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This what is clearly lacking. We are good at times but we lack consistency. This is on Jake and how they coach. Too emotional on the good wins. See Apple cup. Doesn’t leave me thinking performances like SDSU are not acceptable.

Leach was much better in this area

 
This what is clearly lacking. We are good at times but we lack consistency. This is on Jake and how they coach. Too emotional on the good wins. See Apple cup. Doesn’t leave me thinking performances like SDSU are not acceptable.

Leach was much better in this area

Not sure that using the Apple Cup and Mike Leach is a good analogy........ :)
 
Not sure that using the Apple Cup and Mike Leach is a good analogy........ :)
Maybe not, but the fact is:
1. Team was up and defense played great vs. UW.
2. Team has been flat the post Apple Cup and to me it's consistency and discipline.

The Mike Leach reference was he'd be on his kids weekly to treat every game like a championship game. Same mentality that went into the Apple Cup win, goes into the New Mexico second half.

As for the offensive strategy, it wasn't until late in the 4th until they started to take what the defense was giving them. It was the quick hitters and taking "chunk yards." If we do that earlier in the 3rd, we are up by 7 points to win the game.

That said, our defense just isn't getting it done. Jake is a defensive coach. Same players that beat UW. What is different? Lines up with mentality, discipline and coaching style.
 
Maybe not, but the fact is:
1. Team was up and defense played great vs. UW.
2. Team has been flat the post Apple Cup and to me it's consistency and discipline.

The Mike Leach reference was he'd be on his kids weekly to treat every game like a championship game. Same mentality that went into the Apple Cup win, goes into the New Mexico second half.

As for the offensive strategy, it wasn't until late in the 4th until they started to take what the defense was giving them. It was the quick hitters and taking "chunk yards." If we do that earlier in the 3rd, we are up by 7 points to win the game.

That said, our defense just isn't getting it done. Jake is a defensive coach. Same players that beat UW. What is different? Lines up with mentality, discipline and coaching style.
Jakes a defensive coach but he has a defensive coordinator on his staff to coordinate and call the defense. I would expect after that game he will make a change in the offseason. This is not Dickerts defense and I’m sure he’s more disgusted with the plan and execution than anyone here is.

Ultimately it falls on him so it will be up to him to find the right coaches to get back on track. There’s clearly a talent issue as well. Durant is a perfect example. How many times has he been caught flat footed and had receivers blow by him. You can scheme all you want, if your players look like that they shouldn’t be playing.
 
Jakes a defensive coach but he has a defensive coordinator on his staff to coordinate and call the defense. I would expect after that game he will make a change in the offseason. This is not Dickerts defense and I’m sure he’s more disgusted with the plan and execution than anyone here is.

Ultimately it falls on him so it will be up to him to find the right coaches to get back on track. There’s clearly a talent issue as well. Durant is a perfect example. How many times has he been caught flat footed and had receivers blow by him. You can scheme all you want, if your players look like that they shouldn’t be playing.
I don't know what Dickert wants this defense to look like, other than that he wants to generate turnovers. That sounds like bend but don't break to me, with turnovers to mask the deficiencies. Given where WSU is, the expansion back to 105 scholarship players, and a $0.00 NIL budget, this at least in a broad sense is what we're going to see. It does not take any genius level intellect to see that speed, size, strength and athletic ability have been declining since Leach left. Durant's replacement, if there actually is someone better will be the same guy or marginally better. Just like Lockett's replacement was the same guy or marginally better.

With that said, we should be able to line up and if necessary call an audible ten games into the season. The defense has been glacially slow in that regard. Whatever system they are using to communicate needs to fixed like 9 games ago, or jettisoned in the offseason. I get that we're sticking new guys in all over the line up and will continue as long as there is a portal, but **** me it's pathetic to watch blown assignments game after game.
 
Maybe not, but the fact is:
1. Team was up and defense played great vs. UW.
2. Team has been flat the post Apple Cup and to me it's consistency and discipline.

The Mike Leach reference was he'd be on his kids weekly to treat every game like a championship game. Same mentality that went into the Apple Cup win, goes into the New Mexico second half.

As for the offensive strategy, it wasn't until late in the 4th until they started to take what the defense was giving them. It was the quick hitters and taking "chunk yards." If we do that earlier in the 3rd, we are up by 7 points to win the game.

That said, our defense just isn't getting it done. Jake is a defensive coach. Same players that beat UW. What is different? Lines up with mentality, discipline and coaching style.
Road games have been flat. Home games have been generally fine. SJSU appears be one of the better teams in the MWC.

It is worth remembering that we have a sophomore QB in his first season as starter. Parker is a true freshman. Pulalasi is a RS freshman. Schlenbaker is a RS sophomore. Consistency can be elusive. Keeping Mateer, the OL and RB units as intact is the key to next season, IMO. Pole is the only senior on the OL.
 
Road games have been flat. Home games have been generally fine. SJSU appears be one of the better teams in the MWC.

It is worth remembering that we have a sophomore QB in his first season as starter. Parker is a true freshman. Pulalasi is a RS freshman. Schlenbaker is a RS sophomore. Consistency can be elusive. Keeping Mateer, the OL and RB units as intact is the key to next season, IMO. Pole is the only senior on the OL.
Mateer is gone.
 
Mateer is gone.

I agree that he is likely not going to be here....but I'll hold off on definitive statements until he enters the portal. I think WSU coaches knew that he was likely to bail when they chose to sit Eckhaus in the blowout win over Hawaii. That kept Eckhaus' redshirt alive.
 
I don't know what Dickert wants this defense to look like, other than that he wants to generate turnovers. That sounds like bend but don't break to me, with turnovers to mask the deficiencies. Given where WSU is, the expansion back to 105 scholarship players, and a $0.00 NIL budget, this at least in a broad sense is what we're going to see. It does not take any genius level intellect to see that speed, size, strength and athletic ability have been declining since Leach left. Durant's replacement, if there actually is someone better will be the same guy or marginally better. Just like Lockett's replacement was the same guy or marginally better.

With that said, we should be able to line up and if necessary call an audible ten games into the season. The defense has been glacially slow in that regard. Whatever system they are using to communicate needs to fixed like 9 games ago, or jettisoned in the offseason. I get that we're sticking new guys in all over the line up and will continue as long as there is a portal, but **** me it's pathetic to watch blown assignments game after game.
That’s sort of been the game plan since Grinch. Be aggressive, get in the backfield, cause negative plays and turnovers and live with the occasional 80 yard house call. In general I think it’s a good plan when you’re outmanned and can’t line up in a base defense and win.
 
That’s sort of been the game plan since Grinch. Be aggressive, get in the backfield, cause negative plays and turnovers and live with the occasional 80 yard house call. In general I think it’s a good plan when you’re outmanned and can’t line up in a base defense and win.

I think we are all on board with the scheme and plan, the execution and lack of discipline is costing us dearly. That falls on coaching.
 
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I agree that he is likely not going to be here....but I'll hold off on definitive statements until he enters the portal. I think WSU coaches knew that he was likely to bail when they chose to sit Eckhaus in the blowout win over Hawaii. That kept Eckhaus' redshirt alive.
They could have played Eckhaus anyway. You can play in 3 games now and keep your redshirt.

And really, the little we've seen of Potter looked promising.
 
That’s sort of been the game plan since Grinch. Be aggressive, get in the backfield, cause negative plays and turnovers and live with the occasional 80 yard house call. In general I think it’s a good plan when you’re outmanned and can’t line up in a base defense and win.
I'd be OK with that if we were actually getting in the backfield, causing negative plays and turnovers. But UNM's QB was never touched, we had zero TFLs, and no takeaways. We couldn't read their offense or anticipate a play. We couldn't tackle, we couldn't get off blocks, and somehow we couldn't get a 198 pound QB on the ground. How many times did he get hit after 1-2 yards, and then push the pile for a gain of 7?

Pathetic.
 
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I'd be OK with that if we were actually getting in the backfield, causing negative plays and turnovers. But UNM's QB was never touched, we had zero TFLs, and no takeaways. We couldn't read their offense or anticipate a play. We couldn't tackle, we couldn't get off blocks, and somehow we couldn't get a 198 pound QB on the ground. How many times did he get hit after 1-2 yards, and then push the pile for a gain of 7?

Pathetic.
Right. I didn’t see any of that. Looked like we were playing on our heels and letting them dictate every snap.

I’ll take the 80 yard touchdown with the chance to make a play in the backfield over the effortless chunk plays, play after play, like what we saw on Saturday. Whatever that crap was, that is the definition of insanity.
 
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That’s sort of been the game plan since Grinch. Be aggressive, get in the backfield, cause negative plays and turnovers and live with the occasional 80 yard house call. In general I think it’s a good plan when you’re outmanned and can’t line up in a base defense and win.
Schmedding loves the base defense. Zero sacks, FF, or INTs against New Mexico. Sad that we can't get off the field without dialing up pressure.
 
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