Guy walks into a bar.....

[Loyal Coug]

...in this case of course it is yours truly, the affable, friendly, non-violent Loyal.

First bar, where I usually go for the games when not at home. Guy wants $5 cover because the UCF pay per view fight is on. I'm thinking Geezus, at that moment you have Alabama, Oklahoma, Oregon, mutts all playing with our Cougs on in 10 minutes, and the place is full of guys waiting for UCF. Or MMA or whatever. Soccer maybe . But there was one tv that would have the Cougs. So I say thanks, I'll go elsewhere.

Second bar, my backup place. Some Cougs in there, game coming on the big screen (with some sound), So I'm set. Second half, I decided to stay rather than go home for the 2nd half like I often do because the excitement/stress gets too much. So early in, it was 10-10 or 13-10 or whatever. This table of semi-drunks dudes start cheering for Cal after a big Cal play, basically right in the back of my head. One in particular. These guys had no affinity to any team - just being jerks to us Cougs.

My blood pressure was already sky-high, and so despite my peaceful nature got in his face and inquired as to his university. Was it Cal? Was he from California? No and no. So I start to explain my Coug heritage and why this game is not funny, it is like life or death for us every Saturday and he and his friends are not funny. About that time his pals, one of them a fat Samoan, started getting interested.

Long story short - I was seconds away from a bad situation, and being half lit up in more than one way, it would have been ugly. Bartenders intervened and started to throw their whole crew out. They mellowed out and apologized and didn't say another word. Except the fat samoan later and I think he did get thrown out.

People just don't get it. Well because it's a Coug thing - they don't understand. Like the girlfriend of one of the Cougs. She was wearing a hat and rooting (sort of). But she freely admits that she just doesn't understand.

Neither did these guys. Thank Gawdner we won.

 

[COUGinNCW]

...in this case of course it is yours truly, the affable, friendly, non-violent Loyal.

First bar, where I usually go for the games when not at home. Guy wants $5 cover because the UCF pay per view fight is on. I'm thinking Geezus, at that moment you have Alabama, Oklahoma, Oregon, mutts all playing with our Cougs on in 10 minutes, and the place is full of guys waiting for UCF. Or MMA or whatever. Soccer maybe . But there was one tv that would have the Cougs. So I say thanks, I'll go elsewhere.

Second bar, my backup place. Some Cougs in there, game coming on the big screen (with some sound), So I'm set. Second half, I decided to stay rather than go home for the 2nd half like I often do because the excitement/stress gets too much. So early in, it was 10-10 or 13-10 or whatever. This table of semi-drunks dudes start cheering for Cal after a big Cal play, basically right in the back of my head. One in particular. These guys had no affinity to any team - just being jerks to us Cougs.

My blood pressure was already sky-high, and so despite my peaceful nature got in his face and inquired as to his university. Was it Cal? Was he from California? No and no. So I start to explain my Coug heritage and why this game is not funny, it is like life or death for us every Saturday and he and his friends are not funny. About that time his pals, one of them a fat Samoan, started getting interested.

Long story short - I was seconds away from a bad situation, and being half lit up in more than one way, it would have been ugly. Bartenders intervened and started to throw their whole crew out. They mellowed out and apologized and didn't say another word. Except the fat samoan later and I think he did get thrown out.

People just don't get it. Well because it's a Coug thing - they don't understand. Like the girlfriend of one of the Cougs. She was wearing a hat and rooting (sort of). But she freely admits that she just doesn't understand.

Neither did these guys. Thank Gawdner we won.

Loyal - Easy solution - the game was in Pullman.

 

[ATLcoug10]

This is precisely the reason I choose to watch games at home. One, I'm far into it than I should be, and shouldn't be in public for Coug games, particularly big ones. And two, I'm far too old to find myself in these types of situations... but I would have been in the same boat as you, lol.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

...in this case of course it is yours truly, the affable, friendly, non-violent Loyal.

First bar, where I usually go for the games when not at home. Guy wants $5 cover because the UCF pay per view fight is on. I'm thinking Geezus, at that moment you have Alabama, Oklahoma, Oregon, mutts all playing with our Cougs on in 10 minutes, and the place is full of guys waiting for UCF. Or MMA or whatever. Soccer maybe . But there was one tv that would have the Cougs. So I say thanks, I'll go elsewhere.

Second bar, my backup place. Some Cougs in there, game coming on the big screen (with some sound), So I'm set. Second half, I decided to stay rather than go home for the 2nd half like I often do because the excitement/stress gets too much. So early in, it was 10-10 or 13-10 or whatever. This table of semi-drunks dudes start cheering for Cal after a big Cal play, basically right in the back of my head. One in particular. These guys had no affinity to any team - just being jerks to us Cougs.

My blood pressure was already sky-high, and so despite my peaceful nature got in his face and inquired as to his university. Was it Cal? Was he from California? No and no. So I start to explain my Coug heritage and why this game is not funny, it is like life or death for us every Saturday and he and his friends are not funny. About that time his pals, one of them a fat Samoan, started getting interested.

Long story short - I was seconds away from a bad situation, and being half lit up in more than one way, it would have been ugly. Bartenders intervened and started to throw their whole crew out. They mellowed out and apologized and didn't say another word. Except the fat samoan later and I think he did get thrown out.

People just don't get it. Well because it's a Coug thing - they don't understand. Like the girlfriend of one of the Cougs. She was wearing a hat and rooting (sort of). But she freely admits that she just doesn't understand.

Neither did these guys. Thank Gawdner we won.

Struggling to figure out how the fat guy's nationality plays into this...

 

[wazzubruce]

Most on here understand this issue Loyal.

 

[chipdouglas]

...in this case of course it is yours truly, the affable, friendly, non-violent Loyal.

First bar, where I usually go for the games when not at home. Guy wants $5 cover because the UCF pay per view fight is on. I'm thinking Geezus, at that moment you have Alabama, Oklahoma, Oregon, mutts all playing with our Cougs on in 10 minutes, and the place is full of guys waiting for UCF. Or MMA or whatever. Soccer maybe . But there was one tv that would have the Cougs. So I say thanks, I'll go elsewhere.

Second bar, my backup place. Some Cougs in there, game coming on the big screen (with some sound), So I'm set. Second half, I decided to stay rather than go home for the 2nd half like I often do because the excitement/stress gets too much. So early in, it was 10-10 or 13-10 or whatever. This table of semi-drunks dudes start cheering for Cal after a big Cal play, basically right in the back of my head. One in particular. These guys had no affinity to any team - just being jerks to us Cougs.

My blood pressure was already sky-high, and so despite my peaceful nature got in his face and inquired as to his university. Was it Cal? Was he from California? No and no. So I start to explain my Coug heritage and why this game is not funny, it is like life or death for us every Saturday and he and his friends are not funny. About that time his pals, one of them a fat Samoan, started getting interested.

Long story short - I was seconds away from a bad situation, and being half lit up in more than one way, it would have been ugly. Bartenders intervened and started to throw their whole crew out. They mellowed out and apologized and didn't say another word. Except the fat samoan later and I think he did get thrown out.

People just don't get it. Well because it's a Coug thing - they don't understand. Like the girlfriend of one of the Cougs. She was wearing a hat and rooting (sort of). But she freely admits that she just doesn't understand.

Neither did these guys. Thank Gawdner we won.

Stay safe out there... defending the Cougs' honor in a bar is probably not worth getting shanked for.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Struggling to figure out how the fat guy's nationality plays into this...

Gee if he had been Russian and I said "fat Russian guy" would that offend your PC-ness? How about Finnish? What if he was Australian? Or Mongolian?

Let me spell it for you, PC-boy. Samoan - typically means a big guy. Fat Samoan - even bigger guy. And where I am at, there is a Samoan element that is known for causing trouble in bars. I have seen it first hand before, as a disinterested spectator.

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Gee if he had been Russian and I said "fat Russian guy" would that offend your PC-ness? How about Finnish? What if he was Australian? Or Mongolian?

Let me spell it for you, PC-boy. Samoan - typically means a big guy. Fat Samoan - even bigger guy. And where I am at, there is a Samoan element that is known for causing trouble in bars. I have seen it first hand before, as a disinterested spectator.

WTF is wrong with you?

Just curious because you didn't bother to list out the nationality of any of the other members of that group. And the fact that he's Samoan doesn't add to the narrative, other than to reinforce whatever prejudices you or others may have.

 

[ElComanche]

Somehow that does not surprise me again.

 

[Coug1990]

A hamburger and a hot dog walk into a bar. They saunter up to the counter. After a few minutes of standing there, they call out to the bartender for service. The bartender looks over and yells to them, "Hey,...we don't serve food here!!!"

 

[CrimsonDisciple]

Just curious because you didn't bother to list out the nationality of any of the other members of that group. And the fact that he's Samoan doesn't add to the narrative, other than to reinforce whatever prejudices you or others may have.

Actually it paints a picture. Samoans are often very large individuals. Is that a stereotype? Maybe, but it’s an effective description.

 

[chipdouglas]

Just curious because you didn't bother to list out the nationality of any of the other members of that group. And the fact that he's Samoan doesn't add to the narrative, other than to reinforce whatever prejudices you or others may have.

Is there some kind of feud between you and Loyal? Strange time and place to throw down the SJW championship belt.

 

[Coug1990]

Actually it paints a picture. Samoans are often very large individuals. Is that a stereotype? Maybe, but it’s an effective description.

I am 5'10" and 200lbs. But, I am only half Samoan. If I were full, I would be 10'20" and 400lbs.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Is there some kind of feud between you and Loyal? Strange time and place to throw down the SJW championship belt.

I'm no SJW, trust me. I abhor those self-righteous aholes.

That being said, stereotypes are dumb and negative stereotypes are dumb and ignorant. I know, Polys are violent thugs, right? Barber and Luani roam around campus looking for people to knock out, right?

All that being said, I'm done with this topic. I've said what I had to say and whatever.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Just curious because you didn't bother to list out the nationality of any of the other members of that group. And the fact that he's Samoan doesn't add to the narrative, other than to reinforce whatever prejudices you or others may have.

Well let's see. the other main guy was white. Spoke pretty good English with no apparent accent so I think he was an American. Or Canadian. Or perhaps grew up here but was any of what - a dozen European countries? Heck, he could have been Iranian - some of those guys are quite "Western looking". The rest of 'em were all similar except for a young lady who was probably American but of some ethnicity or non-European heritage, Pretty though.

Actually it paints a picture. Samoans are often very large individuals. Is that a stereotype? Maybe, but it’s an effective description.

Thank you.

A hamburger and a hot dog walk into a bar. They saunter up to the counter. After a few minutes of standing there, they call out to the bartender for service. The bartender looks over and yells to them, "Hey,...we don't serve food here!!!"

I laughed at that. Good one.

Sorry my little story caused a major racial incident on WazzuWatch. It's just a cotton-picking website after all, according to the US Agriculture Secretary.

 

[metprof]

Actually it paints a picture. Samoans are often very large individuals. Is that a stereotype? Maybe, but it’s an effective description.

As I read the original post I flashed back to a senior NCO I served with in the 10th Special Forces Group. He was E-8 Master Sergeant from American Samoa and worked in Group S-4 (supply & logistics). He was solid as a rock and tough as nails and we called him the "Samurai Supply Man" which he laughed at. We had other choice names for each member as well. Just can't mention them in mixed company.

The point of my writing is I found Loyal's post the furthest thing from being racially-tinged. It made me flash back to the past and envision a tough, strong, large character you'd rather not tussle with in a fight. How it could be construed another way is a mystery to me. It is interesting to observe people being offended on behalf of others, however.

 

[Loyal Coug]

As I read the original post I flashed back to a senior NCO I served with in the 10th Special Forces Group. He was E-8 Master Sergeant from American Samoa and worked in Group S-4 (supply & logistics). He was solid as a rock and tough as nails and we called him the "Samurai Supply Man" which he laughed at. We had other choice names for each member as well. Just can't mention them in mixed company.

The point of my writing is I found Loyal's post the furthest thing from being racially-tinged. It made me flash back to the past and envision a tough, strong, large character you'd rather not tussle with in a fight. How it could be construed another way is a mystery to me. It is interesting to observe people being offended on behalf of others, however.

Thanks man. I was thinking about something while at the store. Many (most?) countries' citizens can be visually described (or imagined) by their nationality. Samoan (I know they aren't actually a country). Japanese. Chinese. Any African country not named South. Much of South and Central America.

Then we have America. "That guy was an American!" Doesn't narrow down the visual much, does it?

Edit: Onother odd thing. We are referred to as "Americans". Even though every country in the hemisphere is in America. We aren't "United Statesians".
Canada: Canadian
Russia: Russian
Japan: Japanese
etc. etc.
England: English. or British.

 

[rufffrider]

As I read the original post I flashed back to a senior NCO I served with in the 10th Special Forces Group. He was E-8 Master Sergeant from American Samoa and worked in Group S-4 (supply & logistics). He was solid as a rock and tough as nails and we called him the "Samurai Supply Man" which he laughed at. We had other choice names for each member as well. Just can't mention them in mixed company.

The point of my writing is I found Loyal's post the furthest thing from being racially-tinged. It made me flash back to the past and envision a tough, strong, large character you'd rather not tussle with in a fight. How it could be construed another way is a mystery to me. It is interesting to observe people being offended on behalf of others, however.

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You and I had similar reactions to his story, though instead of an NCO my memory took me back to Wazzu in the early 80's and Junior Tupoala. I always got along with Junior, but he was the LAST person you wanted to piss off in a bar (which I think is the point Loyal was making). I'm pretty sure Junior would have laughed at Loyal's story.

 

[chipdouglas]

I'm no SJW, trust me. I abhor those self-righteous aholes.

That being said, stereotypes are dumb and negative stereotypes are dumb and ignorant. I know, Polys are violent thugs, right? Barber and Luani roam around campus looking for people to knock out, right?

All that being said, I'm done with this topic. I've said what I had to say and whatever.

1. Good
2. I never read Loyal's post as "Polys are violent thugs". Sounds like there is some personal baggage there.

 

[Observer11]

I don't know about racial stereotypes. I just know that way back in the day, it was not wise to consume copious amounts of alcohol around or with individuals/individuals whose parents had spent significant time in certain areas of the South Pacific. Further, it was not wise to provoke those who may have had such regional/geographic backgrounds.

Aussies, New Zealanders, Cambodians, Samoans...you just didn't want to get tangled up with those nation states. Especially after a few pops.