How does Inslee’s mandate change things for Rolo
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He’s getting the mandated vaccination, so this was all completely overblown, as usual. He held out as long as he could.
As for those of you who were concerned about the “irreparable damage” Rolo was doing to the program, consider this. Currently, African Americans are getting vaccinated about half as frequently as whites. I can make an argument than most of our players empathize with Rolo’s stance on this issue.
As for those of you who were concerned about the “irreparable damage” Rolo was doing to the program, consider this. Currently, African Americans are getting vaccinated about half as frequently as whites. I can make an argument than most of our players empathize with Rolo’s stance on this issue.
This, AMEN. If a legislature passes it that's one thing, and the Supreme Court, court system can determine if said law is constitutional or not.
It's when either a Governor or President does a UNCONSTITUTIONAL, DICTATOR, EXECUTIVE FiAAT that it's bad
Now if the legislature, courts, grant limited, temporary EMERGENCY powers for a specific limited duration, in a actual emergency, like SMALL POX, etc, then like the WAR POWERS emergency acts, then it would be ok.
But the problem with Inslee and Newsome, is that the legislature never gave such power, and never RATIFIED, what Inslee did, and it has lasted 2, TWO years(The lockdowns, mask mandates, etc)
If the legislature, Ratified or passed these emergency measures, and if the courts say it constitutional, and if it really is constitutional, and not just activist judges falsely saying so politically, them I would be ok with it.
It's the job of the congress, legislature to pass these kind of laws, and it's the job of the Governor, President to sign these bills into law, and to ASK the congress, legislature to pass these laws.
It's not the job of the Governor, President to be a KING, DICTATOR.
And the problem with KING INSLEE, is he is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY being a KING, DICTATOR, that is ignoring rules, laws, Procedures, Processes, Constitution, etc
Not overblown at all. Staring down your HFC being fired mid season isnt a small deal.
Some schools can handle having 3 diff head coaches in 3 years. Some cannot. Which is WSU?
The school that has a lot of fan that like to live in black and white hypothetical worlds?
It's overblown from the standpoint that Rolo was completely upfront with his vax status and decision from the beginning, and now that the vaccine is mandatory, he conceded that he'll comply.
He did absolutely nothing wrong throughout this situation. He didn't lie, he didn't tweet about his reasons why, and in the end, he's going to comply.
Well, those same presidents do things like hire Hugh Freeze, Rick Neuheisel, Steve Sarkisian and Lane Kiffin. Art Briles was coaching HS ball.
Maybe Historian Ed doesn’t keep up with recent history.
Patrol I’ll bite. One, other than our loyalty and love for the Cougs, what does WSU bring to the conference financially ? Do you think There are 15 to 20 other options for the Pac 12 to seek better revenue streams for partnering up with another team or two?
Of 12 conference members who was the one school who couldn’t attend media day because they were only one not vaxed ?
Nationally the last year WSU made the headline once . Guess the story ….
I am sitting around a friends fire pit . Not one of them are huge college fans. Seven other people knew the story and said how embarrassing it must be, with the one person said they should fire him immediately . It is important for perception and also important to the new commissioner .
So yeah it is about something ….but if your point is about nothjng short term ie next 8 weeks yeah I agree once he gets his shot.
Yeah he technically, legally didnt do anything wrong, except he did offend HALF the people cause negative PR, harmed recruiting, donations.
Not smart.
Not even anti vax Mike Leach was that stupid, and at least said no comment, and didnt tell everyone that hecwas not vaxxing.
To bad Rolo wasnt smart enough to followcMike Leach's lead in that, since they are friends
He did everything wrong. He brought unwanted attention to the school and the program. Is this what Chun and Schultz had in mind when they hired him? Doubtful. Is this how Chun and Schultz wanted their school and program represented at media days? No way.
He is amateur hour when dealing with the media. Name for me the other BCS head coaches dealing with media like this.
Yeah my observation as well. I’ve said a number of times my concern with Rolo from what I saw last year was what happened in the 3Q and my concerns about in game adjustments. Regardless of what you think about his decision he’s had no game plan and has looked like a buffoon as this thing has evolved. If you are making a decision this consequential and are a public figure you need to be 3 steps ahead of all of the possible outcomes…it’s not that he’s taking this stand it’s that he wasn’t prepared and he’s looked like a jackass doing it.
I'll start out with: I am vaccinated...Moderna
But in my community Rolo is getting a lot of love from my purple and piss "friends". They love that he is standing up for his right to put in his body what he wants.
I understand that in your world he may look like a bafoon, but there are other worlds out there. As someone else said, the African American population is not getting vaccinated at the same rate as white Americans.
I'll start out with: I am vaccinated...Moderna
I thought Sarks drunken womanizing was pretty cool too. I think your UW friends have enjoyed their run of Apple Cups and would like to see it continue.
Completely different scenario. Rolo could have said "no comment" as well, but it would have been abundantly clear he wasn't when he Zoomed in for the media days.
What you don't want is your head coach pissing off half your fan base, even if that means the other half is supportive, or indifferent. He's still pissed off A LOT of people.
Well just from a professional standpoint, would Oregon have let Say Taggart stay around or helfrich or even Crystobal after year one if they chose to miss media day and brought that kind of attention to the school?
USC with Helton? UCLA with Mora. ASU with the laundry list of their coaches ?
Moving forward if rolo goes 7-5 do you think D 1 schools will banging down the door for his services . It was an unforced error all the way around .
When I turned on one of the Portland news stations last night as soon as they started talking about Inslee’s mandate the image on screen through the entire segment was a pic of Rolo.
Maybe he was equating it to free will? The basic premise of human existence, according to those of that faith I presume.
I'm not the one that is outraged that the government has the audacity to determine what is the right thing to do........
The government has proven time and time again that they aren't qualified to determine what the right thing to do is. That's the issue many people have.
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Doesn't really matter what issue people have with the decision making. Our government has always had the right to impose decision making on people. I remember when it became illegal to drive without a seatbelt on. Same kind of "outrage".
Well have you been alive during another pandemic of this magnitude our government showed ineptitude ?
Citizens have rights - most of which protect them from the government. Governments don’t have rights.
Did you protest other baccines for your kids or did you just placate the mandate ? My guess is the latter ….
FWIW, I believe that everyone should have the right to forgo the vaccine.....I just think that they should have to carry a card saying that they are reserving the right to pass on the vaccine and accept the fact that they shouldn't be eligible for hospital care if they get sick from COVID. Make a choice and live with the consequences. Unfortunately, we don't get to go two days without seeing a story about some dude with a deathbed conversion wishing that they had the vaccine as they take up a bed in the ICU that someone else could be using.
And again, you have fewer rights than you think you have when your choices impact other people.
Citizens have rights and governments have powers. No right found in either the US. Constitution or the Washington State Constitution is being violated by this order. The only U.S. Supreme Court decision dealing with vaccine mandates is very old (1905) but it upheld the powers of the State of Massachusetts to require a vaccine for small pox. The Massachusetts action applied to everyone in the city of Cambridge. Inslee's mandate doesn't go anywhere near that far and just applies to public employees. His order is clearly constitutional. As I said before I don't want Rolo to get fired I do want him to stop being a free rider and recognize the need for everyone to help stop Covid. His latest comments are unnecessarily coy and do nothing to demonstrate the leadership he should be showing.
Make the unvaxed wear a yellow star so the hospital staff can identify them easier.
Did you just complete a post in two sentences?? Because I'm checking to see if hell has frozen over.
I don't think so Oscar. Don't think he was doing that. Was is satire? Could be wrong. It's a jungle out there, it's a jungle out there.
Being a Jew wasn't a choice.....being anti-vaccine is a choice. It's a critical difference.......
The point FnuLnu was making is clear enough, but suggesting that the use of yellow stars during the Holocaust is the same or analogous to what Flatland was advocating (limiting use of hospital for those choosing to forego the vaccine) significantly downplays the Holocaust.
I don’t even necessarily agree with Flatland’s take, but it is a legitimate issue, particularly with hospitals at capacity.
So, fat people should be denied medical care too, by your “logic.” Obesity causes far more death than Covid.
What Flats suggesting is never happening But I concur these people have no business running to the hospital when they are sick with Covid because the reason they got sick is they trust their Facebook friends over doctors. Go inject some bleach or take some horse medicine then and stay the F away from the hospital.
Obesity is a BS false equivalency and you know it. 1. Obesity isn’t contagious. 2. Health systems are set up to manage the health issues from a relatively predictable number of fat people within a given population. They aren’t set up to manage a surge from a widespread health crisis, The ironic thing about your post/point is that people with health issues from obesity ARE being denied care in areas with overwhelmed health systems because of covidiots.
