Just for arguments sake.
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OSU and WSU are very similar and have similar poor track records throughout my time following PAC-12 basketball. That being said I think he would have a very similar level of success at WSU. I will be interested in seeing how he does without his son and the sons of his assistant. When that day comes we will truely see what he is capable of in Corvallis.
I don't think he would have come but he has been fortunate having "sons" at OSU to help get him over the hump. It's not that he isn't a decent coach but whether he was the answer at WSU. I personally haven't seen it from his time at OSU.
Exactly my thoughts. WSU would've been better at this point, largely because of Tres Tinkle and the Thompson boys. But once those guys are gone, I"m not sure if Wayne Tinkle will have long term success at OSU....and it would have been the same story at WSU.
Tinkle is better than Craig Robinson, Jay John, Ritchie McKay (who is now having some success at Liberty), Eddie Payne, and probably Jimmy Anderson....but it's been a long streak of uninspiring coaches since Ralph Miller.
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No coach is going yo have long term success at WSU because anyone who has short term success will be gone.
Along those lines, does anyone remember the old Rodney Dangerfield joke? He wouldnt join any club that would have him as a member. There are posters on the message boards who dont want anyone who would come to Pullman
Along those lines, does anyone remember the old Rodney Dangerfield joke? He wouldnt join any club that would have him as a member. There are posters on the message boards who dont want anyone who would come to Pullman
Doesn't change my opinion on Tinkle, but I just remembered that he did, at least, take OSU to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since Ralph Miller. His record in 5 years is greatly superior to that of Kent's. Whether or not people want to qualify that accomplishment with the coach's sons, it still was noteworthy.
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I know I would be much happier with his results, regardless of the circumstances, than where we during the Kent era. Hindsight is always 20-20. Russell Turner has my vote and after that would be a Bennett assistant like Ben Johnson, who I feel should have been elevated when Tony left. If it ain't broke why fix it.
I would without question prefer those results as well but you have to translate them to WSU in Pullman and without a practice facility. OSU is our closest like conference program but there are still some significant differences. As I said in another post successful coaches in Pullman have been really good. Ava has a point but I think it's also hard to discount how good we have needed a coach to be unless you really see Tinkle as a future HOF coach. I personally don't see it.
Would you rather a coach leave because they were successful or because they were fired? Coaches like Tinkle and Rice maybe feel like safe bets but like Bone might not be quite good enough to win in Pullman for any length of time and bolt. That isn't to say they are bad coaches but rather the challenge is too big in Pullman. Raveling, Sampson, and Tony (if he were hired straight away) were probably much riskier hires but had a lot more upside.
The myth WSU is a "coach killer" is BS IMO. WSU has produced Harshman, Raveling, Sampson, and Tony Bennett who all moved on to "bigger and better" and had long coaching careers. Stevens was in over his head at WSU but was able to move on to UNR.
Greenwood, Graham, and at the point Kent was in his career never would have had another D-1 head coaching opportunities at a P5/6 program. If someone leaves for a better job it makes it that much more of a myth. I think we are better off embracing being a stepping stone than being afraid of it.
