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Great sign

Outdoor classes? All streaming classes but kids can live in dorms with daily testing? Fully wrapped meals in the dining hall?

Easy to make announcements if you don't explain how it is possible. Heck, every Univ president can look to DC to see how to make nonsense announcements and stoke unrealistic hope, opposed by paranoia and resentment if some adults in the room call BS. I guess the Idaho president needed to boost enrollment.
 
Outdoor classes? All streaming classes but kids can live in dorms with daily testing? Fully wrapped meals in the dining hall?

Easy to make announcements if you don't explain how it is possible. Heck, every Univ president can look to DC to see how to make nonsense announcements and stoke unrealistic hope, opposed by paranoia and resentment if some adults in the room call BS. I guess the Idaho president needed to boost enrollment.
Daily testing of dorm populations? Right now in most areas you still can’t get a test if you have symptoms, unless you’re severely ill and have already tested negative for flu. We’re a long, long way from precautionary testing.
 
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Funny how flatten the curve has become shut everything down until we have a cure.

Therein lies the problem with humanity. You give the medical community (and the government) an inch...and they want the whole damned mile. They'd keep us home until next year if it was their call (the medical community that works on acute care).

Of course, the flip side is accurate too. It is smart to establish some ground rules for removing stay at home orders....but people just want this sumbitch over with. Wearing a mask should be mandatory for everyone interacting indoors until June 1st. Unfortunately, we aren't good at using common sense.
 
Therein lies the problem with humanity. You give the medical community (and the government) an inch...and they want the whole damned mile. They'd keep us home until next year if it was their call (the medical community that works on acute care).

Of course, the flip side is accurate too. It is smart to establish some ground rules for removing stay at home orders....but people just want this sumbitch over with. Wearing a mask should be mandatory for everyone interacting indoors until June 1st. Unfortunately, we aren't good at using common sense.

The UN released a report saying this shutdown has put 130 million people at risk of starvation globally. A body count that high would dramatically dwarf anything covid was able to do (even in a worst case scenario). You mitigate the risks the best you can, but the world needs to reopen.
 
The UN released a report saying this shutdown has put 130 million people at risk of starvation globally. A body count that high would dramatically dwarf anything covid was able to do (even in a worst case scenario). You mitigate the risks the best you can, but the world needs to reopen.

Agree 100% that we need to get the reopening process going. As I said above, they should be requiring masks for at least a month for indoors interactions. We can't afford to extend the shutdown as long as some in the medical community would like. FWIW, my wife is a nurse who works in a hospital that specializes in "elective" surgeries. Lots of shoulders, knees, gastric bypasses, and other procedures that improve quality of life but aren't emergencies. They shut her entire hospital down and moved their staff to the main campus. It's crazy to think that a 99 bed hospital is closed right now but it made sense financially. It will re-open once the stay at home order is lifted and my wife is very eager to get away from the silliness of the main campus (which can handle almost 900 patients and newborns total). So, even some of the medical community is ready for it to be done.
 
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Say it is opened up in the fall, no vaccine are you going to the games?

It all depends on the state of affairs at the time. Things are changing on a day-to-day and week-to-week basis right now, so it's nothing more than guesswork as to what things look like 4 months from now. If I'm comfortable with the conditions 4 months from now, I'd go. Not going to waste any BTUs right now playing what ifs though.

As far as University Presidents indicating things will be up and running, I'd probably do the same. On-campus learning is probably going to look differently moving forward, so if they start figuring out a Plan A, B, and C for what that can look like, they have a decent chance to make that reality if COVID-19 stuff evolves in a positive direction or some breakthroughs happen. (It's relatively easy to call things off at the last second if things spiral downward, but almost impossible to decide at the last second to go forward with the school year if you haven't planned for it.) I believe University staff is continuing to get paid, so I don't see much downside in planning and prep towards the stated goal.
 
Say it is opened up in the fall, no vaccine are you going to the games?
No way to say at this point. If, for instance I knew from antibody tests that I already had it and was likely immune - then sure I would probably go. But I am in a high risk group so if I didn’t know any more than I do right now, then I would be staying away.
 
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