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Look at coastal Georgia, South Carolina and coastal N. Carolina. Obviously the farther north one goes, the warmer it gets but Savannah/Hilton Head/Beaufort metroplex had 75-80 degree weather last week and it was awesome. Even low 60's is tolerable there.

Also, of the two so far, I prefer Costa Rica over Panama but that's probably because in Costa Rica we were on the beach at a resort, shuttled into Tamarindo for the beach club/all day drinking. Panama City is urban and, though it is a good location to conduct Marty Byrd money laundering operations, its not as tourisa friendly as a lot of other cities to which I've traveled. That could be partly on where our hotel is located but you gotta money launder where the money launderers are, you know.

Do you remember which beach club you went to in Tamarindo? I had a blast there. Stayed at Hotel la Palapa right there on the beach and it was $100 a night. Probably pandemic pricing. I doubt I could get that price now.

Yes, I believe the use Tide Pods in Panama to launder their money to keep it squeeky clean :p

Last week, we dined with a couple from NC, (they love NC) and my brother in-law moved from Bothell, WA to Greenville, SC. They bought an absolute palace for $600K. Would really prefer a tropical warmer climate during the winter months.

Hit Puerto Limón, Costa Rica on our 2019 cruise. Isn't the high season for good warm, tropical weather is December - April?

We have family in Greenville. Very nice indeed and it is apparent a lot of people are moving there.

Did you make it down to Puerto Viejo? That is the jewel of the Caribbean in Costa Rica.
 
Do you remember which beach club you went to in Tamarindo? I had a blast there. Stayed at Hotel la Palapa right there on the beach and it was $100 a night. Probably pandemic pricing. I doubt I could get that price now.

Yes, I believe the use Tide Pods in Panama to launder their money to keep it squeeky clean :p



We have family in Greenville. Very nice indeed and it is apparent a lot of people are moving there.

Did you make it down to Puerto Viejo? That is the jewel of the Caribbean in Costa Rica.
Don’t recall the beach club but it was some stupid price like $40 per day for two of us to drink as much beer as we liked.

We stayed at the Marriott property about 10 miles away.

That was late Jan/early Feb 2020. Flew home via Houston (huge Chinese population), sick as a dog for the first time in years a few days later. Likely pre media blitz Covid.

Sat with a lady from the Netherlands last night at a bar. She was just finishing several months touring South America. She raved about Colombia.

Who knew CIA money could turn places into tourist havens?
 
Do you remember which beach club you went to in Tamarindo? I had a blast there. Stayed at Hotel la Palapa right there on the beach and it was $100 a night. Probably pandemic pricing. I doubt I could get that price now.

Yes, I believe the use Tide Pods in Panama to launder their money to keep it squeeky clean :p



We have family in Greenville. Very nice indeed and it is apparent a lot of people are moving there.

Did you make it down to Puerto Viejo? That is the jewel of the Caribbean in Costa Rica.
Unfortunately, no.

Just did a quick Bing, I mean, Google.....on Puerto Viejo:

"If you're looking for an authentic Costa Rican experience with a hint of adventure, you must include Puerto Viejo in your itinerary. Known for its laid-back atmosphere, beautiful beaches, nightlife, and abundant wildlife and nature, the area will seduce you without a doubt.".

Would love to visit for sure.
 
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Last week, we dined with a couple from NC, (they love NC) and my brother in-law moved from Bothell, WA to Greenville, SC. They bought an absolute palace for $600K. Would really prefer a tropical warmer climate during the winter months.

Hit Puerto Limón, Costa Rica on our 2019 cruise. Isn't the high season for good warm, tropical weather is December - April?
Heading to a greenville in two weeks . You can get a lot of house there even tho prices are starting to creep up.

Greenville is inland like Spokane to Seattle . I probably would have hoped to be visiting Charleston than Greenville , but when family moved there they didn’t want to have to pack up during Hurricane season and come back to a house that is demolished .

Greenvilles city council and mayor do have to be applauded as 20 years ago it was a dying textile town . Now it is comparable to downtown Kirkland with a very lively vibe with good restaurants.

People could sell ghere million dollar house in Seattle and buying something in Greenville that is larger for 400k.

The downside is the humidity .

If you ever get to Greenville downtown there are several musts for food .
 
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Just returned home from an AMAZING 11 night Caribbean cruise. Panama was not on one of our port itineraries, but met a couple who's transitioning to Panama. I seem to recall another couple are transitioning to Portugal, as well. I've heard great things about both.

For the U.S. our short list are as follows:

Cave Creek, or Carefree, AZ
Central Florida
Dallas/Ft. Worth suburbs, (or San Antonio area).

The problem with Texas is the property taxes are very, very high, (almost double than King County).
Arizona, (except Flagstaff), is brutal in the summer at 120 degrees....but I don't mind it.

Just returned from Ft. Lauderdale, where it was 79 degrees, sunny, (suntan with Resort Pass for pool and gym) on Monday. Where in the United States is it 79% in February?

Would like to avoid the coast of Florida, (hurricanes). I don't mind it being humid, and it was not humid in Ft. Lauderdale.

Would be fun to explore Panama, Portugal, and Mexico...but living outside the U.S. would take a lot of research, visiting, and a steep mind renewal.

Feel free to chime in......

A cruise? Talk me into it. Never been on one with all my gazillion miles of travels.
 
A cruise? Talk me into it. Never been on one with all my gazillion miles of travels.
I'll do my best.

I too have travelled a fair amount, (except Europe). A cruise? It truly is remarkable in so many ways. Perhaps the best vacations ever, (and liking better than Hawaiian vacations, like West Maui's Kaanapali Beach and the sunny side of Kauai). Can't compare to destination resort skiing in Colorado, Utah, Tahoe and Canada....cause it's a different type of vacation.

1. Great for your marriage. An that's an understatement.
2. Works with any budget, from an inside state room, to a room with a balcony, (called a veranda), to a Suite.
3. Unlimited dining and food. Most large cruise ships have 5 to 7 restaurants, and 24 hour room service.
4. Premium Drink Package, (unlimited on anything you want).
5. Free WiFi
6. You will be pampered, massively.
7. There will be days at Sea, (Sea Days) and Excursion Days. Ports of call for the day, where you can visit the local vendors selling anything from souvenirs to hand made crafts, or go to a private beach, a public white sand beach, or swim with the dolphins, or snorkel, or scuba dive, or choose between dozens of excursions of your choice, or just stay on the ship and relax.

8. Everything is included, including gratuities. Note: If you stay in a suite....all your gratuities are covered...but...you'll quickly realize these guys work their asses off to serve you. It's common and kind to recognize the butler, the room attendant, and the fine dining servers who literally work 11 hours a day, 7 days a week....serving you and making you happy. These crew members generally work more hours than anyone in the USA. But...they love what they do, and most send their money home to their wives and families.

9. Book with a dedicated discount Cruise Travel Agent. Small deposit at time of booking, then balance within 60 days of departure. Specific rooms on Cruises tend sell out rather quickly. You'll save at least $1000 then if you book directly with the cruise line, and you'll receive something like $800 OBC, (On Board Credits). You can spend the $800 an anything aboard the ship. Anything. With all your food, drinks, and WiFi paid for....we're talking the shops, the casino, the photography studio package, (they have photographers around the ship), the Spa...if your wife wants to get a massage, or a facial.

There is "chic night", at least one night or sometimes two nights. You dress up if you want. Ties are not required, but jackets are recommended, (talking just on chic nights). Most of the time it's resort wear, or smart casual evening wear. You just can't wear wet bathing suit into the dining rooms. Common sense.

The ship is a massive floating luxury 4 or 5 star hotel, with a crew of 800 or more. Most of them are serving you. Some ships have over 3200 passengers, and a crew of 1000. The nice thing is you don't have to get in your car and go anywhere. Just walk out of your room, go up the stairs, or the elevator, and boom, your listening to live music at the martini bar, or some magic show in the theater, or Cirque de Solea in the theater, or you're looking at custom art. We don't care to donate, but there is a casino on board, and all the shops are duty free. Again, each day there are about 90 activities. You can choose, or do nothing at all. Just go to the library and read, or lay out, or play card or board games. Totally up to you what you want to do.

You love bacon, caviar, or sugar free ice cream? You can have unlimited anything you want for breakfast, lunch or dinner. You want pizza at 1am. No problem.
Big time indulgence for many folks, but out of the 11 days, I hit the gym 9 out of 11, with one hour solid workouts, doing weight machines every other day and cardio every other day. Didn't gain a pound.

Step out of your room, hit the elevator, and you can be in the gym within 60 seconds, or specialty dinning in 60 seconds, or one of several pools in 60 seconds, or the theater for a show, or shop on board, or go to one of 90 daily activities.

Been a while since you took your wife out to dance? Hit the dance floor with 70's disco music, or Abba tribute, Beatles, Neil Diamond, 80’s music, Michael Buble' tribute, trivia or game show, the list goes on and on.

Our first cruise was in 2019, as a surprise for our 25th Anniversary. I splurged and got my wife a top suite.
This includes a butler, 24/7. A room attendant that makes up your room twice a day, and access to "Luminae", a 5 star restaurant just for suite guests. You also will have access to the Retreat Lounge and the Retreat Sun Deck and pool. Many crew members has your name memorized.

If you cruise with Seabourn, every single crew member, (by the second day), has memorized your name.

What's the best on a cruise ship? The crew. The food is second, and the entertainment is third. You'll meet new friends. You'll sometimes dine with the same folks, if you like.

The crew consist of contract employees from all over the world. Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, Costa Rica, India, Venezuela, the Philippines, etc. They are all highly skilled at what they do. You won't find an 18 year old crew member on their first job, (they call em "contracts").

The 5 star restaurants have crews from 35 to 80 crew members. Luninae has 35 and Eden has 80. Fine Cut Steakhouse, Blu, La Patite Chef....all of which are specialty restaurants. Most are included in your package.

The Ocean View Cafe is where everyone can go.....like a massive buffet....but it has everything.

We like Celebrity Cruises. We were on the Celebrity Edge for 11 nights. Embarkation started at Ft. Lauderdale. Went to Columbia, Aruba, Curacoa, and the Bahamas. You don't have to get off the boat. You can stay onboard. There is so much to do.

If you can afford the Retreat....you'll be pampered just as if you were living in Buckingham Palace or the White House, and I'm serious. You also get a butler, and a special area on the top deck called the Retreat Sun Deck and Retreat Lounge.

If your budget does not allow for this, no worries. You'll still have the best time.

We flew into Ft. Lauderdale as they have Port Everglades, where you catch the ship. Wherever you leave from, make sure you arrive a day before and stay in a hotel the night before.

Again, we love Celebrity Cruises. You can't go wrong with The Edge, Apex, Beyond, or the Reflection. The newer ships, (Edge, Apex and Beyond) have the Retreat area. All have Luminae Dining....which will blow you away.

The best thing to do is watch YouTube videos. Check out Celebrity Cruises, The Edge, Apex or Beyond. If you don't like what you see....try Royal Caribbean, or if you want a party boat....Carnival. Young kids....Disney.
CEO extreme pampering, Seabourn, (their ships are smaller, up to 600).

We find Celebrity Cruises to be a spectacular, superior, and amazing.

7 day minimum. I would shoot for 11-14 days. If you can afford it....Retreat Class. If not....then I think your wife might appreciate a room with a veranda....so you can sit out and enjoy the sea and the evening sunsets.

Happy wife, happy life....so they say. :cool:
 
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I'll do my best.

I too have travelled a lot. A cruise? It truly is remarkable in so many ways. Perhaps the best vacations ever, (over many in the Hawaiian Island, etc).

1. Great for your marriage. An that's an understatement.
2. Works with any budget, from an inside state room, to a room with a balcony, (called a veranda), to a Suite.
3. Unlimited dining and food. Most large cruise ships have 5 to 7 restaurants, and 24 hour room service.
4. Premium Drink Package, (unlimited on anything you want).
5. Free WiFi
6. You will be pampered, massively.
7. There will be days at Sea, (Sea Days) and Excursion Days. Ports of call for the day, where you can visit the local vendors selling anything from souvenirs to hand made crafts, or go to a private beach, a public white sand beach, or swim with the dolphins, or snorkel, or scuba dive, or choose between dozens of excursions of your choice, or just stay on the ship and relax.

8. Everything is included, including gratuities. Note: If you stay in a suite....all your gratuities are covered...but...you'll quickly realize these guys work their asses off to serve you. It's common and kind to recognize the butler, the room attendant, and the fine dining servers who literally work 11 hours a day, 7 days a week....serving you and making you happy. These crew members generally work more hours than anyone in the USA. But...they love what they do, and most send their money home to their wives and families.

9. Book with a dedicated discount Cruise Travel Agent. Small deposit at time of booking, then balance within 60 days of departure. Specific rooms on Cruises tend sell out rather quickly. You'll save at least $1000 then if you book directly with the cruise line, and you'll receive something like $800 OBC, (On Board Credits). You can spend the $800 an anything aboard the ship. Anything. With all your food, drinks, and WiFi paid for....we're talking the shops, the casino, the photography studio package, (they have photographers around the ship), the Spa...if you wife wants to get a massage, or a facial.

There is "chic night", at least one night or sometimes two nights. You dress up if you want. Ties are not required, but jackets are recommended, (talking just on chic nights). Most of the time it's resort wear, or smart casual evening wear. You just can't wear wet bathing suites into the dining rooms. Common sense.

The ship is a massive floating luxury 4 or 5 star hotel, with a crew of 800 or more. Most of them are serving you. Some ships have over 3200 passengers, and a crew of 1000. The nice thing is you don't have to get in your car and go anywhere. Just walk out of your room, go up the stairs, or the elevator, and boom, your listening to live music at the martini bar, or some magic show in the theater, or Cirque de Solea in the theater, or you're looking at custom art. We don't care to donate, but there is a casino on board, and all the shops are duty free. Again, each day there are about 90 activities. You can choose, or do nothing at all. Just go to the library and read, or lay out, or play card or board games. Totally up to you what you want to do.

You love bacon, caviar, or sugar free ice cream? You can have unlimited anything you want for breakfast, lunch or dinner. You want pizza at 1am. No problem.
Big time indulgence for many folks, but out of the 11 days, I hit the gym 9 out of 11, with one hour solid workouts, doing weight machines every other day and cardio every other day. Didn't gain a pound.

Step out of your room, hit the elevator, and you can be in the gym within 60 seconds, or specialty dinning in 60 seconds, or one of several pools in 60 seconds, or the theater for a show, or shop on board, or go to one of 90 daily activities.

Been a while since you took your wife out to dance? Hit the dance floor with 70's disco music, or Abba tribute, or Michael Buble' tribute, or game show, the list goes on and on.

Our first cruise was in 2019, as a surprise for our 25th Anniversary. I splurged and got my wife a top suite.
This includes a butler, 24/7. A room attendant that makes up your room twice a day, and access to "Luminae", a 5 star restaurant just for suite guests. You also will have access to the Retreat Lounge and the Retreat Sun Deck and pool. Many crew members has your name memorized.

If you cruise with Seabourn, every single crew member, (by the second day), has memorized your name.

What's the best on a cruise ship? The crew. The food is second, and the entertainment is third. You'll meet new friends. You'll sometimes dine with the same folks, if you like.

The crew consist of contract employees from all over the world. Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, Costa Rica, India, Venezuela, the Philippines, etc. They are all highly skilled at what they do. You won't find an 18 year old crew member on their first job, (they call em "contracts").

The 5 star restaurants have crews from 35 to 80 crew members. Luninae has 35 and Eden has 80. Fine Cut Steakhouse, Blu, La Patite Chef....all of which are specialty restaurants. Most are included in your package.

The Ocean View Cafe is where everyone can go.....like a massive buffet....but it has everything.

We like Celebrity Cruises. We were on the Celebrity Edge for 11 nights. Embarkation started at Ft. Lauderdale. Went to Columbia, Aruba, Curacoa, and the Bahamas. You don't have to get off the boat. You can stay onboard. There is so much to do.

If you can afford the Retreat....you'll be pampered just as if you were living in Buckingham Palace or the White House, and I'm serious. You also get a butler, and a special area on the top deck called the Retreat Sun Deck and Retreat Lounge.

If your budget does not allow for this, no worries. You'll still have the best time.

We flew into Ft. Lauderdale as they have Port Everglades, where you catch the ship. Wherever you leave from, make sure you arrive a day before and stay in a hotel the night before.

Again, we love Celebrity Cruises. You can't go wrong with The Edge, Apex, Beyond, or the Reflection. The newer ships, (Edge, Apex and Beyond) have the Retreat area. All have Luminae Dining....which will blow you away.

The best thing to do is watch YouTube videos. Check out Celebrity Cruises, The Edge, Apex or Beyond. If you don't like what you see....try Royal Caribbean, or if you want a party boat....Carnival. Young kids....Disney.
CEO extreme pampering, Seabourn, (their ships are smaller, up to 600).

We find Celebrity Cruises to be a spectacular, superior, and amazing.

7 day minimum. I would shoot for 11-14 days. If you can afford it....Retreat Class. If not....then I think your wife might appreciate a room with a veranda....so you can sit out and enjoy the sea and the evening sunsets.

Happy wife, happy life....so they say. :cool:

Thank you! Excellent details.
 
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I'll do my best.

I too have travelled a fair amount, (except Europe). A cruise? It truly is remarkable in so many ways. Perhaps the best vacations ever, (over many in the Hawaiian Islands, etc).

1. Great for your marriage. An that's an understatement.
2. Works with any budget, from an inside state room, to a room with a balcony, (called a veranda), to a Suite.
3. Unlimited dining and food. Most large cruise ships have 5 to 7 restaurants, and 24 hour room service.
4. Premium Drink Package, (unlimited on anything you want).
5. Free WiFi
6. You will be pampered, massively.
7. There will be days at Sea, (Sea Days) and Excursion Days. Ports of call for the day, where you can visit the local vendors selling anything from souvenirs to hand made crafts, or go to a private beach, a public white sand beach, or swim with the dolphins, or snorkel, or scuba dive, or choose between dozens of excursions of your choice, or just stay on the ship and relax.

8. Everything is included, including gratuities. Note: If you stay in a suite....all your gratuities are covered...but...you'll quickly realize these guys work their asses off to serve you. It's common and kind to recognize the butler, the room attendant, and the fine dining servers who literally work 11 hours a day, 7 days a week....serving you and making you happy. These crew members generally work more hours than anyone in the USA. But...they love what they do, and most send their money home to their wives and families.

9. Book with a dedicated discount Cruise Travel Agent. Small deposit at time of booking, then balance within 60 days of departure. Specific rooms on Cruises tend sell out rather quickly. You'll save at least $1000 then if you book directly with the cruise line, and you'll receive something like $800 OBC, (On Board Credits). You can spend the $800 an anything aboard the ship. Anything. With all your food, drinks, and WiFi paid for....we're talking the shops, the casino, the photography studio package, (they have photographers around the ship), the Spa...if your wife wants to get a massage, or a facial.

There is "chic night", at least one night or sometimes two nights. You dress up if you want. Ties are not required, but jackets are recommended, (talking just on chic nights). Most of the time it's resort wear, or smart casual evening wear. You just can't wear wet bathing suit into the dining rooms. Common sense.

The ship is a massive floating luxury 4 or 5 star hotel, with a crew of 800 or more. Most of them are serving you. Some ships have over 3200 passengers, and a crew of 1000. The nice thing is you don't have to get in your car and go anywhere. Just walk out of your room, go up the stairs, or the elevator, and boom, your listening to live music at the martini bar, or some magic show in the theater, or Cirque de Solea in the theater, or you're looking at custom art. We don't care to donate, but there is a casino on board, and all the shops are duty free. Again, each day there are about 90 activities. You can choose, or do nothing at all. Just go to the library and read, or lay out, or play card or board games. Totally up to you what you want to do.

You love bacon, caviar, or sugar free ice cream? You can have unlimited anything you want for breakfast, lunch or dinner. You want pizza at 1am. No problem.
Big time indulgence for many folks, but out of the 11 days, I hit the gym 9 out of 11, with one hour solid workouts, doing weight machines every other day and cardio every other day. Didn't gain a pound.

Step out of your room, hit the elevator, and you can be in the gym within 60 seconds, or specialty dinning in 60 seconds, or one of several pools in 60 seconds, or the theater for a show, or shop on board, or go to one of 90 daily activities.

Been a while since you took your wife out to dance? Hit the dance floor with 70's disco music, or Abba tribute, Beatles, Neil Diamond, 80’s music, Michael Buble' tribute, trivia or game show, the list goes on and on.

Our first cruise was in 2019, as a surprise for our 25th Anniversary. I splurged and got my wife a top suite.
This includes a butler, 24/7. A room attendant that makes up your room twice a day, and access to "Luminae", a 5 star restaurant just for suite guests. You also will have access to the Retreat Lounge and the Retreat Sun Deck and pool. Many crew members has your name memorized.

If you cruise with Seabourn, every single crew member, (by the second day), has memorized your name.

What's the best on a cruise ship? The crew. The food is second, and the entertainment is third. You'll meet new friends. You'll sometimes dine with the same folks, if you like.

The crew consist of contract employees from all over the world. Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, Costa Rica, India, Venezuela, the Philippines, etc. They are all highly skilled at what they do. You won't find an 18 year old crew member on their first job, (they call em "contracts").

The 5 star restaurants have crews from 35 to 80 crew members. Luninae has 35 and Eden has 80. Fine Cut Steakhouse, Blu, La Patite Chef....all of which are specialty restaurants. Most are included in your package.

The Ocean View Cafe is where everyone can go.....like a massive buffet....but it has everything.

We like Celebrity Cruises. We were on the Celebrity Edge for 11 nights. Embarkation started at Ft. Lauderdale. Went to Columbia, Aruba, Curacoa, and the Bahamas. You don't have to get off the boat. You can stay onboard. There is so much to do.

If you can afford the Retreat....you'll be pampered just as if you were living in Buckingham Palace or the White House, and I'm serious. You also get a butler, and a special area on the top deck called the Retreat Sun Deck and Retreat Lounge.

If your budget does not allow for this, no worries. You'll still have the best time.

We flew into Ft. Lauderdale as they have Port Everglades, where you catch the ship. Wherever you leave from, make sure you arrive a day before and stay in a hotel the night before.

Again, we love Celebrity Cruises. You can't go wrong with The Edge, Apex, Beyond, or the Reflection. The newer ships, (Edge, Apex and Beyond) have the Retreat area. All have Luminae Dining....which will blow you away.

The best thing to do is watch YouTube videos. Check out Celebrity Cruises, The Edge, Apex or Beyond. If you don't like what you see....try Royal Caribbean, or if you want a party boat....Carnival. Young kids....Disney.
CEO extreme pampering, Seabourn, (their ships are smaller, up to 600).

We find Celebrity Cruises to be a spectacular, superior, and amazing.

7 day minimum. I would shoot for 11-14 days. If you can afford it....Retreat Class. If not....then I think your wife might appreciate a room with a veranda....so you can sit out and enjoy the sea and the evening sunsets.

Happy wife, happy life....so they say. :cool:
We're NCLers ourselves. Cruise's get a back rap -undeserved mostly. It's really just a floating hotel attached to a small city with everything you'd probably want regarding nightlife. Very economical considering lodging, food and entertainment are included in a one-stop shop.

Worst part about a cruise is getting on on the first day and getting off on the last. Otherwise, how else are you going to actually experience the panama canal. That one was the best.

Hope to do a European one that stops at Normandy! That's all I have to say about that.
 
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The only good part of living in Western WA for me has been the housing market. With my boys rolling into their senior year of high school in 2023/2024, my relocation possibilities are plentiful, as so many destinations are considerably less expensive and have better weather.

While no decisions have been made as of yet, I suspect I'll downsize to smaller a summer house or condo/townhome here in the NW and end up in Arizona or Florida in a snowbird property.
 
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We're NCLers ourselves. Cruise's get a back rap -undeserved mostly. It's really just a floating hotel attached to a small city with everything you'd probably want regarding nightlife. Very economical considering lodging, food and entertainment are included in a one-stop shop.

Worst part about a cruise is getting on on the first day and getting off on the last. Otherwise, how else are you going to actually experience the panama canal. That one was the best.

Hope to do a European one that stops at Normandy! That's all I have to say about that.
Most hotels don't leave you behind if your taxi gets stuck in traffic on the way back to the dock.

The whole concept has little allure to me. It's an expensive hotel with limited entertainment options, I'm not interested in 99% of the nightlife even if I'm on shore. I can go ashore in the places they pick, for the amount of time they pick (which really means I can't do what I want...I can do their pre-defined excursions). Sure, I can eat whenever I want, but I'm still stuck in the same place with a couple thousand others that I didn't pick, and my anti-social ass doesn't want around.

I may someday do a cruise, if my wife decides I'm going to. But my fingers are crossed it'll be a short one. Still trying to find the one that goes the places I want it to and will adapt to my schedule. Pretty sure that means buying my own boat...which I'm not going to do.

But if you find that Normandy trip...let me know. My wife & I were talking about France last week. Turns out we're both interested....except that she wants the south and the Mediterranean beaches, I want the north and the Normandy beaches. Very different ideas about a French vacation.
 
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I did and it was 4 plus years of main space fire drills, rough seas, crappy food and occasionally a decent port to go drink away the fact that you hated life for a while.
My old man did 27 years and loved nearly every day of it. I have some good pics of him going through the locks in Panama.

Then again, he was a officer. That might change the outlook.
 
Pretty sure that means buying my own boat...which I'm not going to do.
My now-ex and I had a boat (she has it now). We towed it with an RV then a truck camper. Hit every lake in N. Idaho multiple times - from Priest in the north to Cascade reservoir south of McCall. Dworshak reservoir is really cool. 50 miles of nothing stretching into the forest. Lake Kootenay in BC (cold and rough). Lake Roosevelt. Miles and miles of sandy beaches. Of course the Snake River on day trips, Vantage a couple of times. Once to Lake Washington.
 
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Most hotels don't leave you behind if your taxi gets stuck in traffic on the way back to the dock.

The whole concept has little allure to me. It's an expensive hotel with limited entertainment options, I'm not interested in 99% of the nightlife even if I'm on shore. I can go ashore in the places they pick, for the amount of time they pick (which really means I can't do what I want...I can do their pre-defined excursions). Sure, I can eat whenever I want, but I'm still stuck in the same place with a couple thousand others that I didn't pick, and my anti-social ass doesn't want around.

I may someday do a cruise, if my wife decides I'm going to. But my fingers are crossed it'll be a short one. Still trying to find the one that goes the places I want it to and will adapt to my schedule. Pretty sure that means buying my own boat...which I'm not going to do.

But if you find that Normandy trip...let me know. My wife & I were talking about France last week. Turns out we're both interested....except that she wants the south and the Mediterranean beaches, I want the north and the Normandy beaches. Very different ideas about a French vacation.

I think there are boat cruises on the Loire River in France that stops by wineries and small towns on the journey. I heard these are pretty cool. I'd like to try it...but it likely much more expensive without the economies of scale present on the large cruise ships.
 
I am planning my first cruise for this coming summer. Not sure exactly where in northern Idaho yet, but it will be the maiden cruise of my 10' fishing kayak! :)
I recommend the Thorofare between Upper and Lower Priest Lake. In September. You'd have to look pretty hard to find a better venue for a maiden voyage for something like that.
 
I am planning my first cruise for this coming summer. Not sure exactly where in northern Idaho yet, but it will be the maiden cruise of my 10' fishing kayak! :)
I cruise to One Shot Charlie’s in Harrison

The chain lakes off the Coeur d Alene river would be good for your kayak cruise.
 
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Ruff…….that takes me back decades. My family used to spend a week during a lot of summers, camping at Priest Lake, Indian Creek campgrounds, I think it was?

We would put our boat in the water and use it to get there.

A favorite memory involves going up the thoroughfare to Upper Priest and getting out of the boat at the very north end of the lake. There was a small sandy beach there and that was where I waterskied for the very first time, just waded out about waist deep slipped on the skis and let ‘er rip!

As I was sitting on the beach, with my dad getting impatient for me to get going, I heard a noise in the woods, just a few feet behind me. I got up and walked back there to find some deer tracks and right near them…some BIG cat paw prints!

I wasted no time getting back down to the water, wading out, slipping on the skis and yelling “HIT IT” to my dad!

Holy bleep…..that was over 50 years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday.

We also used to put the boat in at Cd’A and head down the lake to the far end and Lake Chactolet (sp?). We’d have a picnic at the park there, then head over and go up the St Joe river for quite a ways. Don’t think we ever made it all the way to St Maries? Usually had to turn around and head back so it wouldn’t be too dark by the time we were getting back to Cd’a.

Good days. Good times. Thanks for bringing back all those memories.
 
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Ruff…….that takes me back decades. My family used to spend a week during a lot of summers, camping at Priest Lake, Indian Creek campgrounds, I think it was?

We would put our boat in the water and use it to get there.

A favorite memory involves going up the thoroughfare to Upper Priest and getting out of the boat at the very north end of the lake. There was a small sandy beach there and that was where I waterskied for the very first time, just waded out about waist deep slipped on the skis and let ‘er rip!

As I was sitting on the beach, with my dad getting impatient for me to get going, I heard a noise in the woods, just a few feet behind me. I got up and walked back there to find some deer tracks and right near them…some BIG cat paw prints!

I wasted no time getting back down to the water, wading out, slipping on the skis and yelling “HIT IT” to my dad!

Holy bleep…..that was over 50 years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday.

We also used to put the boat in at Cd’A and head down the lake to the far end and Lake Chactolet (sp?). We’d have a picnic at the park there, then head over and go up the St Joe river for quite a ways. Don’t think we ever made it all the way to St Maries? Usually had to turn around and head back so it wouldn’t be too dark by the time we were getting back to Cd’a.

Good days. Good times. Thanks for bringing back all those memories.
You have a good memory -- Indian Creek is the right name. (It's still there and actually not much changed at Indian Creek in the past 50 yrs.) As for the lake itself, there's fewer restaurants and resorts across the lake now than then, more fancy cabins and expensive boats, not as good fishing now, but also fewer people on the water (so a lot of trade offs I guess). The Upper Lake is still completely unchanged from then.
 
You have a good memory -- Indian Creek is the right name. (It's still there and actually not much changed at Indian Creek in the past 50 yrs.) As for the lake itself, there's fewer restaurants and resorts across the lake now than then, more fancy cabins and expensive boats, not as good fishing now, but also fewer people on the water (so a lot of trade offs I guess). The Upper Lake is still completely unchanged from then.
Thanks John Stockton - you prick.
 
The state of Idaho ending all their cheap, long term leases is what’s really changed Priest Lake, not John Stockton. My favorite Lake by far but it’s a short season and a long way from Spokane if you want to go up every weekend (plus it’s expensive as hell now).
 
I'll let him know you'd like to discuss next time I see him.

And he's not, by the way.
Apparently you are his buddy. And I believe your opinion is in the minority.

I haven't been to Priest Lake in many years, but as I recall Stockton sort of took the South end over and ran off all the common folk.
 
Apparently you are his buddy. And I believe your opinion is in the minority.

I haven't been to Priest Lake in many years, but as I recall Stockton sort of took the South end over and ran off all the common folk.

He's got quite a bit of holdings in/around Coolin (both private and business, including Bishop's Marina). Similar to his notoriety in the NBA and regarding Covid, he's a pretty polarizing person at Priest Lake and has made fans and enemies of a fair number of people/entities. I don't think I've ever seen him anywhere other than Coolin tho, and he's set up slalom ski course buoys in front of his dock that folks (who shall remain nameless) have been known to make uninvited passes on, so he's not all bad...
 
Apparently you are his buddy. And I believe your opinion is in the minority.

I haven't been to Priest Lake in many years, but as I recall Stockton sort of took the South end over and ran off all the common folk.
I'm not. First name basis but that's it. Very private. Played ball against him since way back when. Actually know some of the other family members better. You're in Yakima, right - tell me who else in Spokane should be avoided. Only been there since 1963.

Did Stockton acquire his lakefront in some other way than buying it? Held a logger at gunpoint and made him sign a deed?

You hate private property rights? Or just Stockton from what you've heard on the internet?
 
I'm not. First name basis but that's it. Very private. Played ball against him since way back when. Actually know some of the other family members better. You're in Yakima, right - tell me who else in Spokane should be avoided. Only been there since 1963.

Did Stockton acquire his lakefront in some other way than buying it? Held a logger at gunpoint and made him sign a deed?

You hate private property rights? Or just Stockton from what you've heard on the internet?
I am all for property rights. Just don't like someone with money taking over a publicly accessible recreation area for their own selfish purposes. Pretty sure he took the main Coolin boat ramp away from the public.

Anyway, enough on this - let's chill. But to answer your Spokane question, I would avoid all the homeless and panhandlers that are under every overpass and at every intersection in the South Hill freeway area. I lived there for a bit a few years ago. Although I guess that's better than YakiVegas, where two shooting killings took place this weekend. One of them at a dog park I frequent. Never thought I would have to start packing a piece just to take my dog out but I may have to start......

 
I am all for property rights. Just don't like someone with money taking over a publicly accessible recreation area for their own selfish purposes. Pretty sure he took the main Coolin boat ramp away from the public.

Anyway, enough on this - let's chill. But to answer your Spokane question, I would avoid all the homeless and panhandlers that are under every overpass and at every intersection in the South Hill freeway area. I lived there for a bit a few years ago. Although I guess that's better than YakiVegas, where two shooting killings took place this weekend. One of them at a dog park I frequent. Never thought I would have to start packing a piece just to take my dog out but I may have to start......

Actually, Stockton tried to block a development of 65 acres of wetland adjacent to his property for his own privacy and the preservation of nature.

So Stockton is a conservative and a greenie.

Ultimately lost in the Supreme Court.
 
My old man did 27 years and loved nearly every day of it. I have some good pics of him going through the locks in Panama.

Then again, he was a officer. That might change the outlook.
Yeah going through it enlisted vs officer is night and day. I probably would've loved life had I been an officer too. In fact, I nearly did after I graduated from WSU.
 
We just took the same excursion.

The howlers sounded like a sorority girl during her first…oh wait, this is a family board.

Just one croc.
I keep on telling my kid he is related to the howler monkeys since he is all mouth and very loud!
 
I'm not. First name basis but that's it. Very private. Played ball against him since way back when. Actually know some of the other family members better. You're in Yakima, right - tell me who else in Spokane should be avoided. Only been there since 1963.

Did Stockton acquire his lakefront in some other way than buying it? Held a logger at gunpoint and made him sign a deed?

You hate private property rights? Or just Stockton from what you've heard on the internet?
Well some on the board would say you :)
 
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Actually, Stockton tried to block a development of 65 acres of wetland adjacent to his property for his own privacy and the preservation of nature.

So Stockton is a conservative and a greenie.

Ultimately lost in the Supreme Court.
Oh fer Gawd's sake. what koolaid do you drink? Stockton and his rich buddy didn't want development around their land. Nothing to do with preservation of nature, despite their lies to the court. Gawd forbid anyone else could have their dream lake home. So who's against property rights? I thought it was me. Guess again.

And he supported a Jan 6 rioter, and is an anti-vaxxer. What a fine example of a human being.


 
Oh fer Gawd's sake. what koolaid do you drink? Stockton and his rich buddy didn't want development around their land. Nothing to do with preservation of nature, despite their lies to the court. Gawd forbid anyone else could have their dream lake home. So who's against property rights? I thought it was me. Guess again.

And he supported a Jan 6 rioter, and is an anti-vaxxer. What a fine example of a human being.


I said he lost in Supreme Court.

Did Stockton the anti-vaxxer give you covid through your mask? He seems to have wronged you somehow personally.
 
I said he lost in Supreme Court.

Did Stockton the anti-vaxxer give you covid through your mask? He seems to have wronged you somehow personally.
Allright, last reply and I'm dropping this thread. As an aside, does anyone else get the "we ran into problems" message and have to repost? Annoying as hell.

It was the Idaho Supreme Court by the way. And he had to pay $500,000 in legal fees to the developer after he lost. You should read the news more.

Other than the fact he is a Zag, nothing personal. But what a wack job. 150 or 1,000 (depends on the article) athletes have dropped dead on the field or court after being vaxxed? What F-ing ever. Absolutely nuts.


 
I recommend the Thorofare between Upper and Lower Priest Lake. In September. You'd have to look pretty hard to find a better venue for a maiden voyage for something like that.
Not planning to wait until September, but might try it earlier. I'm in Rathdrum, so was thinking about Kelso, Spirit, or Twin Lakes to start. It's a ways to go, but the thorofare sounds like a good idea. Maybe try that after earning my captain's license on some closer places, learn to use the fish finder, etc. I saw it before on the map aps and it does look like a cool place to go. Hope there is a close place to launch.
 
Allright, last reply and I'm dropping this thread. As an aside, does anyone else get the "we ran into problems" message and have to repost? Annoying as hell.

It was the Idaho Supreme Court by the way. And he had to pay $500,000 in legal fees to the developer after he lost. You should read the news more.

Other than the fact he is a Zag, nothing personal. But what a wack job. 150 or 1,000 (depends on the article) athletes have dropped dead on the field or court after being vaxxed? What F-ing ever. Absolutely nuts.


You have one more in you.

Idaho has a Supreme Court. The dispute was in Idaho. Washington has a Supreme Court too. For Washington legal matters. I already said Stockton lost. You should read more.

Now back to your original post. You've never met the man but he's a prick. Interesting.
 
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