Well, that still makes me infinitely more clever than you. Do you want to cut off healthcare to unvaccinated people too?
How does Inslee’s mandate change things for Rolo
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I’m not trying to be clever, but that is the most charitable reading of what you are doing.
And you can read above that I don’t necessarily agree with denying unvaccinated people entry to the hospital. But everyone sees through your fake concern about the disproportionate impact this could have on black people.
It’s a would, not a could, if bigots like Flatland get their way. The vaccine rates don’t lie. That doesn’t even take any cleverness.
How ignorant am I? You’re the one parroting MSNBC talking points without thinking about what they actually mean. That is the definition of ignorance, with a healthy dose of gaslighting . Check figure 3. You’re the one that wants to cut off healthcare to unvaccinated people. Doing so will disproportionately impact Blacks.
Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents
Across the country, medical centers are taking extraordinary measures.time.com
Your racism is your problem. You could have taken a mulligan, but you’re not smart enough for that.
I haven't watched MSNBC in a long time. FWIW, I don't even have the ability to watch MSNBC since I cut the cord and I didn't watch it when it was available to me. You certainly enjoy assuming things.
And again, gaslight all you want, but just because I think that anti-vaxxers should be responsible for their decisions doesn't mean that it's got anything to do with race. That you continue to try to make that argument is laughable. FWIW, my daughter-in-law is currently getting paid $35 per hour EXTRA when she works overtime right now because the hospital she is working at is overwhelmed so badly. It's a travesty that people are not receiving proper care because people value their "freedom" over other people's lives.
I hope that you don't lose friends or family to COVID because of delusional people not getting vaccinated.
Quit the equivocation. You want to deny healthcare to Blacks. Sixty percent of the Black population in fact. Your ignorance is your problem.
Did I say you watched MSNBC, or parroted MSNBC’s talking points? You can consume your media any way you choose.
It's easy enough to dispense with the ethnicity-baiting and just say that it matters not what background or "race" you are. First and foremost you are an American and a member of a society/community that has SOME amount of obligation to your fellow citizen and if you don't take the vaccine because of "freedom" and "guvment can't tell me what to do", then yeah, you come to the hospital with delta and haven't been vaccinated, get to the back of the line. Thats an understandable position. Taihtsat
Wait until health insurance wont cover covid related hospital stays for unvaxed….
Siri…show me how people die on hills of stupidity so they feel appreciation from other members of the fan club they belong to
Wait until civil lawsuits force health insurance companies to payout billions for refusing to do so.
Yeah? Cause all these ppl have the money to sue??? Not happening. Nice try though.
Yeah because attorneys who sue companies ask for outrageous, upfront retainers. Umm OK
It’s a loser of a case. And yes, if they believe it’s a loser they will ask for a retainer.
Insurance companies will find a way to charge people more money for what they decide is risky behavior. It doesn’t matter what you think or feels. It is an economic issue to them. Don’t take the vax and wind up in the hospital? You’re gonna pay. Don’t like it? Go ahead and sue. See how the insurance companies bury you in legal work and fees you either can’t pay or won’t be worth it for the attorney.
Life is hard. It must be harder for you cause you’re dumb. Good luck!
What? You can't be serious. So by your logic, if someone ends up in the hospital because they have a severe reaction after contracting a nasty viral strain of the flu and didn't get the flu shot that year, insurance companies will refuse to foot the bill due to it being "risky behavior"? Did all that fat in your gut go to your brain to cloud your thought process?
Do you think insurance companies are gonna be ok with paying hospital stays of unvaxed without raising their rates?
Yes or no.
FWIW, there is a difference between willfully passing on the COVID vaccine and getting sick from a "nasty viral strain of the flu" after passing on the flu shot. If 600,000 people were dying on an annual basis from the flu, the conversation is totally different.
I still find it interesting that people argue so vehemently that they should have the right to assess their own risk on getting the vaccine but don't believe that private companies should have the same right to assess and charge for that risk.
Good for uou… you haven’t taken the bait. For dblithers it is about something else. He is just waiting for you to take the bait .
He has no comeback now that Pfizer has full fda approval. Much more respect to Cougar in Spain where that poster says it is about him and they aren’t getting the vaccine and if something happens to someone else that is their tough luck . Way more honest .
the solution is simple so dblithers concern of bigotry is taken off the table. Look at it like they are in a war… have a triage center. The people who have need for knee surgery and other elective surgeries, births are the first to be served. Then have affirmative action and take minorities next. That way all of dblithers concerns are met .
I think this is the biggest problem I have with Rolovich. He doesn't need to be flippant about the whole thing. It's a bad look for the school. This is not a situation for a Marshawn Lynch impression, IMO.
Dude, I usually really enjoy your arguments, but this isn't cool.
Auburns head coach Bryan HArsin has covid and cannot coach for I believe 10 days. He and Mike Leach are the only two head coaches in the SEC who did not do a Covid PSA.
I was in Pullman this past weekend. I just happened to go up to campus and took back streets to get there. I found myself in the middle of the boys bid day running to their houses. (I have never seen that before)
It was alive, and it has been my hope (my kids fully understand they may go back to "at home" learning if there is another huge break out) is that these kids, all of them get to live the college experience. They get to go to sporting events, they get to go to class like they are today. I got vaccinated for them and other people like local businesses in my community as much as I did for my own health concerns.
You know at this point I am becoming more ambivalent. When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, everyone seemed to have rowed in the same direction. They were looking for ways to solve the problem. Times have changed.
600,000 are NOT dying on a annual basis due to Covid.
600,000 have died due to Covid during 2 years.
That's 300,000 dead on a annual basis.
The most that have died in any given year for the flu, during the worst epidemic, almost pandemic version of the flu, pre Covid was about 80k a year.
So based on that, Covid's annual death total of 300k is ONLY about 3.5 times worse then the 80k that died in the worst version of the flu in history.
The normal amount that dies due to the flu each year is about 35k a year, and Covid is about 10 times worse then that at about 300k a year.
And that's total dead, that's not considering the number of cases rate, and hospitalization rate.
There has been about 200 million + cases of Covid for about a .5% of 1% mortality rate. Hospitalization rate is about 7 million out of about 200 million + cases for about a 3.5% hospitalization rate.
Also most of those 600k dead died during the first 1.5 years out of about a 2.5 year period.
One only has to look at Australia's 17 to 33 dead out of about 7k to 10k to 13k cases the last month to know that COVID death's are going WAY DOWN.
This is because when this all started, Covid Deaths were up, because it was NEW. But now there is better treatment, etc, that why death rate has dropped.
In 2 more years Covid Mortality rate will likely drop from .50% of 1% down to .35% of 1%. And then 2 years after that down from .35% of 1% down to about .23% of 1%, because of how Covid Mortality rate is FALLING.
You don't go by the number of TOTAL dead, died, you go by the MORTALITY RATE, HOSPITALIZATION RATE, % OF TOTAL CASES.
And based on total Mortality rate, and Hospitalization rate, and total percentage of TOTAL CASES, and on how MORTALITY RATE AND HOSPITALIZATION RATES ARE FALLING(Again see Australia's, about 01% of 1% Mortality rate over the last about 1,2,3 months), then Covid is not as bad as you think it is.
People in Australia, where they are struggling to vaccinate people, have almost a greater chance of being hit, and dying of getting hit by lightning, then they do of getting hit,killed by Covid.
And FLU's Mortality rate of about .16% of 1% is about 1/3 as bad as Covid's .50% of 1% Mortality rate.
It's just not as bad as you think.
Not saying it's NOTHING. It is something. It's just not as bad as you think, make it out to be
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Has Covid show it can get worse? How do you factor in for future variants. LAst year it was 65 and older that it affected. How about now?
Any chance deaths are down because 160 mil are vaccinated showing it works?
Apparently you misread, misunderstood, didn't see the part that Australia that has about a .01% of 1% mortality rate(about 17 to 33 dead out of about 7k to 10k to 13k cases, the last about 1,2,3 months), IS STRUGGLING TO VACCINATE Australia's people.
If it was vaccination, that was the MOST responsible, like you say, then Australia wouldn't be STRUGGLING to Vaccinate people, and their vaccination rate would be much higher. Then that, it might explain the low Mortality Rate.
But since the Vaccination rate is so low, and since they are struggling to vaccinate people, then that does not suggest that Vaccination is why the Mortality Rate is SOO LOW in Australia, despite the SKY ROCKETING of cases, despite lockdowns, masking, etc.
So no, Vaccinations are not responsible.
And if Lockdowns, mask were responsible, then in addition to mortality rate being so low, Covid Cases wouldn't be skyrocketing up.
So it's not Vaccinations, Lockdowns, Mask, that why Mortality rate is SOO LOW
It's better treatment, recognition, better contact tracing, better medicine, AND that COVID is just not as bad as it used to be.
Not vaccination, Not mask, not lockdowns.
He doesn't need to tell me anything. You've proven that when it comes to this particular subject, you are an abjectly moronic, race-baiting, gaslighting, trolling toolbag.
But, the good news is, once the pandemic dies down and you don't have your panties all bunched up around your throat and cutting off oxygen to your brain......you'll probably be ok to discuss things with again.
Dude, you’re the one that wants to cut off healthcare to 60 percent of Blacks.
I said that we should deny ICU care to COVID patients that have chosen to not be vaccinated. You, being the race-baiting troll that you are, are trying to gaslight people into thinking that the discussion is something that it is not. You are the only one that is talking about black people. Again, I understand that your panties are all bunched up to the point where they are cutting off the oxygen supply to your brain, so it's inherently unfair to judge you too much for your stupidity on the subject.
BS. This is a quote from you:
FWIW, I believe that everyone should have the right to forgo the vaccine.....I just think that they should have to carry a card saying that they are reserving the right to pass on the vaccine and accept the fact that they shouldn't be eligible for hospital care if they get sick from COVID. Make a choice and live with the consequences
So you still think that’s a good idea? Or has your moral superiority, self-righteous BS worn off?
Don’t worry about my undergarments. I’m not wearing any at the moment.
No he didn’t say that . Use affirmative action so blacks are second in line to regular procedures therefore are front of the line of the not vaccinated ? Your dilemma is now solved.
Because it is now approved . It has gone through the rigors of the approval process . Now employers will mandate because the one thing business people don’t want is their business shut down again .
see there is money in obesity . McDonalds wants overweight people to come inside and eat, get supersized. Coke and Pepsi want people to drink their product . Hospitals stay busy with obese and other people as well. Covid …. It is just a drain and will cause another form of shut down whether it is from top down or bottom up . People have already slowed down going to restaurants. Growth month over month dropped a little .
More delta hits the more likely businesses shut down . WSU will be hit hard again if it has to shut down .
Yeah, and WHO brought up black people? Again, just what kind or counselor are you? You keep providing "evidence" that not only doesnt supoort your claims, but refutes them?!?!
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