Interesting article on UW for those with an Athletic subscription

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Try not to puke since it's about UW, and none of it is that surprising, but it is interesting to see how some people in the UW universe view its position and struggles, especially if you then apply them to WSU, which has many, many more challenges than UW. There are tons of quotes and nuggets about the CFB landscape generally, including anecdotes about huge, multi-million dollar NIL deals in the SEC and even a 3-star recruit getting up to $500k in NIL money. One nugget in there is Jen Cohen claiming that state ethics rules make NIL harder from an institutional perspective in Washington than in some other states in the Pac-12 footprint. Overall, UW comes across as not wanting to really go all-in on NIL and there not being a ton of appetite among its fanbase for it, but the context is trying to compete against Oregon, USC, and SEC teams, not just landing a few 4-star prospects.

The article is part of a series on programs that are scuffling lately after having had some prior success. There won't be a WSU one.
 

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Try not to puke since it's about UW, and none of it is that surprising, but it is interesting to see how some people in the UW universe view its position and struggles, especially if you then apply them to WSU, which has many, many more challenges than UW. There are tons of quotes and nuggets about the CFB landscape generally, including anecdotes about huge, multi-million dollar NIL deals in the SEC and even a 3-star recruit getting up to $500k in NIL money. One nugget in there is Jen Cohen claiming that state ethics rules make NIL harder from an institutional perspective in Washington than in some other states in the Pac-12 footprint. Overall, UW comes across as not wanting to really go all-in on NIL and there not being a ton of appetite among its fanbase for it, but the context is trying to compete against Oregon, USC, and SEC teams, not just landing a few 4-star prospects.

The article is part of a series on programs that are scuffling lately after having had some prior success. There won't be a WSU one.
425, thank you for the article summary.

As to the perception that UW is not all in on NIL, that seems right. That seems to be the vibe from Montlake. Anyway, shouldn't a young man come to UW strictly because of the "winning tradition"? Or maybe NIL interferes with the coffee cups? Gotta admit, at least the coffee cups are not reported to the IRS!
 
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Try not to puke since it's about UW, and none of it is that surprising, but it is interesting to see how some people in the UW universe view its position and struggles, especially if you then apply them to WSU, which has many, many more challenges than UW. There are tons of quotes and nuggets about the CFB landscape generally, including anecdotes about huge, multi-million dollar NIL deals in the SEC and even a 3-star recruit getting up to $500k in NIL money. One nugget in there is Jen Cohen claiming that state ethics rules make NIL harder from an institutional perspective in Washington than in some other states in the Pac-12 footprint. Overall, UW comes across as not wanting to really go all-in on NIL and there not being a ton of appetite among its fanbase for it, but the context is trying to compete against Oregon, USC, and SEC teams, not just landing a few 4-star prospects.

The article is part of a series on programs that are scuffling lately after having had some prior success. There won't be a WSU one.

Thanks for the article and commentary.

What I find hilarious is that Cohen blames "state ethics laws" or some such nonsense on the conundrum UW is facing.

This state is deeply corrupt. Forget the ethics claims and high horse preening. A one party leftist state is always deeply corrupt. It doesn't matter which state either.
 

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Thanks for the article and commentary.

What I find hilarious is that Cohen blames "state ethics laws" or some such nonsense on the conundrum UW is facing.

This state is deeply corrupt. Forget the ethics claims and high horse preening. A one party leftist state is always deeply corrupt. It doesn't matter which state either.
It was corrupt even before that.

Husky great Chuck Carroll was KC prosecutor for decades including while Inslee & Gregoire were UW undergrads.

He was openly taking envelopes of cash at his house from pinball operators. Dan Evans apparently defended that in his recent memoir.

But what the local oligarchs and pols are besides corrupt is CHEAP.

Think the Title IX folks in charge of UW AD don't want to lose control of the FB cash cow which funds their preferred sports
 

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It was corrupt even before that.

Husky great Chuck Carroll was KC prosecutor for decades including while Inslee & Gregoire were UW undergrads.

He was openly taking envelopes of cash at his house from pinball operators. Dan Evans apparently defended that in his recent memoir.

But what the local oligarchs and pols are besides corrupt is CHEAP.

Think the Title IX folks in charge of UW AD don't want to lose control of the FB cash cow which funds their preferred sports

This is a good point.
 

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People can make up any theory they like to fit their world view, but it is just part of the slow death of college football. It is essentially a regional sport at this point, like college wrestling or lacrosse. It is nearly inconceivable that a national champion will come from a state other than South Carolina, Florida, Georgia or Alabama. There are many stakeholders, especially the networks and the NCAA that will try to maintain the image of college football as a competitive between the conferences, and hype up USC, Ohio State and Notre Dame, but the only real competition is within the SEC, and maybe Clemson.
 

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People can make up any theory they like to fit their world view, but it is just part of the slow death of college football. It is essentially a regional sport at this point, like college wrestling or lacrosse. It is nearly inconceivable that a national champion will come from a state other than South Carolina, Florida, Georgia or Alabama. There are many stakeholders, especially the networks and the NCAA that will try to maintain the image of college football as a competitive between the conferences, and hype up USC, Ohio State and Notre Dame, but the only real competition is within the SEC, and maybe Clemson.

Ohio State is also in the mix going forward...but your point is well-taken.
 

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Try not to puke since it's about UW, and none of it is that surprising, but it is interesting to see how some people in the UW universe view its position and struggles, especially if you then apply them to WSU, which has many, many more challenges than UW. There are tons of quotes and nuggets about the CFB landscape generally, including anecdotes about huge, multi-million dollar NIL deals in the SEC and even a 3-star recruit getting up to $500k in NIL money. One nugget in there is Jen Cohen claiming that state ethics rules make NIL harder from an institutional perspective in Washington than in some other states in the Pac-12 footprint. Overall, UW comes across as not wanting to really go all-in on NIL and there not being a ton of appetite among its fanbase for it, but the context is trying to compete against Oregon, USC, and SEC teams, not just landing a few 4-star prospects.

The article is part of a series on programs that are scuffling lately after having had some prior success. There won't be a WSU one.
Not sure I see an issue with the ethics rules. The athletes are not state/university employees, and the state/university is not paying them. NIL deals are outside of the university. Honestly, it’s not that much different than if a student has a modeling contract that puts their picture on billboards. No university ethics issue there.

The way for UW - and WSU - to handle NIL is to get out of the way and let the market do what it does.
 

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You have to ask yourself if Jen Cohen believes what she said about the state ethics rules. If she believes it, then she is mistaken, and likely not very bright. If she does not believe it, then she is looking for excuses and a liar.

I'm not sure that she can have it both ways.
 

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You have to ask yourself if Jen Cohen believes what she said about the state ethics rules. If she believes it, then she is mistaken, and likely not very bright. If she does not believe it, then she is looking for excuses and a liar.

I'm not sure that she can have it both ways.
That leopard skin pant suit is worn by people who like it both ways.
 
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