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I'm still at a loss that any Coug fan hates on Leach
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I was getting this meme texted to me all weekend from friends that aren't Cougs but love Leach. He has fans everywhere. We were fortunate to get him.
Fortunate to get him and just as fortunate when he left.
Willie, I have to agree. He cleaned up a mess when he arrived and re-made us to be relevant again.
A lot of people had grown pretty weary of him before he left. He left before his shelf life expired, and a 10 win season would have renewed the shelf life, but all in all he did us a great favor for several years and then moved on.
In a lot of ways, his time at WSU and Walden's time at WSU shared milestones. Now we are in what I hope will become a new era of a passing team that can run and plays good D, with a HC who is involved in both and able to actively help recruit at more than one or two positions.
Who hates who...Leach chose to leave. Left a job with no pressure, accepted he got hammered by his instate rivals. He flirted with numerous jobs once he had a winning season.
So he left, Paul Wulff got fired. I don't think of either one.
He did a lot of great things for WSU football and left it much better than he found it but after the Tennessee thing he clearly didn’t want to be here anymore. If he had stayed longer he would have drug WSU football down.
And he has his warts. Lots of them. He’s like the girl you meet at the bar and think is pretty hot and then when you wake up next to her and see her in the morning light without make up you seriously start to question your judgement.
That happens? I always thought you are suppose to leave earlier in the morning not to over stay your welcome.
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If you had told me that at 21 you could have saved me a lot of trouble.
As said above, most of us are thrilled that he picked us, grateful for the things that he did, but also realize that it was time for him to go. Oregon relentlessly raiding our assistants had gutted his staff and the mojo was gone by 2019. Leach could have undoubtedly kept on winning 7-9 games at WSU of course.
I enjoy watching him lose right now because I think it was sh!tty of him to leave WSU for a craphole like Mississippi State but at the same time, my happiness is not contingent on anything that happens there. Of course, for all of the respect that the football world has for his innovations, they realize that he's a crazy bastard so it's probably the best that he was going to do if he was leaving WSU.
Leach is a throwback personality. A coaching dinosaur. For as soft as his offensive system is on the field, he runs a tough, tight program. Training table, weight room, academics, off field conduct.
Everyone's personality type is different, but I would have no problem with my boys playing for him.
Everyone's personality type is different, but I would have no problem with my boys playing for him.
With a name with Pimp in it I thought you would have been in the masters program by the time you were 21....
Guess I’d have to know what your definition of hating is:
Was he awesome for WSU? Yes. Did he win more games during his tenure than any other alternative option would have? Yes. Was he stubborn with his approach to the point where it was detrimental in certain matchups (AC) Yes. Was he checked out from WSU when he eventually moved on to MSU? Yes
I’m not sure anyone didn’t like him as the coach but you can still point out his flaws and limitations without being a “hater”’.
The stink of that bowl loss to AF will forever stick on CML's legacy. It was like he had come full circle - stubborn ass at the beginning and the product showed it so people were grumpy, then still a stubborn ass but the record improved so people were more tolerant, then back to stubborn ass and people got grumpy.
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Most of us are happy with what Leach provided to WSU. However, it was time for him to go. Thank you CML.
ugh... not sure why I typed Alamo Bowl. I've apparently blocked out Cheese-it Bowl from my memory.
So.....I gained a little more respect for Leach this morning. Reading an article about a nurse saving some dude with a heart condition at the Utah game (link below) and towards the end, it mentions that Leach reached out to the gal when he heard about the story.
Canzano Story
Even if Leach is a bit of a crazy bastard and I'm still annoyed that he left WSU in what is arguably not even a lateral move....I respect the fact that he took the time to reach out to someone that he didn't need to and it shows that even if he left us....he's still a Coug to some degree.
Canzano Story
Even if Leach is a bit of a crazy bastard and I'm still annoyed that he left WSU in what is arguably not even a lateral move....I respect the fact that he took the time to reach out to someone that he didn't need to and it shows that even if he left us....he's still a Coug to some degree.
I agree. For me, looking back on the situation, I see it like this. Leach was a crossroads at his career when Moos approached him about the WSU job. Nobody was hiring Leach because of the Texas Tech situation, and we offered him a win/win proposition. We resurrect your career; you resurrect our program.
Leach stayed in Pullman 8 seasons. I think he *liked* living in Pullman but lets face facts. It's miles away from what him and his wife value the most. Florida, traveling, family, etc. He stayed as long as he did, I think, because he felt a sense of loyalty to WSU. Yea, he tried to bolt to Tennessee before MSU, and I don't blame him for that. Have you been to UT on game day? OMG, it's absolutely bonkers, and Tennessee is a wonderful state to live in.
Water under the bridge at this point, but I don't think Leach deserves any resentment from WSU fans. He won games, he graduated players, he kicked bad apples out of the program, and apart from his occasional political/social rants and media temper tantrums, he never once embarrassed the University. Mike Price, who is my all-time favorite WSU coach can't say that. Dennis Erickson used us. Doba was an unfortunate situation, but there was a lot of embarrassment within his coaching tree at WSU, Wulff was a disaster, Rolo's tenure was a trainwreck. Leach and WSU will forever go down as a win-win for both parties.
Leach is entertaining as hell. Likeable on a personality/charisma basis.
That doesn't mean one has to love how he calls a game. In fact, one could hate certain aspects.
That doesn't mean one has to love how he calls a game. In fact, one could hate certain aspects.
His clock management was mystifying (or absent). Fortunately, in most games we didn't have to worry about it much.
Always felt like he wasted RBs. Wicks, Morrow, Williams, Borghi all could have gained more yards, moved the clock, and kept defenses off balance. In some games (including 7 of his Apple Cups) that cost us. More often, it didn't matter.
He's one of those guys you know is smart as hell. So smart that he sometimes outsmarted himself.
Also just weird enough to be entertaining. Wasn't a big fan of him getting vocal with political stuff, but he was fun.
And, I don't blame him for leaving. Some say it was a lateral move, and institutionally...sure. But it was a big pay raise and moved him closer to home & family. I would have done it too. Honestly, of the coaches who have departed in my awareness, he's the one I found the least to be irritated with.
I wasn’t really that miffed over Doba leaving either. And, while his tenure certainly didn’t leave the program in a good place or on a positive trajectory…I’ll never blame him for the depths it hit.
Wicks in particular imo. He went off on Oregon in 2016(I think that was the year) and had like 8 plus ypc...then barely saw the ball the rest of his career. Williams took a lot of his reps and before his jr yr, you could blow on him and he would go down.
It was almost criminal to me that Wicks didn't get more reps.
I almost wonder if he is just fing with the media. I mean, I think it would be pretty difficult to coach if you are coughing like that all the time.
Doba’s tenure as head coach is a reminder why outside sales companies avoid promoting reps to manage their former region. Doba doesn’t have a boss mentality. He liked being a coordinator. His staff let him down. They ran unchecked.
I wonder if at least some Cougs remain upset about CML campaigning in Spokane for Pres. Trump and the Twitter kerfuffle wrt to a "doctored" speech that linked Pres. Obama to the New World Order?
Some fans believe in "Just Win Baby" but some don't.
Some fans believe in "Just Win Baby" but some don't.
I thought that Leach was a dumbass for campaigning for Trump but I also don't get the outrage. In your picture, he's wearing a generic suit with no WSU references visible. As a citizen, he's allowed to be an idiot. If he had shown up wearing a bunch of WSU garb....I'd probably care.
Mississippi State Gives Mike Leach Contract Extension, per Report - Sports Illustrated
The Bulldogs posted a 7–6 record this past season.
www.si.com
Was making $5 million per year, now $5.5 million, and the MSU Athletic Department is much healthier financially.
You wonder? Uhhh... I'd call it pretty obvious.I wonder if at least some Cougs remain upset about CML campaigning in Spokane for Pres. Trump and the Twitter kerfuffle wrt to a "doctored" speech that linked Pres. Obama to the New World Order?
Some fans believe in "Just Win Baby" but some don't.
Mississippi State Gives Mike Leach Contract Extension, per Report - Sports Illustrated
The Bulldogs posted a 7–6 record this past season.
Was making $5 million per year, now $5.5 million, and the MSU Athletic Department is much healthier financially.
From a cash perspective...it was not a bad move.
From a career perspective, it's not a lateral move. Mississippi State has two 10 win seasons in the history of their program. They've finished in the Top 10 one time in school history and that was before any of the current coaching staff was born and likely before the parents of most of their coaches were born. They've been a graveyard for coaches with Dan Mullen the only coach to leave there of their own volition in the past 50+ years. Jackie Sherrill proved that they didn't need to be terrible and Mullen showed that they could be competitive, but they rarely finished higher then 4th in the conference in the last couple decades. And when I say 4th in the conference, that usually meant 4th in their division.
This day and age I don’t think it makes any sense for a coach to be campaigning for any politicians. We are so politically charged as a country why would you risk alienating recruits or families of recruits. Stay out of it no matter where you stand.I wonder if at least some Cougs remain upset about CML campaigning in Spokane for Pres. Trump and the Twitter kerfuffle wrt to a "doctored" speech that linked Pres. Obama to the New World Order?
Some fans believe in "Just Win Baby" but some don't.
Leach will do fine in the SEC. He will never beat Georgia or Alabama though as long as their current coaches are there. But neither will several other SEC teams, so there is no shame in that.
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