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Good phrase. Good title. With good blocking, I think he will do it.

God willing, the days of the D knowing almost with certainty that the play will be a pass are behind us. Make the D play honest for a while. Make them use DT's that are appropriate against the run game, rather than the pass game. Make them have inside LB's who can take on an O lineman, rather than just overgrown safeties who can help in coverage. Make them be concerned that a few times per game it might even be a play where the QB keeps the ball.

All of that will help our passing game. Add in WR's who can decide their pattern based upon what the D is doing, and if the QB and WR's can get on the same page, this should be a fun team to watch!

And FWIW, don't forget that we have a real D staff now, along with perhaps the best returning combo of kicker and punter that we've had (certainly gotta be close), and I'm happy that Vegas thinks so little of us. We may be able to do something this year!
 
Good phrase. Good title. With good blocking, I think he will do it.

God willing, the days of the D knowing almost with certainty that the play will be a pass are behind us. Make the D play honest for a while. Make them use DT's that are appropriate against the run game, rather than the pass game. Make them have inside LB's who can take on an O lineman, rather than just overgrown safeties who can help in coverage. Make them be concerned that a few times per game it might even be a play where the QB keeps the ball.

All of that will help our passing game. Add in WR's who can decide their pattern based upon what the D is doing, and if the QB and WR's can get on the same page, this should be a fun team to watch!

And FWIW, don't forget that we have a real D staff now, along with perhaps the best returning combo of kicker and punter that we've had (certainly gotta be close), and I'm happy that Vegas thinks so little of us. We may be able to do something this year!

I'm excited. Sure wish we had spring ball, though.

I think if we are patient with Rolovich, I think he will put something together we can be proud of. I would think a lot of today's players would want to play for him.
 
Good phrase. Good title. With good blocking, I think he will do it.

God willing, the days of the D knowing almost with certainty that the play will be a pass are behind us. Make the D play honest for a while. Make them use DT's that are appropriate against the run game, rather than the pass game. Make them have inside LB's who can take on an O lineman, rather than just overgrown safeties who can help in coverage. Make them be concerned that a few times per game it might even be a play where the QB keeps the ball.

All of that will help our passing game. Add in WR's who can decide their pattern based upon what the D is doing, and if the QB and WR's can get on the same page, this should be a fun team to watch!

And FWIW, don't forget that we have a real D staff now, along with perhaps the best returning combo of kicker and punter that we've had (certainly gotta be close), and I'm happy that Vegas thinks so little of us. We may be able to do something this year!
I’ll add to that an athletic QB running for 5, 10, 15 yards being a perfectly acceptable byproduct of a modern day passing attack, and not frowned upon or discouraged by the OC.
 
I’ll add to that an athletic QB running for 5, 10, 15 yards being a perfectly acceptable byproduct of a modern day passing attack, and not frowned upon or discouraged by the OC.
Ah yes the spread offense that Paul Wulff was trying to install with an athletic QB who could run the ball. Worked well with Jeff Tuel running for first downs against Idaho State.

And Walden having Mark Rypien run the rump turn option. Rypien said he got concussed once at the spring game (and likely suffers from CTE).

All Kyle Smith needs to do for the men's hoops team is recruit 6 ft 11 in guys who can shoot 3s and can bring up the ball.
 
Ah yes the spread offense that Paul Wulff was trying to install with an athletic QB who could run the ball. Worked well with Jeff Tuel running for first downs against Idaho State.

And Walden having Mark Rypien run the rump turn option. Rypien said he got concussed once at the spring game (and likely suffers from CTE).

All Kyle Smith needs to do for the men's hoops team is recruit 6 ft 11 in guys who can shoot 3s and can bring up the ball.

Oh you mean 6 ft 8.5, 6 ft 10, 6ft 11, basketball guys like Sean Elliot, Guy Williams, Magic Johnson, LeBron James, Rashard Lewis, etc, that can shoot 3's, pass, bring up ball, beat smaller, faster Iverson's off the dribble for easy lay ups, dunks.

Those do exist.

Just like Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Rodney Pete, Randall Cunningham, Jake the Snake Plummer, etc, Russel Wilson, Elway, etc, Mobile QB's, that can successfully make a spread offense more successful by both running successfully, and passing successfully.

Just because Paul Wulf was a dumbazz who stupidly ran his mobile QB, in garbage time in a almost meaningless Idaho State game.

And

Just because Jeff Tuel stupidly didnt slide, didnt get down, didnt get out of bounds, and instead stupidly fought for extra yards, in garbage time vs a almost meaningless Idaho State, etc, that, those things dont mean that a mobile QB in a Spread offense doesnt, wouldnt work.

Quite the opposite.

A mobile QB in a spread passing attack offense does work quite well, even for WSU.
 
Borghi 'cooking' early and often is about the only certainty surrounding this team at this point. Really hoping for some detailed practice breakdowns next week, because its been a long time since a blind reset like this one.
 
Ah yes the spread offense that Paul Wulff was trying to install with an athletic QB who could run the ball. Worked well with Jeff Tuel running for first downs against Idaho State.

And Walden having Mark Rypien run the rump turn option. Rypien said he got concussed once at the spring game (and likely suffers from CTE).

All Kyle Smith needs to do for the men's hoops team is recruit 6 ft 11 in guys who can shoot 3s and can bring up the ball.
Not really sure what to make of this...Do you think I’m longing for the days of CPW? Or maybe I see the value of a QB who’s a threat with his legs too...like about 99% of the big boy coaches on the planet. We are in Russell Wilson country too, you might not be a fan of the hawks (Broncos fan myself...ugh) but his ability to take off and run for 20+ yards and slide to safety doesn’t seem to be aging Pete Carroll too much.
 
Not really sure what to make of this...Do you think I’m longing for the days of CPW? Or maybe I see the value of a QB who’s a threat with his legs too...like about 99% of the big boy coaches on the planet. We are in Russell Wilson country too, you might not be a fan of the hawks (Broncos fan myself...ugh) but his ability to take off and run for 20+ yards and slide to safety doesn’t seem to be aging Pete Carroll too much.

What I’m not a fan of is somehow thinking that guys like Wilson grow on trees and are easy to recruit. It reminds me of the days when Price could only find a QB once every four years and you had to hope he stayed healthy to make a bowl game every three years or so.
 
What I’m not a fan of is somehow thinking that guys like Wilson grow on trees and are easy to recruit. It reminds me of the days when Price could only find a QB once every four years and you had to hope he stayed healthy to make a bowl game every three years or so.

Our current QB's are all probably more mobile than Minshew. Doesn't mean I want them running a bunch though. Last thing we need is injuries with as thin as we are.
 
What I’m not a fan of is somehow thinking that guys like Wilson grow on trees and are easy to recruit. It reminds me of the days when Price could only find a QB once every four years and you had to hope he stayed healthy to make a bowl game every three years or so.
When they are already on your roster you don’t have to recruit them. Everything I’ve heard and seen DeLaura is pretty fleet afoot. I’m not talking about running read option every play I’m talking about not chewing your QBs ass when he takes advantage of 20 yards of green in front of him and gets out of bounds.
That and the emergence of the read option in college/HS has led to more and better athletes playing QB, which means those guys aren’t few and far between like they used to be. As a coach you can get with the times and take advantage of having an extra guy on the field....or not.
 
What I’m not a fan of is somehow thinking that guys like Wilson grow on trees and are easy to recruit. It reminds me of the days when Price could only find a QB once every four years and you had to hope he stayed healthy to make a bowl game every three years or so.
Why do you hate Menkebaum so much?
 
When they are already on your roster you don’t have to recruit them. Everything I’ve heard and seen DeLaura is pretty fleet afoot. I’m not talking about running read option every play I’m talking about not chewing your QBs ass when he takes advantage of 20 yards of green in front of him and gets out of bounds.
That and the emergence of the read option in college/HS has led to more and better athletes playing QB, which means those guys aren’t few and far between like they used to be. As a coach you can get with the times and take advantage of having an extra guy on the field....or not.

Can you actually name an instance where Leach chewed a QB’s ass for gaining twenty yards?
 
Ah yes the spread offense that Paul Wulff was trying to install with an athletic QB who could run the ball. Worked well with Jeff Tuel running for first downs against Idaho State.

And Walden having Mark Rypien run the rump turn option. Rypien said he got concussed once at the spring game (and likely suffers from CTE).

All Kyle Smith needs to do for the men's hoops team is recruit 6 ft 11 in guys who can shoot 3s and can bring up the ball.

You are way too invested in Mike Leach and the air raid dogma. Cougs recognize he did a Jesus Christ job with the program and are damn thankful, but the man isn't Cougar football and the "air raid" has proven to be a big number, but big game failure offense. We want to see more balance on offense and out of the QB because like or not Minshew, showed us the real potential in it, i.e. air raid +. The fact is Minshew's "run threat" ability had a lot to do with his success. Its simple, its harder to rush 3 and drop 8, when you know the QB or RB can and will run for cheap yards if you do. It is easier to pass against 6 and 7 than 8.

You do know that Jayden, Leach's post Minshew QB 4 star recruit, is a true dual threat guy too. Just maybe even intransigent Leach, saw the advantage in it too? Ultimately, a "run threat" QB does mean "running QB," it means a QB who will take cheap running yards, it it is available.
 
You are way too invested in Mike Leach and the air raid dogma. Cougs recognize he did a Jesus Christ job with the program and are damn thankful, but the man isn't Cougar football and the "air raid" has proven to be a big number, but big game failure offense. We want to see more balance on offense and out of the QB because like or not Minshew, showed us the real potential in it, i.e. air raid +. The fact is Minshew's "run threat" ability had a lot to do with his success. Its simple, its harder to rush 3 and drop 8, when you know the QB or RB can and will run for cheap yards if you do. It is easier to pass against 6 and 7 than 8.

You do know that Jayden, Leach's post Minshew QB 4 star recruit, is a true dual threat guy too. Just maybe even intransigent Leach, saw the advantage in it too? Ultimately, a "run threat" QB does mean "running QB," it means a QB who will take cheap running yards, it it is available.

The "we" you refer to you is actually a you. You, along with Biggs, Ed and few others continue to show that you have no idea how the Air Raid worked, or how Leach coached.

De Laura was the best QB available late in the cycle. He would have been coached the same way every other QB Leach has recruited was coached. The odds of Leach implementing zone read are/were zero percent. The last read is scramble. The urban myth that Leach's QBs weren't allowed to run is in fact an urban myth. Minshew did it, so di Harrell. I continue to believe that Halliday, Falk and Gordon running with the ball were terrible decisions for those guys to make the vast majority of the time. Halliday and Falk had snail like speed. Gordon literally tripped over his own feet on a QB draw. Those three guys started for about 6.5 of Leach's 8 seasons, but they were the best QBs on the roster.
 
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The "we" you refer to you is actually a you. You, along with Biggs, Ed and few others continue to show that you have no idea how the Air Raid worked, or how Leach coached.

De Laura was the best QB available late in the cycle. He would have been coached the same way every other QB Leach has recruited was coached. The odds of Leach implementing zone read are/were zero percent. The last read is scramble. The urban myth that Leach's QBs weren't allowed to run is in fact an urban myth. Minshew did it, so di Harrell. I continue to believe that Halliday, Falk and Gordon running with the ball were terrible decisions for those guys to make the vast majority of the time. Halliday and Falk had snail like speed. Gordon literally tripped over his own feet on a QB draw. Those three guys started for about 6.5 of Leach's 8 seasons, but they were the best QBs on the roster.

So when are you going to tell us that swing passes and WR screens are the same thing as running plays?
 
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Although the two of you are being snarky with each other (nothing new there), the point is actually relevant to some of the recent discussions in this and other threads.

While neither of you, nor I, would call a swing pass or WR screen the same thing as a run play, it is useful for discussion purposes to recognize that for Mike Leach, those two things fill part of the role in his offense that, for other offenses, a running play would fill. So no, they are not the same thing. But for Leach, those two plays are the sort of bread and butter short range, high probability play that many offenses would use a run to fulfill. They fit the Leach AR concept better than a run, because they spread the field more than a run would do, and that is integral to Leach's concept.

There are two areas where the AR hits a snag with an over-reliance on those sorts of plays; one we've discussed ad nauseum and one we haven't. The ad nauseum issue is execution. CML wants to see a completion % of close to 70% because it means that the passes were made and executed, but that does not mean that the blocking that may have been needed (WR screens especially) was executed. A lot of those WR screen completions went for little or no gain (and sometimes even a loss) because the blocking was not there. The less discussed point but in my view perhaps the most important has to do with the personnel that the D has on the field.

What I think Jimmie Lake recognized that so many others have missed is that it is not just "rush 3/drop 8". It is more about what players you have rushing 3 and dropping 8, and the scheme they use. Jimmy was perhaps the first in the PAC to recognize that you didn't need 3 guys who could stop a rush on the line, because there was only a 6-8% chance of a running play, and if you schemed the D properly (right number in the box) you could even trigger the run in those situations...so you were essentially never surprised by a run. So rather than linemen who were good against the rush, what you needed were your best 3 pass rushers, or a rotation that kept 3 good pass rushers fresh. You did not need a true inside LB unless you were inside the 15 yard line, because the chances of needing to fight off an O lineman trying to execute a run block were really minimal. So the 8 that you were dropping were a mix of DB's...safeties and cornerbacks...and maybe an outside LB if the guy was really quick.

What seems pretty clear to me after the LSU and Arkansas games is that if an SEC team arrogantly thinks that their usual way of doing business on D is fine for the air raid, Leach will pull an LSU on them. On the other hand, the SEC's worst team the past several years beat Leach by copying Jimmy Lake, right down to putting the best pass rushers on the line and having a back 8 that was mostly DB's. Arkansas went a step further, and also did a credible job of copying Lake's back 8 coverage schemes, at least to an average fan's view. Presumably LSU had more & better athletes than Arkansas...but the Arkansas D staff clearly out-coached the LSU D staff. And while it is possible that MSU was overconfident and did not prepare with enough intensity, I think we've seen both ends of the SEC spectrum that Leach will face. A team with better athletes was poorly coached and lost. A team with likely a little poorer athletes was properly coached and beat MSU. And since MSU is still learning the air raid, the level of execution that Leach needs to win against a well coached team is not likely to be there on offense this season. MSU seemed to have a pretty good D, and they may contribute enough to help MSU get some wins. But barring some impressive strides in execution this year, the LSU signature upset may be about all they have to brag about...unless other SEC D coordinators are as dumb as the LSU D coordinator.

And MSU won't run the ball any more than WSU did. So their execution needs a big improvement, and that includes blocking on WR screens.
 
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Although the two of you are being snarky with each other (nothing new there), the point is actually relevant to some of the recent discussions in this and other threads.

While neither of you, nor I, would call a swing pass or WR screen the same thing as a run play, it is useful for discussion purposes to recognize that for Mike Leach, those two things fill part of the role in his offense that, for other offenses, a running play would fill. So no, they are not the same thing. But for Leach, those two plays are the sort of bread and butter short range, high probability play that many offenses would use a run to fulfill. They fit the Leach AR concept better than a run, because they spread the field more than a run would do, and that is integral to Leach's concept.

There are two areas where the AR hits a snag with an over-reliance on those sorts of plays; one we've discussed ad nauseum and one we haven't. The ad nauseum issue is execution. CML wants to see a completion % of close to 70% because it means that the passes were made and executed, but that does not mean that the blocking that may have been needed (WR screens especially) was executed. A lot of those WR screen completions went for little or no gain (and sometimes even a loss) because the blocking was not there. The less discussed point but in my view perhaps the most important has to do with the personnel that the D has on the field.

What I think Jimmie Lake recognized that so many others have missed is that it is not just "rush 3/drop 8". It is more about what players you have rushing 3 and dropping 8, and the scheme they use. Jimmy was perhaps the first in the PAC to recognize that you didn't need 3 guys who could stop a rush on the line, because there was only a 6-8% chance of a running play, and if you schemed the D properly (right number in the box) you could even trigger the run in those situations...so you were essentially never surprised by a run. So rather than linemen who were good against the rush, what you needed were your best 3 pass rushers, or a rotation that kept 3 good pass rushers fresh. You did not need a true inside LB unless you were inside the 15 yard line, because the chances of needing to fight off an O lineman trying to execute a run block were really minimal. So the 8 that you were dropping were a mix of DB's...safeties and cornerbacks...and maybe an outside LB if the guy was really quick.

What seems pretty clear to me after the LSU and Arkansas games is that if an SEC team arrogantly thinks that their usual way of doing business on D is fine for the air raid, Leach will pull an LSU on them. On the other hand, the SEC's worst team the past several years beat Leach by copying Jimmy Lake, right down to putting the best pass rushers on the line and having a back 8 that was mostly DB's. Arkansas went a step further, and also did a credible job of copying Lake's back 8 coverage schemes, at least to an average fan's view. Presumably LSU had more & better athletes than Arkansas...but the Arkansas D staff clearly out-coached the LSU D staff. And while it is possible that MSU was overconfident and did not prepare with enough intensity, I think we've seen both ends of the SEC spectrum that Leach will face. A team with better athletes was poorly coached and lost. A team with likely a little poorer athletes was properly coached and beat MSU. And since MSU is still learning the air raid, the level of execution that Leach needs to win against a well coached team is not likely to be there on offense this season. MSU seemed to have a pretty good D, and they may contribute enough to help MSU get some wins. But barring some impressive strides in execution this year, the LSU signature upset may be about all they have to brag about...unless other SEC D coordinators are as dumb as the LSU D coordinator.

And MSU won't run the ball any more than WSU did. So their execution needs a big improvement, and that includes blocking on WR screens.

My problem with those plays being called run plays is they are not really moving the safeties all that much....nor are you attacking all parts of the field which is basically the whole idea behind his scheme.

The most explosive offenses we have seen in the past 10 years(Oregon w Chip Kelly...Baylor with Sleezeball) is that they get the safeties out of position.

With the way Leach runs his offense, the safety just has to keep things in front of him.

If you start gashing them with the run, the safeties will tend to creep up and that opens up passing lanes and allows for more explosives. So I guess that is why that argument always drove me nuts.

And I agree with you about the rush 3 drop 8.

Having a 22 yr old kid throw the ball into a 8 man coverage 60 times a game and try to matriculate the ball down the field is not something I would bet my cash on.
 
Although the two of you are being snarky with each other (nothing new there), the point is actually relevant to some of the recent discussions in this and other threads.

While neither of you, nor I, would call a swing pass or WR screen the same thing as a run play, it is useful for discussion purposes to recognize that for Mike Leach, those two things fill part of the role in his offense that, for other offenses, a running play would fill. So no, they are not the same thing. But for Leach, those two plays are the sort of bread and butter short range, high probability play that many offenses would use a run to fulfill. They fit the Leach AR concept better than a run, because they spread the field more than a run would do, and that is integral to Leach's concept.

There are two areas where the AR hits a snag with an over-reliance on those sorts of plays; one we've discussed ad nauseum and one we haven't. The ad nauseum issue is execution. CML wants to see a completion % of close to 70% because it means that the passes were made and executed, but that does not mean that the blocking that may have been needed (WR screens especially) was executed. A lot of those WR screen completions went for little or no gain (and sometimes even a loss) because the blocking was not there. The less discussed point but in my view perhaps the most important has to do with the personnel that the D has on the field.

What I think Jimmie Lake recognized that so many others have missed is that it is not just "rush 3/drop 8". It is more about what players you have rushing 3 and dropping 8, and the scheme they use. Jimmy was perhaps the first in the PAC to recognize that you didn't need 3 guys who could stop a rush on the line, because there was only a 6-8% chance of a running play, and if you schemed the D properly (right number in the box) you could even trigger the run in those situations...so you were essentially never surprised by a run. So rather than linemen who were good against the rush, what you needed were your best 3 pass rushers, or a rotation that kept 3 good pass rushers fresh. You did not need a true inside LB unless you were inside the 15 yard line, because the chances of needing to fight off an O lineman trying to execute a run block were really minimal. So the 8 that you were dropping were a mix of DB's...safeties and cornerbacks...and maybe an outside LB if the guy was really quick.

What seems pretty clear to me after the LSU and Arkansas games is that if an SEC team arrogantly thinks that their usual way of doing business on D is fine for the air raid, Leach will pull an LSU on them. On the other hand, the SEC's worst team the past several years beat Leach by copying Jimmy Lake, right down to putting the best pass rushers on the line and having a back 8 that was mostly DB's. Arkansas went a step further, and also did a credible job of copying Lake's back 8 coverage schemes, at least to an average fan's view. Presumably LSU had more & better athletes than Arkansas...but the Arkansas D staff clearly out-coached the LSU D staff. And while it is possible that MSU was overconfident and did not prepare with enough intensity, I think we've seen both ends of the SEC spectrum that Leach will face. A team with better athletes was poorly coached and lost. A team with likely a little poorer athletes was properly coached and beat MSU. And since MSU is still learning the air raid, the level of execution that Leach needs to win against a well coached team is not likely to be there on offense this season. MSU seemed to have a pretty good D, and they may contribute enough to help MSU get some wins. But barring some impressive strides in execution this year, the LSU signature upset may be about all they have to brag about...unless other SEC D coordinators are as dumb as the LSU D coordinator.

And MSU won't run the ball any more than WSU did. So their execution needs a big improvement, and that includes blocking on WR screens.

Leach’s scheme attacks everywhere but between the tackles. It enables the defense to remove a defensive lineman. It allows the MLB to play like or actually be a safety. Lake took away the deep ball, he took away the screen pass and Leach takes away the run game for you. What’s left? Swing passes and crossing routes. Seriously, how many games are you really gonna win when the DC can shrink your playbook to swing passes and crossing routes??? Leach is lucky that only uw and Cal knew what to do.

You see defenses adapt to what Leach does.... Leach refuses to adapt to what defenses are doing to stop him.

As soon as Leach attacks the defense between the tackles and forces the defense to add another lineman and have a MLB actually play like a linebacker and not a safety ~ he blows up college football.
 
Ah yes the spread offense that Paul Wulff was trying to install with an athletic QB who could run the ball. Worked well with Jeff Tuel running for first downs against Idaho State.

And Walden having Mark Rypien run the rump turn option. Rypien said he got concussed once at the spring game (and likely suffers from CTE).

All Kyle Smith needs to do for the men's hoops team is recruit 6 ft 11 in guys who can shoot 3s and can bring up the ball.

OMG...gotta give Wulff credit for not losing to a 1AA school. But glad you are over 2011 .....
 
The "we" you refer to you is actually a you. You, along with Biggs, Ed and few others continue to show that you have no idea how the Air Raid worked, or how Leach coached.

De Laura was the best QB available late in the cycle. He would have been coached the same way every other QB Leach has recruited was coached. The odds of Leach implementing zone read are/were zero percent. The last read is scramble. The urban myth that Leach's QBs weren't allowed to run is in fact an urban myth. Minshew did it, so di Harrell. I continue to believe that Halliday, Falk and Gordon running with the ball were terrible decisions for those guys to make the vast majority of the time. Halliday and Falk had snail like speed. Gordon literally tripped over his own feet on a QB draw. Those three guys started for about 6.5 of Leach's 8 seasons, but they were the best QBs on the roster.

Don't you fact check yourself? Jayden committed to WSU on 10/2/19, i.e. more than 10 weeks prior to his 12/18/19 signing date, i.e. he was a relatively early Leach commit. Also, add to the "we" list virtually everyone above, but you and Fnu. "We," that is "most fans," believe that more balance on offense would be helpful.

Also kick the hell out of "the strawman" zone read option argument. No one but you is suggesting a run first offense! Same goes for your Leach, has a QB run option too argument. Every healthy QB has a run option when the WRs are covered and protection demands it. Leach doesn't have a coverage or MLB/spy read QB run play. If he had our QBs would have had far more runs against drop 8 defenses. Finally, you don't need to be fleet of foot to run into space vacated by drop 8 coverage. By design the QB shouldn't need to beat anyone. If he has to beat someone, he shouldn't run, the QB run read is doing its job.

For a guy who is convinced he is the smartest man in the room, you don't show it sometimes.
 
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Leach’s scheme attacks everywhere but between the tackles. It enables the defense to remove a defensive lineman. It allows the MLB to play like or actually be a safety. Lake took away the deep ball, he took away the screen pass and Leach takes away the run game for you. What’s left? Swing passes and crossing routes. Seriously, how many games are you really gonna win when the DC can shrink your playbook to swing passes and crossing routes??? Leach is lucky that only uw and Cal knew what to do.

You see defenses adapt to what Leach does.... Leach refuses to adapt to what defenses are doing to stop him.

As soon as Leach attacks the defense between the tackles and forces the defense to add another lineman and have a MLB actually play like a linebacker and not a safety ~ he blows up college football.

That was my beef with him. I thought his offense could be unstoppable had he done the above. Been saying that for a while...but people got triggered.

He's smart enough to do it. He's just too stubborn to. He would rather prove you can throw every down instead of actually winning.

The only other argument is that he's not smart enough to change and adapt...but I'm not buying that one.
 
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Don't you fact check yourself? Jayden committed to WSU on 10/2/19, i.e. more than 10 weeks prior to his 12/18/19 signing date, i.e. he was a relatively early Leach commit. Also, add to the "we" list virtually everyone above, but you and Fnu. "We," that is "most fans," believe that more balance on offense would be helpful.

Also kick the hell out of "the strawman" zone read option argument. No one but you is suggesting a run first offense! Same goes for your Leach, has a QB run option too argument. Every healthy QB has a run option when the WRs are covered and protection demands it. Leach doesn't have a coverage or MLB/spy read QB run play. If he had our QBs would have had far more runs against drop 8 defenses. Finally, you don't need to be fleet of foot to run into space vacated by drop 8 coverage. By design the QB shouldn't need to beat anyone. If he has to beat someone, he shouldn't run, the QB run read is doing its job.

For a guy who is convinced he is the smartest man in the room, you don't show it sometimes.

For those that actually pay attention, a QB committing in October is very late in the process. The vast majority of QBs are off the board by May. So, the question is whether you have any clue what you are talking about?

And for a guy that isn't the smartest guy in the room, you prove it.
 
That was my beef with him. I thought his offense could be unstoppable had he done the above. Been saying that for a while...but people got triggered.

He's smart enough to do it. He's just too stubborn to. He would rather prove you can throw every down instead of actually winning.

The only other argument is that he's not smart enough to change and adapt...but I'm not buying that one.

If you were a coach that ran the ball... call your offense the “ground raid”.... 70 of 75 snaps youre gonna run.... what defense would you see??? 8 in the box and 3 deep??? Maybe even 9 in the box and 2 deep???? How would you loosen the defense??? What plays would you call to force the defense to take more guys out of the box???

The idea that an offense that passes the ball 70 of 75 snaps and does nothing to try and force the defense into moving more players from coverage into the box to loosen up the passing game is..... to quote Leach.... “mind numbing.”

Leach is a blessing and a curse. He is a blessing because he digs your program out of a hole.

Leach is a curse because he shows you how far he can take your program but then shits the bed cause he is too arrogant and stubborn to run the ball to loosen the defense. And proceeds to lose big rivalry games that could put your school into the league championship game and national playoff conversation.

He is 75% of the way to being a title coach. The other 25%, where you have to adapt or be adept at play calling or play smart special teams is where titles are won. He doesnt have it. That is where his coaching talent and ability ends. He could do it. He is a smart man. His ego gets in the way. Mike Leach stops Mike Leach.
 
Yes, Mike Leach is indeed the governor on Mike Leach. It is good to have the conviction of your beliefs. But being totally convicted to your beliefs can limit your ability to recognize when events have overtaken a view that you formed 30 years ago. I think that is where CML finds himself now. And really, it won't matter for a year or two while he builds his program. But along about year 3 in the SEC, if he still refuses to adapt to changes over the past 3 decades, he will pay for it.
 
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