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Friday games and 8pm kickoffs are more effective than masks
The venn diagram of people who complain about masks and game times is a single circle.
We can all agree this is awesome news. Maybe we can keep this thread on the rails!?
Reminds me of the "shut up and tailgate" posts by AssHairCaddis on Brand X during the Paul Saban era.
They're not hitting capacity
For me personally, it's awesome news! I get to fulfill my lifelong dream of watching a game in Martin Stadium as a proud Dad with my kid by my side.
Nope. About time WSU smartened up about these BS masks and social distancing crap.
Sorry. Couldnt resist pushing off the rails hahahahahahahahaaha
I'm in Tulum Mx right now for a week. It's been interesting the levels of compliance and regulations here. Maybe 1 out of 100 gringo's wearing a mask. Higher end restaurants, masks mandatory. Dives off the beaten path (my preference) what's a mask? 😆
Metaphorically, yes.
Existentially, somewhat.
It's all a simulation anyway. Elon Musk clued me in.
Spectacular spot. Get away from Cancun, head south and it gets better and better the farther away you go.
Good time swimming with sea turtles there. Nice little spot up on the hill above the beach with tree swings and cold beer. And decent wifi.
Third time here, Observer. First for the girlfriend so got to do the mandatory chichen itza, Tulum ruins, etc. Crazy how this place has exploded in building AND prices just over the last 5 years. Side streets in the town are the only places with somewhat decent prices. But damn, getting off that plane in Cancun and taking a deep breath is glorious!
I was just in Playa del Carmen for 5 weeks starting at the end of March. I didn't make it down to Tulum. My friend came to visit from Seattle and made me promise not to go to Tulum etc until he got there...then the day we were suppposed to go, he stays out all night the night before so there went that. I'll head back down in January for sure.
How is the weather there? It started heating up when I left after the first week of May...and I heard it is the rainy season and hurricane season as well. Any issues?
Have you been to Cozumel? The snorkeling and tequila tasting package for $60 were definitely highlights. Turqoise blue water...and out of this world tequila...and I don't even like tequila...or at least what they tell us is tequila in the states. That tequila was as smooth as can be...and you could taste the agave nectar. It is Reyes tequila if that is of interest.
Oh yeah...we were discussing masks. Yeah, they made us wear them to get in anywhere in Playa...but not a whole lot of social distancing going on. They recently installed a curfew because when I was there, it was Holy week and they had a predictable outbreak.
But yeah, when I was there, it was pretty much like Texas and Florida combined. I am back in Costa Rica now and everything shuts down at 9...and you have to wear a mask and the occupancy rates in restaurants are enforced.
One cool thing about Playa, aside from the night life and live music was you get a complimentary whiskey or two while getting your hair cut.
Not a bad place to be
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HOpefully I'm not hijacking the thread here...but a funny story in Playa was when I went into the Farmacia to get a bottle of water after a night of a few beers as I didn't have any at home.
So the sweet little old lady behind the counter asks me if I would like some Viagra or Steroids to go with that.
Then she gives me her card...which at the top says Free delivery and it lists all of the goodies. So basically you can get some Valium and steroids delivered right to your door like a pizza pie 😀
Definitely a different world.
So the sweet little old lady behind the counter asks me if I would like some Viagra or Steroids to go with that.
Then she gives me her card...which at the top says Free delivery and it lists all of the goodies. So basically you can get some Valium and steroids delivered right to your door like a pizza pie 😀
Definitely a different world.
viagra and steroids = tic tacs and chicklets, lol
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Does the Huskies stadium even get full anymore? I see a pretty decent amount of empty seats whenever I flip a game on.
Do we really want to go there? I've lived in Western WA for over 35 years, and I've used the "if we had your population, we'd sell out every game argument," but it's hollow. They average twice as many fans, and as of the 2017 data, their donor contributions were $35.3M compared with our $8.2M.
I could have been an elite high school athlete, but I was 5'8 / 155lbs and not very fast. But if I had better genetics.....
Well, sure they are always gonna have a bigger stadium. But the question remains as it doesn’t seem like that stadium fills up with the regularity that it used I to.
Even in 2016 - the year they went 12-2 and landed a CFP berth - they only had 2 sellouts. So it's not just about winning.
My theory might be controversial, but here it is: college football just isn't as fun as it used to be.
Think about it:
- A significant percentage of the top 10 teams are the same from year to year.
- Since 2010, of the 110 possible season-ending top-10 spots, only 36 different teams have actually finished in the top 10.
- Only 9 teams account for more than half of those spots. 8 more teams account for another 25%. Those 17 teams all have 3+ appearances in the top 10.
- The remaining 25% of season-ending top-10 rankings (27) are divided between 19 teams, each with 1-2 appearances.
- It's even more stark if you focus on the top 5 teams
- Since 2010, of 55 possible season-ending top-5 spots, only 20 different teams have qualified.
- FIVE teams account for more than half of those (Alabama and Clemson alone are more than 25%). 4 more teams get to the 75% mark.
- The remaining 25% of spots (14) are divided between 11 different teams
- EIght teams have finished in the top 5 3+ times, and account for 71% of the ranking spots.
- Result of this is that, under the current CFP structure, it's clear from year to year that most teams have zero shot at real glory. Most teams are playing for 5th place...at best.
- Since 2010, of the 110 possible season-ending top-10 spots, only 36 different teams have actually finished in the top 10.
- Almost everyone is doing the same thing - some derivative of a pro-style offense, with some elements of RPO if they've got the athletes. It's not like the 80s & 90s when you might see teams running wishbone, veer, Air Coryell, and ground Chuck in the same season...or even in consecutive weeks.
- Add in the regular delays, reviews, TV timeouts, etc., and it's no longer unusual for a game to be in the 3-4 hour range. It's not hard to fill that time when watching on TV, but it's really just dead time when you're in the stadium.
- Because so many teams are playing the same systems, there aren't that many real upsets anymore. CFB used to be a lot more fun to watch than the NFL, because there was some truth to the "anything can happen" concept. Every year, highly ranked teams used to lose to unranked ones who either matched up well or just played out of their minds. We don't see that as much anymore - the teams who are supposed to win, usually do. The current version of "upset saturday" tends to be when #22 beats #5. Sure, it's not supposed to happen, but #22 is pretty good.
Add in recruiting. College football recruiting would be like the NFL having the 4 semifinalists draft 1-100 the next season. The best 4 teams get all the best players. The talent is not distributed equally.
If the big $ is in TV deals…. at what point do the networks demand better games? No more schedules with 4 non league games against bad teams. No schedules where the outcome was decided when the schedule was made.
What drives viewership is great games and great match ups. No one is tuning in in large numbers for WSU vs EWU. No one is gonna watch UCLA vs UNLV.
Im waiting for a day when a network offers a league a monster deal to play everyone in the league. It is essentially a TV show. At what point does a network want the best show every week? If the PAC 12 were guaranteed $50,000,000 per year, per school…. do they play all 11???
Some good thoughts here. I'd add (i) all the games for all teams on TV in HD, to the extent not already implicit in your post, and (ii) changing cultural norms generally (to, e.g., soccer, lacrosse, e-sports, video games, etc.). Attention spans also are shrinking. TV can't replace aspects of being there in the stadium, especially during big moments--I can still remember what the stadium looked and sounded like when Pole was running back that Price INT in the Apple Cup, when they shot the cannon, for example, and there have been bigger moments over the years--but the home/TV experience is vastly superior in many ways, objectively, and is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier, especially for our fans.
No, of course not. The Seahawks are #1. Problem is, UW has a professional sports type following. They don’t get super attendance numbers (no P12 teams do), but they have great TV numbers and their booster dollars are big.
But they used to. Sell out that dump, before the remodel. Every Saturday. Even when playing the cupcakes. There’s a lot of factors as some have mentioned. Just an observation I had. And obviously hope the trend continues, especially if shitty football precedes it.
I assume we all know people who were Husky lifers from the season ticket perspective, who were forced out by the higher priced season tickets that ended up mostly being paid for by companies & corporations...who frequently don't even use all of their seats unless it is a very high profile game. I suspect that is at least some part of why they no longer show a full stadium when the TV shows shots of the stands. I guess there is a certain "loss of innocence" aspect to that, but you can't deny that it puts money into the AD's budget.
That's exactly what I meant when I said UW has a professional type fan base now. My Mom (a Coug) worked for UWMC for 20 years, and during that time, she qualified for (2) discounted employee season tickets for my Dad (not a Coug). Well, around the year 2000, UW didn't just double the pricing, they increased the requirement from a few hundred dollars/year to over $5,000/year. My Dad, frugal engineer that he is, was laughing with astonishment..then he cancelled.
You're absolutely right about the loss of innocence, and they could care less. They have a core base of 50K fans/corporate interests who will pay damn near anything for tickets, and for UW, it's better to not have to deal with 80K+fans/game. Their infrastructure in Montlake doesn't support that, and the faculty and supporting neighborhoods pressure them to avoid expansion. They'll keep raising prices until the dam breaks, but with tech money flowing as freely as it is in Western WA, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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