have needed to spend $160M+ to get back into the game. The "free-wheeling" spending had to happen, but now there's someone in place to try to balance it (which it needs to be balanced, not disagreeing with that). I just wish there wasn't so much finger pointing while the budget is reconciled.
Or in grown up land he was hired by the the Board of Regents under pressure from Olympia with a mandate to get the debt problems taken care of.
People who are mad at Schulz about this have a fundamental misunderstanding of how universities work.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. So you are saying you know more about this than I. OK. I'm eager to learn on this one.
So please explain. How? Are you trying to imply the budgets surrounding our sports buildings (which is what has caused our budget to explode) is somehow affected by the state legislature?
I'm OK with the university spending some of its over $200 million cash reserve on athletic facilities that were neglected for decades and on a new medical school.
I’m pleased so far. He’s taking a different approach and hitting the fundraising trail with Pat. If he gets the baseball clubhouse built and starts focusing on the IPF while continuing to build our CAF, then we all need to give him his due credit. FYI, we’ll have naming rights sold by the end of 2019. It’s coming and will be huge for the AD. They are doing what Bill Moos failed to do..... fundraise.
Do you really think the AD borrowing millions of dollars from the general fund with no clear way to service the debt didn't catch anyone's attention in Olympia?
I am too! But it wasn't planned as well as it was sold, and as a result Moos got forced out. I imagine Floyd would have too, were he still alive.
If Moos was forced out, it's kind of odd that it took everyone by surprise and the President needed to conduct a lengthy national search for his replacement.
Like everything else this is a political appointment and other Prez s wanted to concentrate on their universities. It has nothing to do with sgt schultz s "love" of football.He can raise a toast and eat lobster and steak with the best of them. Perhaps his appointment will benefit the University and he and Chun will prove to be great fundraisers.I also hope sgt schultz is a great bean counter.
I don't know that Schulz was hired because of any pressure, fiscal or otherwise, from Olympia. He was President of a similar Land grant University and was hired because of his credentials. Was being a bit of a fiscal hawk part of that? Ehh, maybe. Seems to me that our fiscal issues (not just Athletics, mind you) kind of became known as he was coming in, and when he got here. So maybe it was more luck than design.
Olympia's interest in our institutional budget problems (not just Athletics mind you) came as a result of WSU realizing what a mess we were in. Olympia didn't discover it. And the Governor appoints the Board of Regents to 4 or 6 year terms (forget which), and they hire the President. So no one in Olympia reallly has the ability to put pressure on the BOR as far as who they hire.
It appears that happy hour came early for ya, 'ol ElC. This post makes absolutely no sense. Bottoms up.
This.
Those who "can't," t̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ administrate. I learned that a long time ago in the vet school (looking squarely at you, Slinker and Bayly).
Poor word choice on my part. He was told he would his contract would not be extended. So he went looking.
Earth to Tron. Anyone who has visited Pac-10 facilities (never visited Colorado/Utah) knows that our facilities were on par or better than the rest of the Pac-10, except the University of Nike. Where we have traditionally spent less and have been under manned has been on coaching. With the new Pac-12 TV contract, the conference schools across the board decided to used that money to catch up to the swoosh. UW, Cal and Stanford out spent us, but got new/major upgrade football stadiums, but they also have much deeper pockets. Note that football wise USC, traditionally having bottom rung facilities, still has the least. The $70 Million McKay Center is a multi sports facility and would have cost $35 million had it been built in Pullman, and they still play in the Coliseum. They still have the most talented team, but are being, once again, held back by bad coaching.
Bill was out there selling his vision, not reality. You aren't going to get the Board of Regents to sign off on your "over the top" upgrades being entirely candid. Like admitting thatour then existing two floor 14,000 sq. ft. "state of the art” weight room remained among the conference's best, and that we needed to keep up with the Jones' in an upcoming building race. That what we really really needed were new athletic offices across the board, and a new sports medicine facility.
Upgrades were needed, but only because everyone else had decided to try to catch up with Uncle Phil's U. The problem is facilities don't win games, good coaches do, and at WSU even “good” isn't enough. We are more than dead broke. We are stuck with Ernie, and we can't afford to replace Leach off the "A" list, should a major school be willing to take a chance on him. Leach is not going to hand over a team loaded with talent like Price did, that a coach like Doba can win 10 games with. The new coach could easily lose big early, and often. So Schultz has/had every reason to be sheeting his pants over the debt. Because things could get much much worse, pretty quick. Let me paint a picture for you -- 3-9, half empty stands, greater deficits and Ernie Kent returning for the last year of his too expensive to fire contract.
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Wrong wrong wrong. Our facilities were most certainly not on par with the rest.
In 2010 our revenue was just 39 million.
In 2017 our revenue is now 64,294,520 (our spending was at 71.8) so the gap for the deficit is narrowing
The football complex is built. The stadium upgrades are built, and just like paying a mortgage when you buy a house that you can't afford in cash up front.... you have to make payments, and that's exactly what we are doing.
When the stadium and football operations buildings are paid off we will be making PLENTY of money.
Back at the end of 2014 you can see we had 111 million dollar bill to pay those off.
And that's exactly what we are doing
As you can see there is going to be a huge cut coming in the next 3 years as more and more of the debt is gobbled up by our debt service.
And to show you how we are doing much better than people thought. In that chart it says 2017 would be 10.6 million in the hole and it turned out to be 7.6 million.
The Pac 12 announced its best revenue yet. hitting about 30 million per school. Yes it's not SEC or B1G money, but those conferences are really vested in football and well in the Pac we are not. In the SEC a 80-100k stadium is pretty common, and they sell out... ALL THE TIME.
We are making a lot of strides and because of our success will be able to get out of it quicker than expected. Yes it sucks to have to pay for things when you don't have the money for it, but we are turning things in a positive direction and will get to enjoy all the benefits and perks to their full effect when we get the debt paid down.
But to let you know how crazy the growth has been for us.
WSU is almost making DOUBLE. DOUBLE the revenue we had in 2010. From 39 million to 71.8 million in 2017.
Now I'm not going to argue that Kent was a waste of money. Yes he is a waste currently, but his contract doesn't last forever and we will be able to fire him soon if he doesn't get it together, and when that happens we will save even more money.
Wrong wrong wrong. Our facilities were most certainly not on par with the rest.
In 2010 our revenue was just 39 million.
In 2017 our revenue is now 64,294,520 (our spending was at 71.8) so the gap for the deficit is narrowing
The football complex is built. The stadium upgrades are built, and just like paying a mortgage when you buy a house that you can't afford in cash up front.... you have to make payments, and that's exactly what we are doing.
When the stadium and football operations buildings are paid off we will be making PLENTY of money.
Back at the end of 2014 you can see we had 111 million dollar bill to pay those off.
And that's exactly what we are doing
As you can see there is going to be a huge cut coming in the next 3 years as more and more of the debt is gobbled up by our debt service.
And to show you how we are doing much better than people thought. In that chart it says 2017 would be 10.6 million in the hole and it turned out to be 7.6 million.
The Pac 12 announced its best revenue yet. hitting about 30 million per school. Yes it's not SEC or B1G money, but those conferences are really vested in football and well in the Pac we are not. In the SEC a 80-100k stadium is pretty common, and they sell out... ALL THE TIME.
We are making a lot of strides and because of our success will be able to get out of it quicker than expected. Yes it sucks to have to pay for things when you don't have the money for it, but we are turning things in a positive direction and will get to enjoy all the benefits and perks to their full effect when we get the debt paid down.
But to let you know how crazy the growth has been for us.
WSU is almost making DOUBLE. DOUBLE the revenue we had in 2010. From 39 million to 71.8 million in 2017.
Now I'm not going to argue that Kent was a waste of money. Yes he is a waste currently, but his contract doesn't last forever and we will be able to fire him soon if he doesn't get it together, and when that happens we will save even more money.
Earth to Tron...you forgot to include a pie chart.
