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This should make some of you happy. I'm not crying any tears - don't hate him, just think he overreaches a lot.

Should be interesting too. Ferguson (AG) will probably run, maybe that loon Loren Culp will try again. I wouldn't mind seeing a moderate R win. Someone in Dan Evans mold. Bring some sanity back with both houses being Dems.
 
Ferguson will run and win
Yeah probably. Of course the Repugnants immediately go on the attack. This Heimlich is a real piece of work.

“It’s time to turn the page on the disastrous Inslee era in Washington State,” WSRP Chairman Caleb Heimlich said in a statement. “His decision to not seek a fourth term presents an opportunity to elect a Republican governor who will put Washingtonians first and prioritize the needs of our communities.”
 
It both is, and has not been, a long time since a Republican like Rossi, or perhaps McKenna, could have a real shot. Not that long in terms of time but the state has shifted even further to the left and a lot of moderates and those on the other side of the fence have bailed. I'd love to see a moderate R (or a moderate D, really), but good luck.
 
There is zero chance the GOP doesn't nominate a complete loon and therefor no chance they win the state house.
Yeah, that Loren Culp thing was laughable. I mean, R's, that's the best you can do? Then the nutcase moves down here and takes on Dan Newhouse, with his sole platform being Newhouse voting to impeach Trump. Got his ass handed to him.

And hey, I'm an independent moderate. I voted for Dino Rossi back in the day. Remember that election where they did 3 recounts until Gregoire won by 130 votes?

I googled it but could not find it - remember when Gregoire was speaking at WSU's commencment and these Accounting grads had spelled out "Accounting" on their hats (what do you call those?), then when Gregoire started speaking they switched their hats around to spell "count again"? Classic Coug moment. Wish someone had that picture. It showed the students hats and Gregoire speaking on the big screen.
 
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Yeah, that Loren Culp thing was laughable. I mean, R's, that's the best you can do? Then the nutcase moves down here and takes on Dan Newhouse, with his sole platform being Newhouse voting to impeach Trump. Got his ass handed to him.

And hey, I'm an independent moderate. I voted for Dino Rossi back in the day. Remember that election where they did 3 recounts until Gregoire won by 130 votes?

I googled it but could not find it - remember when Gregoire was speaking at WSU's commencment and these Accounting grads had spelled out "Accounting" on their hats (what do you call those?), then when Gregoire started speaking they switched their hats around to spell "count again"? Classic Coug moment. Wish someone had that picture. It showed the students hats and Gregoire speaking on the big screen.
That would have been rich....
 
Well, let's see...
Ferguson seems a likely candidate. Maybe Hilary Franz too. I don't know that much about her, but she's more interesting than he is. Pretty sure he was the one doing most of Inslee's thinking.

The Republicans have their pick of loons. Loren Culp may try again. Clint Didier probably thinks it should be him - he probably even still has the campaign signs from last time. Semi Bird has already announced, but the best thing I can say about him is that he's not Culp or Didier...but obviously he's willing to ignore public meeting laws. Wouldn't be too surprised to see Tiffany Smiley give it a shot either. Not that anyone with an R behind their name has much chance in King County. I mean Washington.


Wow....do our choices suck, or what?
 
That would have been rich....
Yeah somebody has to have that picture. It was quite the news back in whatever year that was. I searched my hard drive and I don't have it. Maybe I'll call the Evergreen and see if they have it in their archives.
 
Yeah somebody has to have that picture. It was quite the news back in whatever year that was. I searched my hard drive and I don't have it. Maybe I'll call the Evergreen and see if they have it in their archives.
Edit - it had to be Commencement 2005, as the 130 vote triple recount was in 2004.
 
Well, let's see...
Ferguson seems a likely candidate. Maybe Hilary Franz too. I don't know that much about her, but she's more interesting than he is. Pretty sure he was the one doing most of Inslee's thinking.

The Republicans have their pick of loons. Loren Culp may try again. Clint Didier probably thinks it should be him - he probably even still has the campaign signs from last time. Semi Bird has already announced, but the best thing I can say about him is that he's not Culp or Didier...but obviously he's willing to ignore public meeting laws. Wouldn't be too surprised to see Tiffany Smiley give it a shot either. Not that anyone with an R behind their name has much chance in King County. I mean Washington.


Wow....do our choices suck, or what?
Hmm - I googled this Bird guy, he has a pretty good stump speech on his site. Army Vet, purple heart, Black, he could have a shot. I kind of like Tiffany, mainly because she's pretty hot. Hilary Franz isn't ugly either. Of course I don't make my voting decisions on the looks of the candidates. Heh heh. :)
 
Dr Raul Garcia, he's a pro choice Republican, moderate, had Dan Evans support last time around, just a little late in the race, and probably to moderate for the right wing of the party. If you listen to him, he has a lot of good common sense, so that probably rules him out.

Franz is a better option than Ferggie, I would assume the King County commissioner, Dow, might give it a go.
 
Our county executive, Bruce Dammeier (R) is solid, but says he isn't running (yet).

His brother Kurt Dammeier, i think a Coug, started Beecher's cheese so the local family connections are there. I think the Dammeier family has had their hand in various things over the years. I've heard Bruce talk and I think he could campaign on his family being small business owners and they've parlayed their success into products that serving our region. I think he had some lawsuit against him or the county so I'd imagine dragging that out isn't something he's interested in.

Again, he's moderate enough to win, and pretty well liked a county that generally votes democrat. If they can get in front of the potential negative stuff, he could win.
 
Our county executive, Bruce Dammeier (R) is solid, but says he isn't running (yet).

His brother Kurt Dammeier, i think a Coug, started Beecher's cheese so the local family connections are there. I think the Dammeier family has had their hand in various things over the years. I've heard Bruce talk and I think he could campaign on his family being small business owners and they've parlayed their success into products that serving our region. I think he had some lawsuit against him or the county so I'd imagine dragging that out isn't something he's interested in.

Again, he's moderate enough to win, and pretty well liked a county that generally votes democrat. If they can get in front of the potential negative stuff, he could win.
Wow, blast from the past. I met Kurt Dammeier back in the day at WSU. Yes a Coug. Weren't friends, just aquaintances. Nice guy. Hear he got pretty successful. Geezus - how do I remember this shit from 40 years ago, but can't remember what I ate yesterday?
 
Hmm - I googled this Bird guy, he has a pretty good stump speech on his site. Army Vet, purple heart, Black, he could have a shot. I kind of like Tiffany, mainly because she's pretty hot. Hilary Franz isn't ugly either. Of course I don't make my voting decisions on the looks of the candidates. Heh heh. :)
Read more. And don't vote for him.
 
Dr Raul Garcia, he's a pro choice Republican, moderate, had Dan Evans support last time around, just a little late in the race, and probably to moderate for the right wing of the party. If you listen to him, he has a lot of good common sense, so that probably rules him out.

Franz is a better option than Ferggie, I would assume the King County commissioner, Dow, might give it a go.
Constantine also said he's not running. At least, not today.
 
Not in line with the original topic, but I just went through my headlines, and I swear I've seen this movie before...


 
Not in line with the original topic, but I just went through my headlines, and I swear I've seen this movie before...


Yeah, freaking bankers. As bad as lawyers (sorry Gibby). I worked with many during my career, and while some were OK, a lot were just not so much.
 
There will be more. When all you do is print money in a spending free for all, there's gonna be consequences. Liberals don't understand that though.
That's part of it. Letting banks operate with impunity and package/repackage/resell toxic loan packages doesn't help either. It's all a financial time bomb.
 
This should make some of you happy. I'm not crying any tears - don't hate him, just think he overreaches a lot.

Should be interesting too. Ferguson (AG) will probably run, maybe that loon Loren Culp will try again. I wouldn't mind seeing a moderate R win. Someone in Dan Evans mold. Bring some sanity back with both houses being Dems.
I really wish he WOULD have done that.
 
There will be more. When all you do is print money in a spending free for all, there's gonna be consequences. Liberals don't understand that though.
Always a good sound bite facts don’t back them up . Tell me the top debtors (Presidents) over the last 50 years .
 
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That's part of it. Letting banks operate with impunity and package/repackage/resell toxic loan packages doesn't help either. It's all a financial time bomb.
Certain banks are holding treasuries paying low interest rates. Those treasuries dropped considerably in value as the Fed increased rates. Both the banks and the regulators screwed this up.

However, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the big banks wanted some institutions to fail, and had the lobbying power and were making enough campaign contributions to influence making that happen.
 
Always a good sound bite facts don’t back them up . Tell me the top debtors (Presidents) over the last 50 years .
Ummmm the facts are staring you right in the face in the form of price tags when you go to the grocery store to buy food. Have you seen the price of new and used cars? The insane rate of Inflation was caused by printing money for liberal special pet projects, covid relief, PPP loans (if you want to call it a loan), the extension of rent moratoriums and unemployment benefits... Then you have Just Don't Give an F Joe Biden trying to push this idea that green energy is the future crap by hindering fossil fuel production here causing oil prices to balloon out of control on the futures market. Do you even econ bro?
 
Ummmm the facts are staring you right in the face in the form of price tags when you go to the grocery store to buy food. Have you seen the price of new and used cars? The insane rate of Inflation was caused by printing money for liberal special pet projects, covid relief, PPP loans (if you want to call it a loan), the extension of rent moratoriums and unemployment benefits... Then you have Just Don't Give an F Joe Biden trying to push this idea that green energy is the future crap by hindering fossil fuel production here causing oil prices to balloon out of control on the futures market. Do you even econ bro?
Spain …. Inflation is coming down . You act like PPP money wasn’t printed money .

You said this is a lib issue . Simply telling you your facts are incorrect . Check out the money bush Reagan trump and bush two spent then compare to Clinton and Obama ?

The difference is what the Republicans feel the need to spend it on .
 
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Always a good sound bite facts don’t back them up . Tell me the top debtors (Presidents) over the last 50 years .
Ya beat me to it Ed. Yes the Repugnant presidents have been responsible for WAY more defict spending and federal debt than the Democrat presidents. Starting with Ronald Raygun, whose massive tax cut for the rich and his ridiculous trickle down theory started a huge landslide of deficits.

Hey Spain, who's the last President who oversaw an actual surplus in the budget? Hint - Bill Clinton. Knowledge is a pretty cool thing......

On a side note, I was talking to an older (than me) guy and just chatting about football, Ukraine and other news of the day. He had no clue about anything going on. I admit I am a news junkie (web-based, I don't waste my time on TV news), but the overall cluelessness of people about the world around them just blows me away. Far from the first time I've had idle chit chat with people who don't watch, read, or follow what's going on. Too busy staring at their phones I guess.
 
Ferguson will run and win
I've never really followed Ferguson - but his "exploratory" ad is pretty powerful. (link below).

He'll be tough to beat by either side. Dem's, get out of his way. Repugnants, don't even waste your time fielding a candidate. Although a Clint Didier vs.Loren Culp primary shitshow would be kind of fun to watch.

 
Spain …. Inflation is coming down . You act like PPP money wasn’t printed money .

You said this is a lib issue . Simply telling you your facts are incorrect . Check out the money bush Reagan trump and bush two spent then compare to Clinton and Obama ?

The difference is what the Republicans feel the need to spend it on .

Bill Clinton was a fiscal moderate and not a liberal fiscally, and was a liberal on all the other issues.

Your also conveniently either forgetting or purposely not mentioning, not accounting for, etc, for the FISCALLY conservative HOUSE and SENATE FISCALLY, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, that helped REIN CLINTON in.

Also Clinton acted smart, he didn't fix what wasn't broken. He inherited a good economy from Bush 1, that recovered from the depression that helped cost Bush 1 the 2nd term presidency. Then Clinton LISTENED to the FISCAL conservatives. Then Clinton bipartisanly passed WORK FIRST WELFARE REFORM that the CONSERVATIVES PUSHED.

As far as Obama, Obama had the highest debt at that point(20 Trillion), and the most debt acquired by a single president at that point(Bush 2 was the previous highest), and he did it by NON STOP SPENDING.

Yes tax cuts temporarily increased, sky rocketed Debt, but that was usually followed by the ECONOMY being STIMULATED, and INCREASING the TAX BASE, despite the tax cuts, and thus in the long term 5,6,7+ years, the Debt was DEACREASED, economy improved, jobs, and higher paying jobs created, etc.

That's what the 94,95,96 CONGRESSIONAL republicans forced on Clinton, and why Clinton had less debt, and why had a surplus, and why Clinton had a good economy, and why Clinton had good jobs, good high paying jobs that were created.

Where Bush 2, and Trump went wrong, is that they didn't decrease SPENDING and didn't CUT SPENDING BUDGET, to go with tax cuts, which you have to cut spending budget with tax cuts, or Debt, etc, gets out of control.

What Bush 1 did wrong, is he didn't keep his campaign promise of READ MY LIPS, NO MORE NEW TAXES, which increased the Debt under Bush 1, and helped cause the 89 depression, and Bush 1 learned from his mistake, and he fixed things, which led to the recovery, but by then it was too late, and it cost him the presidency for a 2nd term.

Where Reagan went wrong is that while what he and Margaret Thatcher both did works, it unluckily didnt work as well that time for Reagan, and it took 8 years(TOO LONG), to get the eventual good results.

Also Reagan's went about fighting the drug war the wrong method, and had illegal actions in the Iran Contra scandal, and in Panama against Noriega(getting Noriega was good, doing so without congressional permission, as a executive feAT Police Action, etc, was wrong method and didn't help economy, debt, etc

You also leave out CARTER, who was the most craziest insane tax and spender, who created the worst economy, debt because of that and because of how insanely bad he handled or rather didn't handle the Iran Hostage, gas crisis.

Also you leave out fiscal conservatives like FORD, and Nixon. Yes Nixon was corrupt, and Ford a temporary replacement, but both used Reagan's FISCAL POLICIES VERY SUCCESSFULLY to keep economy, jobs, debt good.

The typical thing that happens in this country is that liberal socialist tax and spend like crazy presidents sink the country into further massive debt, bad economy, less jobs, etc, and then fiscal conservatives, then end up having to cut taxes, budget cuts, etc, to stimulate the economy, jobs, which then in the short term causes even more debt fixing the mess the tax and spend like crazy presidents created, then eventually the debt gets under control, etc, but by then the fiscal conservative is unpopular because didn't fix the tax and spender mess fast enough, which causes the fiscal conservative to get replaced by another tax and spender who creates another fiscal MESS, for another fiscal conservative to Fix, RINSE, WASH, REPEAT, OVER AND OVER, NON STOP.

Now altho that's how it usually is, CLINTON, TRUMP, etc, were EXCEPTIONS to that.

Basically your cherry picking Clinton, and Trump, etc.
 
Bill Clinton was a fiscal moderate and not a liberal fiscally, and was a liberal on all the other issues.

Your also conveniently either forgetting or purposely not mentioning, not accounting for, etc, for the FISCALLY conservative HOUSE and SENATE FISCALLY, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, that helped REIN CLINTON in.

Also Clinton acted smart, he didn't fix what wasn't broken. He inherited a good economy from Bush 1, that recovered from the depression that helped cost Bush 1 the 2nd term presidency. Then Clinton LISTENED to the FISCAL conservatives. Then Clinton bipartisanly passed WORK FIRST WELFARE REFORM that the CONSERVATIVES PUSHED.

As far as Obama, Obama had the highest debt at that point(20 Trillion), and the most debt acquired by a single president at that point(Bush 2 was the previous highest), and he did it by NON STOP SPENDING.

Yes tax cuts temporarily increased, sky rocketed Debt, but that was usually followed by the ECONOMY being STIMULATED, and INCREASING the TAX BASE, despite the tax cuts, and thus in the long term 5,6,7+ years, the Debt was DEACREASED, economy improved, jobs, and higher paying jobs created, etc.

That's what the 94,95,96 CONGRESSIONAL republicans forced on Clinton, and why Clinton had less debt, and why had a surplus, and why Clinton had a good economy, and why Clinton had good jobs, good high paying jobs that were created.

Where Bush 2, and Trump went wrong, is that they didn't decrease SPENDING and didn't CUT SPENDING BUDGET, to go with tax cuts, which you have to cut spending budget with tax cuts, or Debt, etc, gets out of control.

What Bush 1 did wrong, is he didn't keep his campaign promise of READ MY LIPS, NO MORE NEW TAXES, which increased the Debt under Bush 1, and helped cause the 89 depression, and Bush 1 learned from his mistake, and he fixed things, which led to the recovery, but by then it was too late, and it cost him the presidency for a 2nd term.

Where Reagan went wrong is that while what he and Margaret Thatcher both did works, it unluckily didnt work as well that time for Reagan, and it took 8 years(TOO LONG), to get the eventual good results.

Also Reagan's went about fighting the drug war the wrong method, and had illegal actions in the Iran Contra scandal, and in Panama against Noriega(getting Noriega was good, doing so without congressional permission, as a executive feAT Police Action, etc, was wrong method and didn't help economy, debt, etc

You also leave out CARTER, who was the most craziest insane tax and spender, who created the worst economy, debt because of that and because of how insanely bad he handled or rather didn't handle the Iran Hostage, gas crisis.

Also you leave out fiscal conservatives like FORD, and Nixon. Yes Nixon was corrupt, and Ford a temporary replacement, but both used Reagan's FISCAL POLICIES VERY SUCCESSFULLY to keep economy, jobs, debt good.

The typical thing that happens in this country is that liberal socialist tax and spend like crazy presidents sink the country into further massive debt, bad economy, less jobs, etc, and then fiscal conservatives, then end up having to cut taxes, budget cuts, etc, to stimulate the economy, jobs, which then in the short term causes even more debt fixing the mess the tax and spend like crazy presidents created, then eventually the debt gets under control, etc, but by then the fiscal conservative is unpopular because didn't fix the tax and spender mess fast enough, which causes the fiscal conservative to get replaced by another tax and spender who creates another fiscal MESS, for another fiscal conservative to Fix, RINSE, WASH, REPEAT, OVER AND OVER, NON STOP.

Now altho that's how it usually is, CLINTON, TRUMP, etc, were EXCEPTIONS to that.

Basically your cherry picking Clinton, and Trump, etc.
69% of the debt since 1980 has come at the feet of a GOP president. There are two aspects of debt. Like your household you bring in X. In the federal govt that is raised by taxes. So even if you keep spending at the same level, and you decrease your tax base( income) of course you are increasing your debt.

Trump in 4 years matched the debt Obama had in 8. Doesn't sound fiscally conservative to me.
 
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Ya beat me to it Ed. Yes the Repugnant presidents have been responsible for WAY more defict spending and federal debt than the Democrat presidents. Starting with Ronald Raygun, whose massive tax cut for the rich and his ridiculous trickle down theory started a huge landslide of deficits.

Hey Spain, who's the last President who oversaw an actual surplus in the budget? Hint - Bill Clinton. Knowledge is a pretty cool thing......

On a side note, I was talking to an older (than me) guy and just chatting about football, Ukraine and other news of the day. He had no clue about anything going on. I admit I am a news junkie (web-based, I don't waste my time on TV news), but the overall cluelessness of people about the world around them just blows me away. Far from the first time I've had idle chit chat with people who don't watch, read, or follow what's going on. Too busy staring at their phones I guess.
Why are you bringing up Clinton? IDGAF about what happened then. We are talking about now and how the shift of Liberal focus has nearly fallen off the far left cliff in the name of identity politics and deficit spending. Biden has exponentially outspent any prior president with the passage of the IRA, infrastructure spending bill and the aforementioned Covid policies he kept in place despite economic conditions indicating they needed to end. But whatevs... Keep voting for your favorite Libstar politician. Moron
 
I've never really followed Ferguson - but his "exploratory" ad is pretty powerful. (link below).

He'll be tough to beat by either side. Dem's, get out of his way. Repugnants, don't even waste your time fielding a candidate. Although a Clint Didier vs.Loren Culp primary shitshow would be kind of fun to watch.

Unfortunate for Washington thats for sure.. This man is an extremist and very destructive. I hope y'all love paying taxes!
 
Why are you bringing up Clinton? IDGAF about what happened then. We are talking about now and how the shift of Liberal focus has nearly fallen off the far left cliff in the name of identity politics and deficit spending. Biden has exponentially outspent any prior president with the passage of the IRA, infrastructure spending bill and the aforementioned Covid policies he kept in place despite economic conditions indicating they needed to end. But whatevs... Keep voting for your favorite Libstar politician. Moron
You brought up presidents and deficits buddy. And F-you for calling me a moron. $5 says I'm smarter than you, for sure better looking, and have had satisfied more women. If you are really in Spain , stay there. Aren't they basically bankrupt as a country? You are no Coug.
 
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Certain banks are holding treasuries paying low interest rates. Those treasuries dropped considerably in value as the Fed increased rates. Both the banks and the regulators screwed this up.

However, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the big banks wanted some institutions to fail, and had the lobbying power and were making enough campaign contributions to influence making that happen.
Or the fed is just stupid?
 
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