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How did we beat Oregon State and Wisconsin?

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It almost seems like this is two different seasons. A completely different team before the bye week.
I’m still holding hope that we win three more games.
 
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Because those teams aren't very good.
Not sure that’s true. OSU just handled UCLA, who handled us. Wisconsin doesn’t have an impressive win, but they’re 4-2 and are a likely bowl team.

OP seems right. Something is different after the bye. Our heads aren’t in the game.
 
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Looks to me like neither OSU or Wisconsin did anything different with their defenses. UCLA and Zona both made changes in alignment and scheme that weren’t on tape and Arbuckle and the offense shat themselves. If that’s all you have to do to grind this offense to a halt…we’re F’d Zero adjustments to counter. The easy fix it would seem would be to run some quick hitters into the soft box’s but that type of run doesn’t seem to exist in the playbook and not sure we could block it anyways.
 
It does look like two different offenses.
Ward was throwing darts and now he doesn't look confident
Regarding the o-line....CML apparently took 5 in each class. He may not have had the best running numbers but the QB had time to pass

Cougs still have time to right the ship and they have 4 games which they still might be favored
 
It does look like two different offenses.
Ward was throwing darts and now he doesn't look confident
Regarding the o-line....CML apparently took 5 in each class. He may not have had the best running numbers but the QB had time to pass

Cougs still have time to right the ship and they have 4 games which they still might be favored
Leachs teams had great running numbers when they decided to run it. Against everyone not named UW you could just about guarantee 5 yards was there in a 5 man box. Those OLines had guys that wanted to hit someone though. Over the last two weeks this group has proven to be the opposite.
 
Coach him, clearly no progress has been made with him
Wow. Amazing wisdom here. I figured Arbuckle was just crushing brews all week then sobered up on Saturdays for a few hours.

Did you watch the first four games? Did you see progress in those? Do you expect progress to be a nice linear improvement every week?
 
Wow. Amazing wisdom here. I figured Arbuckle was just crushing brews all week then sobered up on Saturdays for a few hours.

Did you watch the first four games? Did you see progress in those? Do you expect progress to be a nice linear improvement every week?
This isnt progress, its regression. Jack Thompson came off the bench , a thitd stringer. According to you he should have stayed there since he wasnt the best qb
 
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This isnt progress, it’s regression. Jack Thompson came off the bench , a thitd stringer. According to you he should have stayed there since he wasnt the best qb
So, you expect linear upward progression every week no matter the opponent. And assuming you believe Mateer is the savior, you saw him throw the pick on the double pass, right?
 
So, you expect linear upward progression every week no matter the opponent. And assuming you believe Mateer is the savior, you saw him throw the pick on the double pass, right?
Cmon Gibbons he was a WR on that play!
 
Replacing Ward could make a difference, but I don't think it will. Our offensive line is awful, and our running game is laughably inadequate. I can't believe how slow we are at RB. I watched the Idaho/Montana game on Saturday night, and there were at least 3 backs on the field who could start for us. How does a D1 program with the recent offensive success that we've had not have at least a small, quick running back to keep defenses honest? We hit Watson on wide open check downs in the flat, and he takes 10 seconds to turn around and gather himself.

Oregon State has a much more slump proof offense than we do. They run a system that mirrors Chris Peterson's at Boise and UW. They have 2 quality running backs and B!G caliber offensive line. We jumped on them early, and Ward and the WRs played a nearly perfect game. The Beavs still almost beat us. They were running ball at will when they wanted to. They're the perfect matchup against UCLAs defense, as they ran the ball right at them. Same with Utah. I like the Beavs, but they finish their season with UW and Oregon back-to-back. I can't see them winning either of those games.
 
Replacing Ward could make a difference, but I don't think it will. Our offensive line is awful, and our running game is laughably inadequate. I can't believe how slow we are at RB. I watched the Idaho/Montana game on Saturday night, and there were at least 3 backs on the field who could start for us. How does a D1 program with the recent offensive success that we've had not have at least a small, quick running back to keep defenses honest? We hit Watson on wide open check downs in the flat, and he takes 10 seconds to turn around and gather himself.

Oregon State has a much more slump proof offense than we do. They run a system that mirrors Chris Peterson's at Boise and UW. They have 2 quality running backs and B!G caliber offensive line. We jumped on them early, and Ward and the WRs played a nearly perfect game. The Beavs still almost beat us. They were running ball at will when they wanted to. They're the perfect matchup against UCLAs defense, as they ran the ball right at them. Same with Utah. I like the Beavs, but they finish their season with UW and Oregon back-to-back. I can't see them winning either of those games.
They can beat oregon if lanning keeps going for it
 
So, you expect linear upward progression every week no matter the opponent. And assuming you believe Mateer is the savior, you saw him throw the pick on the double pass, right?
That play was pretty horrific. He had time I think, should have gone to another receiver (if there were any) or ran it. Not even a good throw.

That said, the guy gets in there for a usually trick play once or twice a game. I Imagine he had the play down - roll out and hit the guy deep. So he did (or tried). I would like to see him put in for a real, full series. One that doesn't involve planned QB sneaks.
 
That play was pretty horrific. He had time I think, should have gone to another receiver (if there were any) or ran it. Not even a good throw.

That said, the guy gets in there for a usually trick play once or twice a game. I Imagine he had the play down - roll out and hit the guy deep. So he did (or tried). I would like to see him put in for a real, full series. One that doesn't involve planned QB sneaks.
Should have just tucked and run.
 
Should have just tucked and run.
That's what I said. Again, they throw the kid in for these random trick plays. Give him a chance to run a real series with real plays. And not what Price did to Kegel. Run, QB draw, swing pass. Every time.
 
The best part of the Arizona game for me (other than the first drive) was watching Mateer run the offense in garbage time and seeing a QB attempt to read defenses and Paine running downhill without hesitation into the defensive line. Would have be nice to see ore of that since the previous Ward series became so tentative predictable.
 
That play was pretty horrific. He had time I think, should have gone to another receiver (if there were any) or ran it. Not even a good throw.

That said, the guy gets in there for a usually trick play once or twice a game. I Imagine he had the play down - roll out and hit the guy deep. So he did (or tried). I would like to see him put in for a real, full series. One that doesn't involve planned QB sneaks.
Pat Mahomes is the bane of good quarterback play. Every kid now thinks they can/ should throw 3/4 or sidearm while falling backwards.

Mateer had all day to set his feet and could have and should have delivered a dime over the WR's shoulder.
 
Replacing Ward could make a difference, but I don't think it will. Our offensive line is awful, and our running game is laughably inadequate. I can't believe how slow we are at RB. I watched the Idaho/Montana game on Saturday night, and there were at least 3 backs on the field who could start for us. How does a D1 program with the recent offensive success that we've had not have at least a small, quick running back to keep defenses honest? We hit Watson on wide open check downs in the flat, and he takes 10 seconds to turn around and gather himself.

Oregon State has a much more slump proof offense than we do. They run a system that mirrors Chris Peterson's at Boise and UW. They have 2 quality running backs and B!G caliber offensive line. We jumped on them early, and Ward and the WRs played a nearly perfect game. The Beavs still almost beat us. They were running ball at will when they wanted to. They're the perfect matchup against UCLAs defense, as they ran the ball right at them. Same with Utah. I like the Beavs, but they finish their season with UW and Oregon back-to-back. I can't see them winning either of those games.
We are apparently not capable of recruiting an excellent running back or getting one to transfer in.

Just once I'd love to have a running back the caliber that OSU gets regularly. I assume that running the Air Raid makes this very unlikely. But I'd take a Jamal Morrow again any day of the week.
 
Not sure that’s true. OSU just handled UCLA, who handled us. Wisconsin doesn’t have an impressive win, but they’re 4-2 and are a likely bowl team.

OP seems right. Something is different after the bye. Our heads aren’t in the game.

Looking back to Dickert’s comments to the press after we beat the Beavers, did he inadvertently change the focus of the team from what had carried them to 4-0?

Up to then, his mantra had been all about the coaches and players staying focused on each game, working hard, and ignoring the noise around the collapse of the Pac 12 because that was out of their control.

After the Beav game, did his calling out ESPN change that? As a fan, I loved it. But combined with the less intensive bye week, are the coaches and players getting more distracted by the uncertain future of Cougar athletics?
 
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Just beat the Dogfaces & all is right in the world again.

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