Letter from Chun
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Pac-12 legal FAQs: Updates on the lawsuit filed by Washington State and Oregon State
The schools are seeking clarity from the court on the makeup of the Pac-12 board.
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The 10 outbound schools believe they have not given legal notice. WSU and OSU dispute that position on the grounds that the schools have publicized their moves on their websites and social media, and their presidents have spoken publicly about the decisions.
Washington and Oregon even acknowledged that they would not be involved in key decisions.
The bylaws do not specify how notice of withdrawal must be delivered.
However, OSU and WSU believe the relevant precedent was established by the Pac-12, which removed USC, UCLA and Colorado from the board after those schools announced their departures (prior to the collapse of the conference on Aug. 4).
Serious question...how would you feel if OrSt received AND accepted an offer to a conference (let's say Big12)...leaving us behind, considering how would you feel if WE accepted the same offer that excluded them? Are we (in your mind) a packaged deal? Are we REALLY brothers? I say this while wearing an OrSt hat today with a COUG shirt.
To me, we are together. Not seeking a deal without them. But, financially, aren't and should we really only about ourselves? That's all I have to say about that
To me, we are together. Not seeking a deal without them. But, financially, aren't and should we really only about ourselves? That's all I have to say about that
We should fight like hell to be together but at the end of the day you have to look out for yourself and would understand if they did the same (but feel pretty good they’d fight like hell too).
With other P5 leagues moving towards more league games AND non con schedules being made years in advance, finding 8 football games for 2024 could be a nightmare and end in disaster.
You could see WSU playing FCS or even d2 teams just to fill the schedule.
The roster will empty if Chun doesn’t have a schedule to show kids by the end of the season.
Your overlooking that during COVID, when cancelations happened last second, that schedule replacements, schedules were cobbled together last second.
Also pretty sure that WSU has had lots of behind the scenes laying the groundwork of conditionally cobbling together a scheduling alliance.
At ultimate extreme latest the schedules will be announced by the beginning of spring ball at the extreme ultimate latest, and probably announced by November, December, after the bowl game.
Also WSU is probably keeping all student athletes secretly informed behind closed doors, behind the scenes, so that they don't panick, leave, etc.
it is incredible to me that the departing schools still cling to the no notice given strategy, notice was clearly givenPac-12 legal FAQs: Updates on the lawsuit filed by Washington State and Oregon State
The schools are seeking clarity from the court on the makeup of the Pac-12 board.
The 10 outbound schools believe they have not given legal notice. WSU and OSU dispute that position on the grounds that the schools have publicized their moves on their websites and social media, and their presidents have spoken publicly about the decisions.
Washington and Oregon even acknowledged that they would not be involved in key decisions.
The bylaws do not specify how notice of withdrawal must be delivered.
However, OSU and WSU believe the relevant precedent was established by the Pac-12, which removed USC, UCLA and Colorado from the board after those schools announced their departures (prior to the collapse of the conference on Aug. 4).
A Judge already ruled against them once, but they still argue against the judge's ruling, and the judge will rule against them again.
All the judge ruled was that no decision could be made on the future of the conference assets until he made a ruling. Only a corrupt judge would have ruled against us at this point.
When your wife blindsides you, telling you she is done with you, packs her clothes, and moves out into another man's dwelling, she has clearly given notice.
I see very little different in this case.
I see very little different in this case.
Well...that isn't the current situation. All our conference "wife" (wives?) has done is said that she's planning to sleep with another dude in the future. Since she hasn't actually slept with the dude, she's claiming that saying on social media that she's going to be sleeping with that dude doesn't count as telling you that she's sleeping with another dude.
There’s a BYU joke in there somewhereWell...that isn't the current situation. All our conference "wife" (wives?) has done is said that she's planning to sleep with another dude in the future. Since she hasn't actually slept with the dude, she's claiming that saying on social media that she's going to be sleeping with that dude doesn't count as telling you that she's sleeping with another dude.
Except the prenup said announcing she was going to sleep with another guy before a certain date means she gets nothing. And she then announced before that date.Well...that isn't the current situation. All our conference "wife" (wives?) has done is said that she's planning to sleep with another dude in the future. Since she hasn't actually slept with the dude, she's claiming that saying on social media that she's going to be sleeping with that dude doesn't count as telling you that she's sleeping with another dude.
Infidelity is never this well thought out. Which is why the departing programs have been caught with their pants down.
Happened to a friend of mine earlier this year. He still insists they are together. She's bonin' other dudes.
Me thinks they are not together
I was under the impression that the other teams have begun the public process of scrubbing their PAC schedules so they can schedule with the new boyfriends. That would seem to count...?Well...that isn't the current situation. All our conference "wife" (wives?) has done is said that she's planning to sleep with another dude in the future. Since she hasn't actually slept with the dude, she's claiming that saying on social media that she's going to be sleeping with that dude doesn't count as telling you that she's sleeping with another dude.
No amount of legal analysis here is going to be dispositive or even well-informed, guys. Not that you can't talk about it. Have at it, I guess. But there are key facts we don't know, and nobody here, including me, is a high-powered litigator focused on contract disputes under the relevant governing law. I don't think we even have seen a full set of the bylaws, with all relevant incorporated materials, interpretive provisions, etc., all of which are key to this. Nobody here knows shit about how this will turn out. There also are all kinds of ancillary facts relating to, e.g., leverage, appetite for litigation, business considerations of various players, and practical issues regarding budgets, money, scheduling, etc., all of which may come into play.
Well since the presiding judge in this case is a Coug, I think we are in good shape legally.
If the judge is a good judge that will work against us. He'll force us to make a strong argument on why we should get everything.
Hey, now. We're at least a month away from a quarterly update on Loyal's dong.
@Loyal Coug1 ... speaking of damaged body parts, how are your battered ribs and wrenched ankle doing these days?
Hopefully you'll be in good enough shape to make the drive to Pullman for the game against Arizona next weekend
My ribs are healed, my ankle is still a mess but improving. Thanks for asking. No, I am not coming to the AZ game.
I'm honored, but YakiCoug might come out of retirement for that opportunity
The overall legal situation is pretty simple. They gave notice. They are gone from the governing body. It rolls from there.
However, as 425 suggests, the devil is always in the details...in this case, the contract language/minutia. What is clear is that the villains did not bother to do due diligence before pulling their own plug. It is always tough to be in a situation where you are forced to do due diligence after the fact, because you often find stuff you did not expect or anticipate. And in the case of the PAC, the villains will have to swallow a pretty expensive pill. Will it be for the whole 9 yards? Don't know yet. But regardless of exact amount/proportion of assets, this pill will not taste good.
However, as 425 suggests, the devil is always in the details...in this case, the contract language/minutia. What is clear is that the villains did not bother to do due diligence before pulling their own plug. It is always tough to be in a situation where you are forced to do due diligence after the fact, because you often find stuff you did not expect or anticipate. And in the case of the PAC, the villains will have to swallow a pretty expensive pill. Will it be for the whole 9 yards? Don't know yet. But regardless of exact amount/proportion of assets, this pill will not taste good.
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