Can some engineer take a look at the stadium and calculate how many seats would be added if we brought the end zone bowl up to the height of the sideline seats? It would have to be a deck of course because of the concessions, etc underneath but the actual number of seats should be similar to just continuing the horseshoe. One thing that always surprised me was just how much distance is in between the corners of the stadium in the bowl end. maybe finishing the bowl would add 10,000 seats. Remember, it used to be 40,000 seats when we had the wooden bowl and it came nowhere near the top of the reserved seats.
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With the new video screen, it may not make sense for (at least) a few years to add an upper deck in that section.
I've always been in the camp that the next martin stadium expansion should take place on the north side. Either remodel that entire section, or add another deck/luxury seat structure over the existing seats. My camp is expensive though, so it likely won't happen.
I've always been in the camp that the next martin stadium expansion should take place on the north side. Either remodel that entire section, or add another deck/luxury seat structure over the existing seats. My camp is expensive though, so it likely won't happen.
I remember hearing that the north side expansion was a no go due to the soft, swampy ground under and around mooberry track. Does that ring a bell to anybody else?
I am sure that I read that here(edit. was hear), but just because it was posted here, doesn't mean it is true. Is the north side a possiblity?
I am sure that I read that here(edit. was hear), but just because it was posted here, doesn't mean it is true. Is the north side a possiblity?
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If you are going to do it, better to do it right. A complete teardown and rebuild of the northside is the only real option when the funds are available, IMO.
Doing a spatial snapshot.....there's something like 2200 seats available to the bottom of the scoreboard (assuming 1/3 the way up) and maybe a little more than 3 times as much all the way up.....7500 or so more.
We talked about that ad nauseum a while back. I did a bit of research. It turns out there was a pond there (Silver Lake), which I'm guessing is where all the rumors about it being swampy comes from. Here you can see the lake, on the far left. I can't get it to show here, but copy/paste the below address… It's worth it. It's Rogers Field around 1910.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shookphotos/4707195363/in/photostream/
If you delve a little deeper, you'll find that the pond was man-made, though.
Here's the schools engineering plat:
In 1928, there was this "not too accurate map" drawn by a student. You can see the pond.
In 1935, you can see they filled it in, for the "new field", baseball.
If they filled it in properly, I'd guess there's no REAL swampy ground. But who knows. I'd also guess that if they didn't fill it in properly, it wouldn't take much to dig down to whatever depth the pond was (and not filled in properly) and fill it in with proper fill. But just a guess. Interesting fact. They built the Field House on a portion of Silver Lake...Below is a link that explains Silver Lake history well.
http://wsm.wsu.edu/s/index.php?id=196
We talked about that ad nauseum a while back. I did a bit of research. It turns out there was a pond there (Silver Lake), which I'm guessing is where all the rumors about it being swampy comes from. Here you can see the lake, on the far left. I can't get it to show here, but copy/paste the below address… It's worth it. It's Rogers Field around 1910.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shookphotos/4707195363/in/photostream/
If you delve a little deeper, you'll find that the pond was man-made, though.
Here's the schools engineering plat:
In 1928, there was this "not too accurate map" drawn by a student. You can see the pond.
In 1935, you can see they filled it in, for the "new field", baseball.
If they filled it in properly, I'd guess there's no REAL swampy ground. But who knows. I'd also guess that if they didn't fill it in properly, it wouldn't take much to dig down to whatever depth the pond was (and not filled in properly) and fill it in with proper fill. But just a guess. Interesting fact. They built the Field House on a portion of Silver Lake...Below is a link that explains Silver Lake history well.
http://wsm.wsu.edu/s/index.php?id=196
Funny as f'n hell....but reminiscent of someone who needs a little more time off. I'm responding to 95's post and still laughing.
A man-made lake that existed for less than 30 years, and probably wasn't very deep, shouldn't create issues due to swampy ground. It's always possible that there's a strange pocket of clay, but from looking at old pictures and maps, I haven't seen any indication of either. I also remember finding some boring logs that just showed soil in the depths that would need to be excavated, and the couple holes I ever dug/drilled in Pullman had typical Palouse silt in them.
Besides, even if the ground is swampy, it doesn't mean it has to be excavated completely, there's always the option of pilings.
Besides, even if the ground is swampy, it doesn't mean it has to be excavated completely, there's always the option of pilings.
Thanks 72. So if accurate, finishing the Bowl brings up to +/- 40,000 seats. Basically the capacity we had 25 years ago (I think 38,000 is more realistic - harkening back to the 1989 USC game which was reported at 38K and change and there could not have been an empty seat in the place). That is what is so odd about the whole capacity discussion. We held and got that many people that long ago. How many more people live in Washington now? How many 10's of thousands of additional WSU grads are there now? And what is funny is that the parking and access seems worse than it was 8,000 seats ago. You didn't need to close Stadium Way 25 years ago.
Related topic. Bigg's argument about how 55 of 60 (or whatever) 4 stars go to schools with 50K+ stadiums. Biggs, nice stat but I think you are drawing the wrong conclusion. 4 stars get recruited by, and prefer to go to, schools that are winning and/or have a high profile, reputation, maybe even - gasp! - high profile academic programs. Those happen to be the same schools that are big and have big stadiums. I will agree with you to a certain point, that despite our new additions, we are a rinky dink looking stadium. However, put the second tier bowl in, maybe squeeze a few hundred seats into the grassy area between the luxury suites and the FOB, and the stadium is balanced, fully enclosed and looks pretty big. It will never look BIG like the SEC or B1G venues, but it won't pale in comparison to Stanford, Arizona, Reser or even Autzen. And it will beat the heck out of almost all of the lesser conference venues.
Exactly, it just has to look and feel like a large structure (go vertical baby!), the actual number of seats is much less important. Plus, as I mentioned before, if expansion involves bench seating than we can REALLY pack in more than the "official" capacity.
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