Here is a hypothetical: WSU hosting a CFP game @ home

[ttowncoug]

First off, let's say this is going to happen at some point. Win the conference and you are in scenario.

The way I read it is teams that host the first round will be at home, the weekend before Christmas. So the obvious is: you host in Pullman to get the home field advantage.

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out when teams in northern areas (prone to winter weather) host southern schools. I like it, just like the pros, you play whereever, but you can see the SEC and others not liking it.

 

[Coug90]

F em. Win your games then.

I think it’s awesome, football should be played in unpredictable football weather.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

First off, let's say this is going to happen at some point. Win the conference and you are in scenario.

The way I read it is teams that host the first round will be at home, the weekend before Christmas. So the obvious is: you host in Pullman to get the home field advantage.

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out when teams in northern areas (prone to winter weather) host southern schools. I like it, just like the pros, you play whereever, but you can see the SEC and others not liking it.

Honestly, I would not want WSU to host a CFP game on the weekend before Christmas. First, all BS aside, our offense has generally been more productive in good weather conditions. Second, we all know that our fan support is more fickle than we'd like to believe and it would be embarrassing AF to have our playoff game played in front of 28,000 fans.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Honestly, I would not want WSU to host a CFP game on the weekend before Christmas. First, all BS aside, our offense has generally been more productive in good weather conditions. Second, we all know that our fan support is more fickle than we'd like to believe and it would be embarrassing AF to have our playoff game played in front of 28,000 fans.

If that many. That late means no RV crowd, no students. One thing I always found funny is that college football whines about the wintry conditions, but the NFL plays into January in them. Buffalo, Green Bay, etc.

 

[ttowncoug]

Honestly, I would not want WSU to host a CFP game on the weekend before Christmas. First, all BS aside, our offense has generally been more productive in good weather conditions. Second, we all know that our fan support is more fickle than we'd like to believe and it would be embarrassing AF to have our playoff game played in front of 28,000 fans.

Then do you play the same in Seattle...? That would draw more (both team fan bases) and increase the gate draw.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Then do you play the same in Seattle...? That would draw more (both team fan bases) and increase the gate draw.

F’ing amazing.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Then do you play the same in Seattle...? That would draw more (both team fan bases) and increase the gate draw.

Hate to spout blasphemy, but that is a good idea. Pullman around Xmas can be really nasty, Maybe Popcorn guy would show up in Seattle.

 

[Coug90]

Honestly, I would not want WSU to host a CFP game on the weekend before Christmas. First, all BS aside, our offense has generally been more productive in good weather conditions. Second, we all know that our fan support is more fickle than we'd like to believe and it would be embarrassing AF to have our playoff game played in front of 28,000 fans.

While i get where you are coming from Flat, I think you underestimate the fan support relative to the importance of the game. Apple cups aren’t always sold out. Several recent ones were played on Black Friday. But the ones that really mattered, p12 CG on the line were packed houses, even night games on Black Friday.

I’d be willing to bet if we hosted a playoff game before Christmas we’d see the same.

 

[Coug90]

Then do you play the same in Seattle...? That would draw more (both team fan bases) and increase the gate draw.

Uh…hell no.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Hate to spout blasphemy, but that is a good idea. Pullman around Xmas can be really nasty, Maybe Popcorn guy would show up in Seattle.

F’ing terrible idea.

In this hypothetical scenario, you two f’ing idiots would take a playoff game away from home… ruin a chance for media in Pullman, ruin a chance for exposure for WSU in Pullman, for Seattle.

I have seen it all. You two are losers. WSU is better off without both of you and anyone else that thinks taking a playoff game out of Pullman and playing it in Seattle is a good idea.

 

[Coug90]

F’ing terrible idea.

In this hypothetical scenario, you two f’ing idiots would take a playoff game away from home… ruin a chance for media in Pullman, ruin a chance for exposure for WSU in Pullman, for Seattle.

I have seen it all. You two are losers. WSU is better off without both of you and anyone else that thinks taking a playoff game out of Pullman and playing it in Seattle is a good idea.

This poster (me) supports home games being in Pullman

 

[ttowncoug]

F’ing terrible idea.

In this hypothetical scenario, you two f’ing idiots would take a playoff game away from home… ruin a chance for media in Pullman, ruin a chance for exposure for WSU in Pullman, for Seattle.

I have seen it all. You two are losers. WSU is better off without both of you and anyone else that thinks taking a playoff game out of Pullman and playing it in Seattle is a good idea.

If no one shows up in Pullman -- not sure I'm of the same opinion - but speaking hypotheticals, would you put a half empty stadium on national TV if you were Pat Chun?

I know they wouldn't move the game, and I think the stadium would be full to see a top notch team in cold weather Pullman, but if you really believe no one is showing up, I think you have to consider alternatives. That's just facing reality unfortunately.

 

[Coug90]

If no one shows up in Pullman -- not sure I'm of the same opinion - but speaking hypotheticals, would you put a half empty stadium on national TV if you were Pat Chun?

I know they wouldn't move the game, and I think the stadium would be full to see a top notch team in cold weather Pullman, but if you really believe no one is showing up, I think you have to consider alternatives. That's just facing reality unfortunately.

T- nobody loves half empty stadiums as much as Biggs…but it’s still a bad idea, you play your home games at home and you have some faith in your fan base, along with some creativity if need be to get the stadium full. Yeah late season games aren’t pretty when we are mediocre and early season over Labor Day weekend suck when we are playing D3 schools. But when the game is big, the alumni and students will show up from what I’ve seen.

 

[BiggsCoug]

If no one shows up in Pullman -- not sure I'm of the same opinion - but speaking hypotheticals, would you put a half empty stadium on national TV if you were Pat Chun?

I know they wouldn't move the game, and I think the stadium would be full to see a top notch team in cold weather Pullman, but if you really believe no one is showing up, I think you have to consider alternatives. That's just facing reality unfortunately.

I do not believe the stadium would be half full for a f’ing playoff game in Pullman. But even if that was going to happen, I 100% keep it in Pullman.

The absolute last thing I want is the game on TV showing footage of Seattle and nothing about Pullman and WSU.

The idea that this is even an option is atrocious. It is the definition of loser. Holy shit.

 

[BiggsCoug]

This poster (me) supports home games being in Pullman

You are a piece of shit human being that defends rapists. Fck off.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

T- nobody loves half empty stadiums as much as Biggs…but it’s still a bad idea, you play your home games at home and you have some faith in your fan base, along with some creativity if need be to get the stadium full. Yeah late season games aren’t pretty when we are mediocre and early season over Labor Day weekend suck when we are playing D3 schools. But when the game is big, the alumni and students will show up from what I’ve seen.

Hate to disagree, but no they won't. Students are home for the holidays. Yeah the Pullman locals and Spokane crowd (depending on road conditions) would show up. That's maybe half the stadium. If that.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

You are a piece of shit human being that defends rapists. Fck off.

Geezus Christ buddy give it a rest. How long are you going to pollute this board with your rants?

 

[Coug90]

Hate to disagree, but no they won't. Students are home for the holidays. Yeah the Pullman locals and Spokane crowd (depending on road conditions) would show up. That's maybe half the stadium. If that.

For a playoff game? Something thats never happened in at WSU? 85% of those students are a 4 1/2 hour drive away. Enough would want to go and the alumni would show. Like I said they show up for big ACs in shitty weather Friday during TGiving week. It would sell out.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

For a playoff game? Something thats never happened in at WSU? 85% of those students are a 4 1/2 hour drive away. Enough would want to go and the alumni would show. Like I said they show up for big ACs in shitty weather Friday during TGiving week. It would sell out.

This is correct.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Don't quite understand the lack of faith in Cougar football fans by Cougar fans.

Name any other power conference school(s) that would even consider moving a home playoff game a few hundred miles away from campus. Their coaches and season-ticket holders would riot outside the president's house at even the mention of such a thing.

A home playoff game is a perfect scenario for why Biggs, Tron and others have called for the expansion of Martin Stadium to 50- to 60,000-plus.

Martin State seats nearly 33,000 right now. Scalpers would have field day for a playoff game if a Michigan or Oklahoma or Notre Dame came to Pullman for a do-or-die playoff game.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Don't quite understand the lack of faith in Cougar football fans by Cougar fans.

Name any other power conference school(s) that would even consider moving a home playoff game a few hundred miles away from campus. Their coaches and season-ticket holders would riot outside the president's house at even the mention of such a thing.

A home playoff game is a perfect scenario for why Biggs, Tron and others have called for the expansion of Martin Stadium to 50- to 60,000-plus.

Martin State seats nearly 33,000 right now. Scalpers would have field day for a playoff game if a Michigan or Oklahoma or Notre Dame came to Pullman for a do-or-die playoff game.

It’s because WSU has loser fans.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Honestly, I would not want WSU to host a CFP game on the weekend before Christmas. First, all BS aside, our offense has generally been more productive in good weather conditions. Second, we all know that our fan support is more fickle than we'd like to believe and it would be embarrassing AF to have our playoff game played in front of 28,000 fans.

With all due respect Flatty, a home playoff game in Pullman would produce an absolutely bonkers environment equivalent to GameDay or an Apple Cup with a Rose Bowl bid on the line for the Cougs.

I think you might be underestimating how fired up the fan base would be for such an event.

WSU could sell 55,000 tickets. Heck, a big-name visiting team alone easily snap up 10k.

 

[PeteTheChop]

If no one shows up in Pullman -- not sure I'm of the same opinion - but speaking hypotheticals, would you put a half empty stadium on national TV if you were Pat Chun?

C'mon T-Town ... have faith

You know you and your fellow wet siders from the 206/253/425/360/564 are not missing a chance to see a playoff game at Martin Stadium.

This isn't the Frosted Flakes Bowl against a directional school from Michigan or the Cheetos Bowl against Fresno State.

I bet you'd catch an Uber if that's what it took to get to a playoff game in Pullman 😁

 

[Flatlandcoug]

With all due respect Flatty, a home playoff game in Pullman would produce an absolutely bonkers environment equivalent to GameDay or an Apple Cup with a Rose Bowl bid on the line for the Cougs.

I think you might be underestimating how fired up the fan base would be for such an event.

WSU could sell 55,000 tickets. Heck, a big-name visiting team alone easily snap up 10k.

I love the idea of a full Martin Stadium and I'd be excited if we hosted a game, but I just have no faith in Coug fans showing up. And Biggs can go eat a dick. I've probably been to more WSU games in the past 10 years than he has in the past 30 and I live halfway across the country. At least I know what the inside of Martin Stadium looks like since it's been renovated. Unlike his sorry ass, I'd actually be in the stadium if we hosted a playoff game.

 

[Coug90]

I love the idea of a full Martin Stadium and I'd be excited if we hosted a game, but I just have no faith in Coug fans showing up. And Biggs can go eat a dick. I've probably been to more WSU games in the past 10 years than he has in the past 30 and I live halfway across the country. At least I know what the inside of Martin Stadium looks like since it's been renovated. Unlike his sorry ass, I'd actually be in the stadium if we hosted a playoff game.

C’Mon Flat, how would Biggs not be in the stadium? The only way we are making the playoffs is if Biggs is the head coach!

 

[PeteTheChop]

C’Mon Flat, how would Biggs not be in the stadium? The only way we are making the playoffs is if Biggs is the head coach!

Better start donating

Biggs isn't taking job until Martin Stadium seats 65k

 

[Loyal Coug1]

I love the idea of a full Martin Stadium and I'd be excited if we hosted a game, but I just have no faith in Coug fans showing up. And Biggs can go eat a dick. I've probably been to more WSU games in the past 10 years than he has in the past 30 and I live halfway across the country. At least I know what the inside of Martin Stadium looks like since it's been renovated. Unlike his sorry ass, I'd actually be in the stadium if we hosted a playoff game.

Christmas week, No F-ing way. Students on break will not brave the pass for this. Local fans and nearby alums would come. I've been going to games since before 1982 and think I get it. 95% of fans would sit at home and watch it on TV. Hello? Why is the G-damn media deal so important? Duh - people want to sit on the couch and watch the games. The old days are gone.

 

[95coug]

I don’t think most of you are looking at this accurately.

First, depending on how the calendar falls, if it’s the week before Christmas, students may not be on break yet. They might have to stay an extra day or two, but they would t have to come back early.

Second, does anyone really believe that tickets would be distributed as normal? I’m positive we’d be required to give the visitor more tickets. We’d probably pare down the student section to try to sell more seats.

Third, first round games in a lot of places could be undersold. Fans of some teams - especially the ones that expect to keep playing - are going to wait to travel until later. They’re not going to pay last minute airfare to Spokane or Pullman for a first round game.

Fourth, none of this will change if it was played in Seattle. It would probably sell more tickets, but would make less money…and we’d piss away home field.

Fifth, nobody really cares about tickets sold anymore. It’s all about TV sets. There would be enough in attendance to get some crowd shots.

Sixth, this will happen exactly once. First time an SEC team has to travel to Pullman, Corvallis, Buffalo, Madison, or any other cold weather location, the next season they’ll get a rule change that first round games are at neutral sites.

 

[rufffrider]

Christmas week, No F-ing way. Students on break will not brave the pass for this. Local fans and nearby alums would come. I've been going to games since before 1982 and think I get it. 95% of fans would sit at home and watch it on TV. Hello? Why is the G-damn media deal so important? Duh - people want to sit on the couch and watch the games. The old days are gone.

I disagree. I think Coug fans are great about showing up for the big things at our doorstep (apple cups, espn game day, ...) but fail at the "day in, day out" support. I believe a football playoff game in Pullman is a packed house. It's also an opportunity to showcase what's special about Pullman. If everyone gets behind it, that opportunity can be hugely successful. If they/we don't, it can flop.

Either way, if our football team is in the position to host a playoff game at home, we take that opportunity every day of the week because it gives our team an advantage. It's as simple as that. If the rest of the clown show (admin, alumni, and fans) can't quite stretch the big top over our circus to make the periphery crap successful, that's on us.

That opportunity is the primary reason for the previous 5 months of blood, sweat and tears shed by that football team.

 

[Coug90]

Better start donating

Biggs isn't taking job until Martin Stadium seats 65k

Chicken or egg. Step 1, add 30K bleachers. Step two, Fire Dickfore and hire Biggs. Step 3, make playoffs. Step 4, 40,000 Coug fans watch Cougs win in the comfort of a 65K seat stadium. Step 5, repeat step 4 until Biggs gets bored.

 

[Stretch 74]

I don’t think most of you are looking at this accurately.

First, depending on how the calendar falls, if it’s the week before Christmas, students may not be on break yet. They might have to stay an extra day or two, but they would t have to come back early.

Second, does anyone really believe that tickets would be distributed as normal? I’m positive we’d be required to give the visitor more tickets. We’d probably pare down the student section to try to sell more seats.

Third, first round games in a lot of places could be undersold. Fans of some teams - especially the ones that expect to keep playing - are going to wait to travel until later. They’re not going to pay last minute airfare to Spokane or Pullman for a first round game.

Fourth, none of this will change if it was played in Seattle. It would probably sell more tickets, but would make less money…and we’d piss away home field.

Fifth, nobody really cares about tickets sold anymore. It’s all about TV sets. There would be enough in attendance to get some crowd shots.

Sixth, this will happen exactly once. First time an SEC team has to travel to Pullman, Corvallis, Buffalo, Madison, or any other cold weather location, the next season they’ll get a rule change that first round games are at neutral sites.

I think you nailed it with this:
Third, first round games in a lot of places could be undersold. Fans of some teams - especially the ones that expect to keep playing - are going to wait to travel until later. They’re not going to pay last minute airfare to Spokane or Pullman for a first round game.

That is exactly what I was thinking would happen with a first round game in Pullman featuring Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Clemson, Bama, etc. Their fans would be extremely confident of a victory and would be saving their money and efforts for the next round game. Especially if the forecast was for nasty weather.

Sadly, I am afraid many Cougar fans would be doing the same thing if the forecast was for bad weather, snow, cold, ice. With a televised game why risk injury or death to travel to Pullman in a big storm. Clear and 20 degrees? Sure, many would make the journey, but weather would absolutely affect attendance by both teams fans.

The effect would not be as dramatic for the exact same weather conditions in Seattle, but I am absolutely not in any way recommending giving away home field advantage by moving the game to the Seahawks facility in order to attract a few more fans. No way, no how!

 

[Coug90]

I think you nailed it with this:
Third, first round games in a lot of places could be undersold. Fans of some teams - especially the ones that expect to keep playing - are going to wait to travel until later. They’re not going to pay last minute airfare to Spokane or Pullman for a first round game.

That is exactly what I was thinking would happen with a first round game in Pullman featuring Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Clemson, Bama, etc. Their fans would be extremely confident of a victory and would be saving their money and efforts for the next round game. Especially if the forecast was for nasty weather.

Sadly, I am afraid many Cougar fans would be doing the same thing if the forecast was for bad weather, snow, cold, ice. With a televised game why risk injury or death to travel to Pullman in a big storm. Clear and 20 degrees? Sure, many would make the journey, but weather would absolutely affect attendance by both teams fans.

The effect would not be as dramatic for the exact same weather conditions in Seattle, but I am absolutely not in any way recommending giving away home field advantage by moving the game to the Seahawks facility in order to attract a few more fans. No way, no how!

Weather can affect attendance at any game anywhere. Assuming typical weather for that time of year…it’s cold, likely clear, maybe a snow shower. You’ve got a 5% chance of a weather event significantly impacting attendance…blizzard, high winds, etc. If people are gonna go to a game like this when it’s 50 and sunny, they are gonna go when it’s 28 and snow flurries.

 

[ttowncoug]

Weather can affect attendance at any game anywhere. Assuming typical weather for that time of year…it’s cold, likely clear, maybe a snow shower. You’ve got a 5% chance of a weather event significantly impacting attendance…blizzard, high winds, etc. If people are gonna go to a game like this when it’s 50 and sunny, they are gonna go when it’s 28 and snow flurries.

I think what WSU should do in the playoff scenario is sell all tickets, namely students. This would give us a clear headcount on which students are going and also allow student seating blocks to be opened up to the public.

 

[Coug90]

I think what WSU should do in the playoff scenario is sell all tickets, namely students. This would give us a clear headcount on which students are going and also allow student seating blocks to be opened up to the public.

That’s what i would anticipate. Same as they do for bowl games.

 

[95coug]

I think it's likely that we'd be required to hand over some number of tickets for the visiting students, and expected to have some for our own too.

 

[whoisyaodaddy]

Then do you play the same in Seattle...? That would draw more (both team fan bases) and increase the gate draw.

I think a playoff game in Pullman would equal or better the atmosphere of Game Day in Pullman. This would be a rare, RARE event. Fans would show....I don't care what the weather looks like. It would be like the Rose Bowl in '97 all over again!

 

[Loyal Coug1]

I think a playoff game in Pullman would equal or better the atmosphere of Game Day in Pullman. This would be a rare, RARE event. Fans would show....I don't care what the weather looks like. It would be like the Rose Bowl in '97 all over again!

No way buddy. We'd get about 15,000, the rest at home sipping on eggnog.

 

[Coug90]

No way buddy. We'd get about 15,000, the rest at home sipping on eggnog.

Nope. You’d be home sipping eggnog and you’d be pissed after the fact that you didn’t go. It sucks that our school is so remote to our fan base and students home towns that we can’t sell out the Labor Day opener against Montana Tech in perfect weather. But when it’s a big game the students and the fans show up. This would be the biggest game on campus. Ever.

 

[Cougini5591]

I do not believe the stadium would be half full for a f’ing playoff game in Pullman. But even if that was going to happen, I 100% keep it in Pullman.

The absolute last thing I want is the game on TV showing footage of Seattle and nothing about Pullman and WSU.

The idea that this is even an option is atrocious. It is the definition of loser. Holy shit.

How the flying f*ck anyone would EVER take away from being at WSU amazes me.

WSU games should always be at WSU.

You can't compete in women's sports if you have/had a penis.

 

[BiggsCoug]

How the flying f*ck anyone would EVER take away from being at WSU amazes me.

WSU games should always be at WSU.

You can't compete in women's sports if you have/had a penis.

And this is why I call WSU fans losers. It is that mentality that holds WSU back.