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Jaylen Wells

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Staff continuing to persue players. Now a D2 All American coming for a visit. 6-7 205 Wing out of Sacremento.

CCAA player of the year.
 
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He had a big jump in shooting percentages from freshman to sophomore. Can he handle better competition is the big question.
 
Yep that is always the question. Guess he's in Pullman for a visit. Probably real weight training will help as they don't have as much at D2.
 
Getting BOTH Moses(5-11 to 6-3 combo PG transfer from other thread), and Wells, It would either be great for DEPTH, or for IF Rodman, Rice, Powell, etc, can't either replace Bamba, an or can't be a good enough PG, etc

But if could only get 1 of them, instead of both, or none of them, I would choose Isiah Moses over Wells.

And that's because Isiah Moses can play both the PG, 2, SG spot, shoots 43% from 3, instead of Wells CRAP 26% from 3, and Moses shoots 92% from the freethrow line, way the hell better then Wells, and Moses has a AWESOME midrange jumper, and he creates his own shot, drives, gets to the rim for lay ups well, and passes well, gets 5 assist per game, and scores, averaged about 15,16,15.5 per game, and semi occasionally to semi often scores about 25 to 30 to 35 points in a game.

That's all better then Wells.

Also between Rodman, Kymany, Powell, one of them should be able to eventually step into Bamba's Role, but even if they were to not be able to step into Bamba's Role eventually, Wells probably won't be able to step into Bamba's Role this coming season, and would probably only provide DEPTH to Rodman, Kymany, Powell.

Whereas Moses will LIKELY either just barely by skin of teeth do slightly better then Powell, Rice, and or PUSH Powell, Rice, an or be extremely GOOD, QUALITY, DEPTH to Powell, Rice.

A lot will depend on the about 43% chance that Gueye withdraws from draft, comes back to WSU.

If WSU gets Moses or a Transfer like Moses, and either gets Gueye back, or gets a semi good replacement transfer to replace losing Gueye, then WSU would probably be ok.

That's why a lot depends on whether Gueye comes back.

If Gueye comes back, then Smith, only needs to get a Moses type of player, preferably taller then Moses's 5-11 to 6-3, and instead 6-2.5 to 6-3 to 6-4 to 6-5.

If Gueye does Not come back, then Smith needs to get a Moses type, but taller, AND a 6-9.5 to 6-10 to 6-10.5 to 6-11 238 pound semi good replacement for Gueye.

It would be great if Smith gets all 3 of Moses, Wells, a Semi good replacement for Gueye, BUT I think it's more likely that Smith only gets 1 or 2 out of the 3.

And if Smith can only get 1 out of the 3, then prefer that Smith get at least semi good replacement for Gueye via JC Transfer, Transfer, Portal, etc.

And if Smith can only get 2 out of the 3, then either Moses or a Moses type but taller, and a semi good replacement for Gueye.

It would be awesome if Smith gets all 3, and Gueye coming back, but I don't think Smith gets all 4 of those things happening, and don't think Smith will get all 3 if Gueye does not come back.

But would be awesome if Smith gets all 3,4, and hope I am wrong about him not getting all 3,4.
 
Getting BOTH Moses(5-11 to 6-3 combo PG transfer from other thread), and Wells, It would either be great for DEPTH, or for IF Rodman, Rice, Powell, etc, can't either replace Bamba, an or can't be a good enough PG, etc

But if could only get 1 of them, instead of both, or none of them, I would choose Isiah Moses over Wells.

And that's because Isiah Moses can play both the PG, 2, SG spot, shoots 43% from 3, instead of Wells CRAP 26% from 3, and Moses shoots 92% from the freethrow line, way the hell better then Wells, and Moses has a AWESOME midrange jumper, and he creates his own shot, drives, gets to the rim for lay ups well, and passes well, gets 5 assist per game, and scores, averaged about 15,16,15.5 per game, and semi occasionally to semi often scores about 25 to 30 to 35 points in a game.

That's all better then Wells.

Also between Rodman, Kymany, Powell, one of them should be able to eventually step into Bamba's Role, but even if they were to not be able to step into Bamba's Role eventually, Wells probably won't be able to step into Bamba's Role this coming season, and would probably only provide DEPTH to Rodman, Kymany, Powell.

Whereas Moses will LIKELY either just barely by skin of teeth do slightly better then Powell, Rice, and or PUSH Powell, Rice, an or be extremely GOOD, QUALITY, DEPTH to Powell, Rice.

A lot will depend on the about 43% chance that Gueye withdraws from draft, comes back to WSU.

If WSU gets Moses or a Transfer like Moses, and either gets Gueye back, or gets a semi good replacement transfer to replace losing Gueye, then WSU would probably be ok.

That's why a lot depends on whether Gueye comes back.

If Gueye comes back, then Smith, only needs to get a Moses type of player, preferably taller then Moses's 5-11 to 6-3, and instead 6-2.5 to 6-3 to 6-4 to 6-5.

If Gueye does Not come back, then Smith needs to get a Moses type, but taller, AND a 6-9.5 to 6-10 to 6-10.5 to 6-11 238 pound semi good replacement for Gueye.

It would be great if Smith gets all 3 of Moses, Wells, a Semi good replacement for Gueye, BUT I think it's more likely that Smith only gets 1 or 2 out of the 3.

And if Smith can only get 1 out of the 3, then prefer that Smith get at least semi good replacement for Gueye via JC Transfer, Transfer, Portal, etc.

And if Smith can only get 2 out of the 3, then either Moses or a Moses type but taller, and a semi good replacement for Gueye.

It would be awesome if Smith gets all 3, and Gueye coming back, but I don't think Smith gets all 4 of those things happening, and don't think Smith will get all 3 if Gueye does not come back.

But would be awesome if Smith gets all 3,4, and hope I am wrong about him not getting all 3,4.

Of course this means that Smith will pull a rabbit out of his hat again, and get all 3,4 of those things, which would be awesome if that happens.
 
The 2 players both shoot 43 percent from the 3pt line and are both solid from the free throw line. One Moses at the JC level and the other Wells at the D-2 level. Both imo would provide depth vs being huge impact players. Moses scored over 30 points twice while Wells scored over 30 six times. If that’s your barometer.
Gueye has said publicly in his tweets he is done at WSU and will be pursuing a pro career no matter what. So while there is always a chance for a change of heart, I would count him as gone for sure at this point. At least as sure as anything can be in todays college bball world.
It may be just my imagination but doesn’t it seem like every year we have players visit/ show up on our radar/ get discussed at length then disappear or sign somewhere else. Again it could just be my imagination but it seems like players we hear about are less likely to be serious recruits and Smith will keep his cards close to the vest and pull the star recruit that we didn’t see coming out of the hat.
 
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He can definitely shoot at least at the D-II level. Seems to have a good release, so hopefully the shooting translates. I had my doubts about Roberts when he signed. I thought he might be a walk-on. I came around before the season but learned to not doubt this staff when it comes to these kinds of recruits. Should have learned year 1 with Rodman. I would be interested who else was involved as well though. Not many were knocking Romdan's door down.

Need some quickness now.
 
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While I agree with the staff's recruiting acumen and that Roberts was successful at WSU I still have some trepidation. Jumping from the DII level to DI is daunting. Jumping to the Pac-12 level is even more daunting. Roberts probably did not receive DI interest out of HS simply because of his size. That isn't the case with Wells. Wells looks to have quickness necessary to create, defend, etc. But is that quickness real or because his competition is not as quick. I sure hope he is a late bloomer and a six-tool guy as Smith describes him. He is, at least in part, going to have to fill the void left by Bamba.
 
I think the questions on his ability to score off the dribble and defend is understandable. Even shoot at this level. All TBD. I don't know if he is expected to make an impact next year or down the line.

On replacing Bamba, I'm not sure how that's possible. Along with Gueye, big hit we can't quickly absorb. Seems they are trying to add a PG to start, move Powell over, Rodman takes the other perimeter spot plus a rotation of Mullins and Rosario if he sticks around. I personally liked Rosario in his limited court time last year. Can he make a big jump and stay healthy? No idea.

It's still a new not fun world.
 
He can definitely shoot at least at the D-II level. Seems to have a good release, so hopefully the shooting translates. I had my doubts about Roberts when he signed. I thought he might be a walk-on. I came around before the season but learned to not doubt this staff when it comes to these kinds of recruits. Should have learned year 1 with Rodman. I would be interested who else was involved as well though. Not many were knocking Romdan's door down.

Need some quickness now.

Wells can drive, slash, beat defender of dribble and drive, slash by him, and get to rim, create own shot that gets to rim, and either lay up, and or dunk, finish, score at rim.

His weakness is that HE ONLY SHOOTS 26% FROM 3.

And he either doesn't shoot well at midrange jumpers, an or is about 30% to about 33% at mid range jumper, not good, not bad, semi slightly below average to semi average.

And he is not a good, great freethrow shooter. He is about somewhere between 59% to 73% from the Charity Line.

And he scores about 13 ppg, and game high's of about 23 ppg.

And that's at the D2 level.

In the Pac 12, he probably averages about 5.5 ppg to 6 to 6.5 to 7 ppg, game high's of about 11 ppg, and about 20% from 3, and about 24% from midrange jumper, and about 49% to 59% from the line.

He might do slightly better then that his 2nd year. And probably for sure probably clearly better and better then the slightly better of 2nd year, in, during his 3rd year, etc.

He has good athleticism, potential, and is kind of like a cross between Rodman, Bamba, and or has potential to be like Rodman, Bamba, except that he shoots BAD from 3, unlike Rodman, Bamba.

His first year, season, he probably won't be a replacement for Bamba.

Rodman probably is, can be a replacement for Bamba, as Rodman has athleticism, can drive, slash, create his own shot, get to, finish at rim, with either lay up, dunk, and he shoots 3's and mid range jumpers well, and has SEMI SOMEWHAT SEMI sorta, kinda, partially consistently has scored about 9.75 ppg, and game high's of about 17, 20,23,25,27,etc.

And the only reason Rodman didn't do better, score more etc, was because of Gueye, Bamba, etc, and because he did not ASSERT himself as much as he should have.

Rodman is very capable of replacing Bamba. Will he? Probably or don't know. We'll see.

Getting a Isiah Moses type but taller, or even a Isiah Moses type of the same size and height of Isiah Moses probably would, will allow that Isiah Moses type to either replace Bamba, or play PG, SG, and enable either Rodman, Kymany, Powell to replace Bamba.

While losing Bamba was not good, Bamba is replaceable, and not extremely hard to replace.

Gueye is, or can be extremely hard to replace, and harder to replace then Bamba.

But that's if Gueye does not return, withdraw from draft.

There is about a 43% to 49% chance that Gueye would, will return.
 
Wells can drive, slash, beat defender of dribble and drive, slash by him, and get to rim, create own shot that gets to rim, and either lay up, and or dunk, finish, score at rim.

His weakness is that HE ONLY SHOOTS 26% FROM 3.

And he either doesn't shoot well at midrange jumpers, an or is about 30% to about 33% at mid range jumper, not good, not bad, semi slightly below average to semi average.

And he is not a good, great freethrow shooter. He is about somewhere between 59% to 73% from the Charity Line.

And he scores about 13 ppg, and game high's of about 23 ppg.

And that's at the D2 level.

In the Pac 12, he probably averages about 5.5 ppg to 6 to 6.5 to 7 ppg, game high's of about 11 ppg, and about 20% from 3, and about 24% from midrange jumper, and about 49% to 59% from the line.

He might do slightly better then that his 2nd year. And probably for sure probably clearly better and better then the slightly better of 2nd year, in, during his 3rd year, etc.

He has good athleticism, potential, and is kind of like a cross between Rodman, Bamba, and or has potential to be like Rodman, Bamba, except that he shoots BAD from 3, unlike Rodman, Bamba.

His first year, season, he probably won't be a replacement for Bamba.

Rodman probably is, can be a replacement for Bamba, as Rodman has athleticism, can drive, slash, create his own shot, get to, finish at rim, with either lay up, dunk, and he shoots 3's and mid range jumpers well, and has SEMI SOMEWHAT SEMI sorta, kinda, partially consistently has scored about 9.75 ppg, and game high's of about 17, 20,23,25,27,etc.

And the only reason Rodman didn't do better, score more etc, was because of Gueye, Bamba, etc, and because he did not ASSERT himself as much as he should have.

Rodman is very capable of replacing Bamba. Will he? Probably or don't know. We'll see.

Getting a Isiah Moses type but taller, or even a Isiah Moses type of the same size and height of Isiah Moses probably would, will allow that Isiah Moses type to either replace Bamba, or play PG, SG, and enable either Rodman, Kymany, Powell to replace Bamba.

While losing Bamba was not good, Bamba is replaceable, and not extremely hard to replace.

Gueye is, or can be extremely hard to replace, and harder to replace then Bamba.

But that's if Gueye does not return, withdraw from draft.

There is about a 43% to 49% chance that Gueye would, will return.
I am not sure of his shooting percentages as a freshman, but I have read that as a sophomore he shot 51.7% from the floor, 43.8% from 3, and 86.1% from the free throw line.
 
I am not sure of his shooting percentages as a freshman, but I have read that as a sophomore he shot 51.7% from the floor, 43.8% from 3, and 86.1% from the free throw line.

If he shot 43% from 3, and 86% from line, then he did that as a Sophmore and was EXTREMELY BAD his freshman year to average the OFFICIAL stats of 26% from 3, etc, that I saw.

Also that 51% from the floor thing is MOST of that is, was lay ups, dunks, short runners, etc, where he beat a defender off the dribble, driver, slashed, got to, finished at baskets.

Most of that 51% from floor was USUALLY NOT mid range jumpers and 3's, etc.

In that respect he Wells has been like 6-6 Kymany Houinsou, except he is not a good passer like Kymany, and that like Kymany doesn't or didn't have a outside shot game, at least in his freshman year.

In his 1st year at WSU, I don't think he will shoot good from outside, because P5 being harder then Div 2, and because of P5 defender ability to use long arms, wingspan, to get hand in face, contest shot.

And I think that he CAN maybe be like Noah Williams.

Noah Williams was bad from outside 1st year, then great from outside 2nd year, then bad again from outside 3rd year before transferring to UW for 4th year, then transferring away from UW via portal for his 5th year, extra COVID year.

I just don't see Wells replacing Bamba, at least not for the first 3/5 to 2/3 of 1st year.

And I don't think he Wells will average better then 5-8.5 ppg, 28% from 3, 35% from midrange jumpers, 59% to 73% from line. 45.5% from floor: Most of that from lay ups, dunks, clean up, garbage rebound put backs, etc.

I hope I'm wrong tho.
 
Mikalas is looking at his freshmen stats. As a sophomore Wells shot 43% from the 3pt line and 86% from the free throw line and 51% overall couple those numbers with 8.7 rebounds a game and it’s easy to see why he was a D2 All American. How that will translate to D1 power conference is yet to be seen. Oh and he scored 30 plus six times and over 20 nineteen times.
 
Mikalas is looking at his freshmen stats. As a sophomore Wells shot 43% from the 3pt line and 86% from the free throw line and 51% overall couple those numbers with 8.7 rebounds a game and it’s easy to see why he was a D2 All American. How that will translate to D1 power conference is yet to be seen. Oh and he scored 30 plus six times and over 20 nineteen times.
That is the question, how well does it translate? WSU offered Bamba, but he was not highly recruited. Wells may have been lost because his recruitment was during Covid and he wasn't coming from a hotbed of basketball in Sacramento.

I don't believe that Bamba is an NBA player and I doubt that Wells is either. I have never seen Wells play, but if I were recruiting a D2 player, an All American is a good place to start. We shall have to see, but WSU may not be losing much.
 
If he shot 43% from 3, and 86% from line, then he did that as a Sophmore and was EXTREMELY BAD his freshman year to average the OFFICIAL stats of 26% from 3, etc, that I saw.

Also that 51% from the floor thing is MOST of that is, was lay ups, dunks, short runners, etc, where he beat a defender off the dribble, driver, slashed, got to, finished at baskets.

Most of that 51% from floor was USUALLY NOT mid range jumpers and 3's, etc.

In that respect he Wells has been like 6-6 Kymany Houinsou, except he is not a good passer like Kymany, and that like Kymany doesn't or didn't have a outside shot game, at least in his freshman year.

In his 1st year at WSU, I don't think he will shoot good from outside, because P5 being harder then Div 2, and because of P5 defender ability to use long arms, wingspan, to get hand in face, contest shot.

And I think that he CAN maybe be like Noah Williams.

Noah Williams was bad from outside 1st year, then great from outside 2nd year, then bad again from outside 3rd year before transferring to UW for 4th year, then transferring away from UW via portal for his 5th year, extra COVID year.

I just don't see Wells replacing Bamba, at least not for the first 3/5 to 2/3 of 1st year.

And I don't think he Wells will average better then 5-8.5 ppg, 28% from 3, 35% from midrange jumpers, 59% to 73% from line. 45.5% from floor: Most of that from lay ups, dunks, clean up, garbage rebound put backs, etc.

I hope I'm wrong tho.
I don't know how good of a passer Wells is, as I have never seen him play. But, looking at his statistics, he is a willing passer. He lead his team in assists last season.

Regarding his outside shooting, if he is a good shooter, that may translate with the way that WSU runs its offense. After all, the three-point line is the same and the basket is the same height. WSU does move the ball to the open man. This will also depend on how well the new bigs are able to pass the ball back out to the open man.
 
That is the question, how well does it translate? WSU offered Bamba, but he was not highly recruited. Wells may have been lost because his recruitment was during Covid and he wasn't coming from a hotbed of basketball in Sacramento.

I don't believe that Bamba is an NBA player and I doubt that Wells is either. I have never seen Wells play, but if I were recruiting a D2 player, an All American is a good place to start. We shall have to see, but WSU may not be losing much.

I think that Bamba after he finishes either his senior year or 5th year or extra COVID year, would, will probably be a last pick of 2nd round of draft FLIER, NBA G League, Signed undrafted free agent that makes a roster, or initially is a star pro overseas that eventually gets his shot, comes back to play in either G League, or a semi career deep reserve on lots of different NBA rosters.

If Bamba were to stay in draft instead of either transferring via portal and or staying at WSU, etc, then Bamba would NOT get drafted, would not make G League, would not be a signed undrafted free agent, would not become any type of NBA player.

He is NOT a NBA player now.

Bamba MIGHT BECOME a NBA player EVENTUALLY, IF he Bamba plays his cards, continues to develop, etc, right.

That said Rodman, Kymany Houinsou, Powell, Wells, Isiah Moses(If WSU, Smith gets him), one, maybe more of those players can probably either collectively or individually at least semi replace Bamba.

I more worried about replacing hits to front court in Jackson and Maybe Gueye leaving then about replacing Bamba.
 
I think that Bamba after he finishes either his senior year or 5th year or extra COVID year, would, will probably be a last pick of 2nd round of draft FLIER, NBA G League, Signed undrafted free agent that makes a roster, or initially is a star pro overseas that eventually gets his shot, comes back to play in either G League, or a semi career deep reserve on lots of different NBA rosters.

If Bamba were to stay in draft instead of either transferring via portal and or staying at WSU, etc, then Bamba would NOT get drafted, would not make G League, would not be a signed undrafted free agent, would not become any type of NBA player.

He is NOT a NBA player now.

Bamba MIGHT BECOME a NBA player EVENTUALLY, IF he Bamba plays his cards, continues to develop, etc, right.

That said Rodman, Kymany Houinsou, Powell, Wells, Isiah Moses(If WSU, Smith gets him), one, maybe more of those players can probably either collectively or individually at least semi replace Bamba.

I more worried about replacing hits to front court in Jackson and Maybe Gueye leaving then about replacing Bamba.
Bamba will never be good enough to play in the NBA. You have to have at least one great skill to make even the bottom of an NBA roster. He doesn't do anything great. Heck, as a third-year player, Bamba didn't even make the 1st or 2nd All-Conference team and the P12 was not the strongest of conferences.
 
If he chooses Bamba can make money playing basketball but it certainly won’t be in the NBA. Less than 500 players suit up for the NBA in any given year and most of those are returning multiple year players, probably less than 50 new players/ rookies in a year. Bamba is a solid college player but not close to that level.
 
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