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Kompromat is real word for a reason.

And a dumbass six time bankrupted porn star hush money paying MFer who’s desperate for financing for his next bankruptcy is the exact type of guy that Putin and friends salivate over.
So, when does Vlad conquer the world?
 
Huh? Explain please that I can't click on hyperlinks. And try to do so without a flippant little dig? I read your linked stuff.

Also, you are having your little sandbox fight on a public message board. I'll chime in if I want to. Maybe you infants toddlers children men should do this via private messages?
What did the former German Chancellor say?
 
What did the former German Chancellor say?
This? Help me here - since when did the USA start being spelled NATO? On the other hand, never mind. I'm out of this one. You guys carry on.

"former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, and several Turkish officials — all of whom were involved at various times in the talks — have said that NATO officials stopped or undermined negotiations."
 
“So you’re quitting” Says the guy playing dead.

I read the opinion piece you linked and responded to it. it’s Kremlin-approved propaganda. There’s not a lot more to say. Tucker Carlson awaits your arrival in Moscow.


You’re so predictable. If you disagree with it it’s Russian propaganda. If someone disagrees with you they’re a Russian asset. You must be Joe Scarborough.

How many people directly involved in the negotiations need to speak on this for you to believe it?
 
This? Help me here - since when did the USA start being spelled NATO? On the other hand, never mind. I'm out of this one. You guys carry on.

"former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, and several Turkish officials — all of whom were involved at various times in the talks — have said that NATO officials stopped or undermined negotiations."
In today’s lesson for old people using technology, if you touch or click on his name it will talk you to the article that directly quotes him. That’s called a hyperlink. Try it.

And you may have heard that the United States is the largest member of NATO.
 
So, when does Vlad conquer the world?
You’re asking the wrong question. It’s not about when, it’s about how long and how aggressively he’s gonna try.

Did Hitler conquer the world? Do you care what happens to sovereign nations and the long term consequences of giving too much rope and power to an expansionist dictator? Probably not as long as you think your taxes are gonna be a couple of points lower.
 
You’re so predictable. If you disagree with it it’s Russian propaganda. If someone disagrees with you they’re a Russian asset. You must be Joe Scarborough.

How many people directly involved in the negotiations need to speak on this for you to believe it?

Neat.

Even Arakhamia says what your pimping is Kremlim propaganda.

“Johnson’s denials were echoed by Arakhamia, who said that Russia deliberately distorted his comments to support its own narratives about the war. Johnson’s “just fight” comments were made in the context of consultations with Ukraine’s western allies about how to combat Russia’s invasion, he said. He also insisted that it would have been impossible for any western officials to issue orders to Zelensky.”

 
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In today’s lesson for old people using technology, if you touch or click on his name it will talk you to the article that directly quotes him. That’s called a hyperlink. Try it.

And you may have heard that the United States is the largest member of NATO.
Again with your snide little insults. And I try sooo hard to engage with you on a mature level.


So I clicked and read the above article you seem to be referring to. I thought that this little excerpt was interesting:

"Schroeder remains one of the very few former Western leaders that remains close to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two men worked together for almost a decade when Schroeder was German chancellor. Schroeder was immediately given a seat on the board of Russia’s biggest oil company Rosneft after he left office. He has remained a strong advocate for Russian interests and was a vocal Putin supporter in the run-up to the war in Ukraine."

Was Schroeder the Chancellor when Germany talked Biden into dropping sanctions against the almost completed Nordstream 2 pipeline that goes to Germany? That would explain a lot. BTW, I understand that Nordstream 2 is still not in service.

And finally, I find it hard to believe that Ukraine (and all the other at-risk European countries) have to take their instructions directly from "the US". Note that no specific US names are mentioned by Schroeder. I'm thinking that if Zelensky wanted to agree to a peace treaty with Putin he could do it all by his big self.

Now carry on.........
 
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Neat.

Even Arakhamia says what your pimping is Kremlim propaganda.

“Johnson’s denials were echoed by Arakhamia, who said that Russia deliberately distorted his comments to support its own narratives about the war. Johnson’s “just fight” comments were made in the context of consultations with Ukraine’s western allies about how to combat Russia’s invasion, he said. He also insisted that it would have been impossible for any western officials to issue orders to Zelensky.”

Nice find Willie......... :)
 
Nice find Willie......... :)
When I read the op-ed from Responsible Statecraft the author linked other articles including one of his own but from what I can tell all the threads lead back to that same one statement made by Arakhamia - an incredible amount of mileage given to one arguably throwaway quote ( or misquote).
 
You’re asking the wrong question. It’s not about when, it’s about how long and how aggressively he’s gonna try.

Did Hitler conquer the world? Do you care what happens to sovereign nations and the long term consequences of giving too much rope and power to an expansionist dictator? Probably not as long as you think your taxes are gonna be a couple of points lower.
But Putin = Hitler so it’s inevitable that he tries. Just like the Sudetenland! We’re living in 1939!

And if you paid attention to what I post about China you wouldn’t post stupid questions.
 
Neat.

Even Arakhamia says what your pimping is Kremlim propaganda.

“Johnson’s denials were echoed by Arakhamia, who said that Russia deliberately distorted his comments to support its own narratives about the war. Johnson’s “just fight” comments were made in the context of consultations with Ukraine’s western allies about how to combat Russia’s invasion, he said. He also insisted that it would have been impossible for any western officials to issue orders to Zelensky.”

Former Israeli PM. How many does it take?

 
But Putin = Hitler so it’s inevitable that he tries. Just like the Sudetenland! We’re living in 1939!

And if you paid attention to what I post about China you wouldn’t post stupid questions.
Exactly what someone says when they can’t answer a question. Your quips get increasingly cuter the more wrong you are!
 
Again with your snide little insults. And I try sooo hard to engage with you on a mature level.


So I clicked and read the above article you seem to be referring to. I thought that this little excerpt was interesting:

"Schroeder remains one of the very few former Western leaders that remains close to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two men worked together for almost a decade when Schroeder was German chancellor. Schroeder was immediately given a seat on the board of Russia’s biggest oil company Rosneft after he left office. He has remained a strong advocate for Russian interests and was a vocal Putin supporter in the run-up to the war in Ukraine."

Was Schroeder the Chancellor when Germany talked Biden into dropping sanctions against the almost completed Nordstream 2 pipeline that goes to Germany? That would explain a lot. BTW, I understand that Nordstream 2 is still not in service.

And finally, I find it hard to believe that Ukraine (and all the other at-risk European countries) have to take their instructions directly from "the US". Note that no specific US names are mentioned by Schroeder. I'm thinking that if Zelensky wanted to agree to a peace treaty with Putin he could do it all by his big self.

Now carry on.........
To sum it up, the following people involved in the negotiations say peace was blocked:
The Ukrainian representative;
The former German Chancellor; and
The former Israeli Prime Minister.

On top of that you have Boris Johnson’s trip to Kyiv to deep six it. Do you believe Johnson was there on behalf of the UK only?

Does the fact the American media largely didn’t cover it mean anything to you? The same media that declined to cover or actively covered up Biden’s decline. The same media that allowed the Biden administration to redefine recession and just say the “border is secure.” The best way to not have to deal with blowback is to never have to answer any questions about blocking a peace deal. Biden doesn’t care about a few hundred thousand Ukrainians, or a couple hundred billion in aid.
 
Not any more it won’t be that’s for sure! You finally got one (sorta)!
When you and Ed go to the ghost of Joe McCarthy rallies do you chant “remember the Sudetenland” and high five?

The United States spent 20 years on the war on terror while China was building itself into a military that can rival the United States. You want to spend more time and energy on another distraction?
 
When you and Ed go to the ghost of Joe McCarthy rallies do you chant “remember the Sudetenland” and high five?

The United States spent 20 years on the war on terror while China was building itself into a military that can rival the United States. You want to spend more time and energy on another distraction?
I know you’re well aware China is supporting Russias war efforts among other things. Which makes it really weird that your arguments here would assume we are still sailing around in wooden boats shooting cannonballs at each other.
 
Thanks Stretch... he was 96 living on his own, fully mobil, driving, trading stocks then one day in May he was carrying his coffee, tray and computer in from the back porch and his keg snapped right below the hip and hasnt walked since.

However, I will say if I can book in 96 healthy years, never been in the hospital prior to this accident, no cancer, and his kids and two grandkids are healthy. He has his marbles even at 97.... so it is amazing and choose to look at it as a gift .

Now I will question whether he is licid ad he did get his R on in the last election.
Good for him! I suppose I should make some crack about how it is unfortunate that his intelligence didn't get passed on down to his eldest son? Just kidding, of course, but it really is fortunate that your dad has maintained his sharp mind until such a ripe old age. It is unfortunate that his body let him down like that, and I hope he is able to rehabilitate it and get several more years of enjoying life.

I have been fortunate that all of my parents, my wife, and her parents all had their wits about them when they died. Now my dad was having some memory issues, but it wasn't bad. And his mom, my grandmother sadly had to spend 8-10 years in an Alzheimer's facility before she died. I'll tell you, nothing will tear your heart out more than going to visit a loved one in a facility like that when they no longer even recognize you. I left there with tears in my eyes every time.

Anyway, best wishes to your Dad......
 
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When you and Ed go to the ghost of Joe McCarthy rallies do you chant “remember the Sudetenland” and high five?

The United States spent 20 years on the war on terror while China was building itself into a military that can rival the United States. You want to spend more time and energy on another distraction?

About 80 years ago, I said that history has a funny way of repeating itself.

Trump doesn’t equal Hitler, because in four years, Trump didn’t wage war with anyone. But in those same four years, neither did Hitler. And for someone who considers himself so smart, Hitler wasn’t just known for World War II—he was also notorious for consolidating absolute power. His control over the media, his messaging, and the sycophants around him—does that sound familiar?

We understand that you think a country with more nukes aimed at us should be allowed to freely take over territory. And those who believe in the right of self-determination, according to you, are living in 1939.

So, it seems clear: you’re giving Putin Ukraine and its resources, and you believe he will stop there.
How many wars has China participated in over the last 200 years? Not a truly warring country. Meanwhile, our military budget is three times theirs annually.

If we’re not ready to confront China now, when will we be—when our budget is five times theirs?
 
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One, about 80 years ago I said history has a funny way of repeating itself.

Trump doesnt equal Hitler because in four years Trump didnt wage war with anyone. But in four years neither did Hitler. And for someone who thinks he is so smart, Hitler was nit only known for WW 2 but also for his absolute power and how he consolidated the power. Media, message, pussys around him. Sounds familiar.

We get you think a country that has more nukes pointed at us should freely take over territory , and those who believe in the right of determination are living in 1939.

So it is clear , you are giving Putin Ukraine and its resources. And you believe he will stop there .

How many wars has China participated in yhe last two hundred years? Not a real warring country. And our military budget is three times theirs on an annual basis .

If we arent ready to do battle with China, when will we be, when our budget is five times?
It’s real simple, China is an economic problem more than a military problem and the only lens that people like gibbons look at foreign policy with is that of their wallets.
 
Good for him! I suppose I should make some crack about how it is unfortunate that his intelligence didn't get passed on down to his eldest son? Just kidding, of course, but it really is fortunate that your dad has maintained his sharp mind until such a ripe old age. It is unfortunate that his body let him down like that, and I hope he is able to rehabilitate it and get several more years of enjoying life.

I have been fortunate that all of my parents, my wife, and her parents all had their wits about them when they died. Now my dad was having some memory issues, but it wasn't bad. And his mom, my grandmother sadly had to spend 8-10 years in an Alzheimer's facility before she died. I'll tell you, nothing will tear your heart out more than going to visit a loved one in a facility like that when they no longer even recognize you. I left there with tears in my eyes every time.

Anyway, best wishes to your Dad......
Stretch my dad would chuckle over your crack about his intelligence skipping a generation....and if you were to go see him when I do, as he does with all the nurses, I will introduce myself, and then he will tell the story when the back up qb had his one chance to throw a TD, the one time it actually hit a recover or the back in the hands, and I dropped the pass. Not "here is my nice son, or he has two great daughters, played way over the rim with his wife", but what makes him laugh is the dropped pass. He to this day remembers the back up qb's name.

And he knows even n his 30's he could change a light bulb, but his father with one arm built our cottage in southern Maryland, wired the house before they even had electricity on that side of town. So while that gene skipped my dad, at least I can change a light bulb!
 
One, about 80 years ago I said history has a funny way of repeating itself.

Trump doesnt equal Hitler because in four years Trump didnt wage war with anyone. But in four years neither did Hitler. And for someone who thinks he is so smart, Hitler was nit only known for WW 2 but also for his absolute power and how he consolidated the power. Media, message, pussys around him. Sounds familiar.

We get you think a country that has more nukes pointed at us should freely take over territory , and those who believe in the right of determination are living in 1939.

So it is clear , you are giving Putin Ukraine and its resources. And you believe he will stop there .

How many wars has China participated in yhe last two hundred years? Not a real warring country. And our military budget is three times theirs on an annual basis .

If we arent ready to do battle with China, when will we be, when our budget is five times?
Using the amount of money spent to determine if one thing is better then some other thing can be a dangerous method. Some other method of determining proficiency or strength may yield much better results.

Great example: The United States far and away leads the world in $$$ spent per student on education, yet our results are very poor, as we rank between 35th and 40th in the world in math/science/technology proficiency.
 
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Stretch my dad would chuckle over your crack about his intelligence skipping a generation....and if you were to go see him when I do, as he does with all the nurses, I will introduce myself, and then he will tell the story when the back up qb had his one chance to throw a TD, the one time it actually hit a recover or the back in the hands, and I dropped the pass. Not "here is my nice son, or he has two great daughters, played way over the rim with his wife", but what makes him laugh is the dropped pass. He to this day remembers the back up qb's name.

And he knows even n his 30's he could change a light bulb, but his father with one arm built our cottage in southern Maryland, wired the house before they even had electricity on that side of town. So while that gene skipped my dad, at least I can change a light bulb!
Congratulations of that advanced skill!! :)

You did mean dad could not change the bulb, right?
 
It’s real simple, China is an economic problem more than a military problem and the only lens that people like gibbons look at foreign policy with is that of their wallets.
This is completely wrong.

To use your own arguments against you, obviously you are a Chinese asset. How do you like fluffing Xi?
 
About 80 years ago, I said that history has a funny way of repeating itself.

Trump doesn’t equal Hitler, because in four years, Trump didn’t wage war with anyone. But in those same four years, neither did Hitler. And for someone who considers himself so smart, Hitler wasn’t just known for World War II—he was also notorious for consolidating absolute power. His control over the media, his messaging, and the sycophants around him—does that sound familiar?

We understand that you think a country with more nukes aimed at us should be allowed to freely take over territory. And those who believe in the right of self-determination, according to you, are living in 1939.

So, it seems clear: you’re giving Putin Ukraine and its resources, and you believe he will stop there.
How many wars has China participated in over the last 200 years? Not a truly warring country. Meanwhile, our military budget is three times theirs annually.

If we’re not ready to confront China now, when will we be—when our budget is five times theirs?
You said that 80 years ago?

Can we get a firm number of the Hitlers on the loose right now? Putin and Trump is two? Any others?
 
Here’s a 60 minutes report on the un-warlike Chinese coast guard ramming a Philippines coast guard vessel.

 
A little reminder of un-warlike China’s response to Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan.

 
Un-warlike China’s position
Using the amount of money spent to determine if one thing is better then some other thing can be a dangerous method. Some other method of determining proficiency or strength may yield much better results.

Great example: The United States far and away leads the world in $$$ spent per student on education, yet our results are very poor, as we rank between 35th and 40th in the world in math/science/technology proficiency.
Purchasing power parity is real. The yuan goes a lot further than the dollar on military spending.
 
Using the amount of money spent to determine if one thing is better then some other thing can be a dangerous method. Some other method of determining proficiency or strength may yield much better results.

Great example: The United States far and away leads the world in $$$ spent per student on education, yet our results are very poor, as we rank between 35th and 40th in the world in math/science/technology proficiency.
That’s because we stopped teaching kids logic and problem solving and started telling them it doesn’t matter if they get the right answer as long as they’re happy with the answer they did get.
 
Using the amount of money spent to determine if one thing is better then some other thing can be a dangerous method. Some other method of determining proficiency or strength may yield much better results.

Great example: The United States far and away leads the world in $$$ spent per student on education, yet our results are very poor, as we rank between 35th and 40th in the world in math/science/technology proficiency.
Yes but our top-notch K-12 teachers are woefully underpaid (so they say). I don't know how Washington ranks nationwide as far as student success, but our K-12 teachers make more than a lot of college professors. Not saying they are worth a shit either, just sayin'.
 
Here’s a 60 minutes report on the un-warlike Chinese coast guard ramming a Philippines coast guard vessel.

So if I run into your car in a public parking lot that’s more of an act of aggression than coming into your house, raping your women, killing your friends and family and taking over a couple of rooms in your house? Interesting argument!
 
So if I run into your car in a public parking lot that’s more of an act of aggression than coming into your house, raping your women, killing your friends and family and taking over a couple of rooms in your house? Interesting argument!

Please share your knowledge on China’s military capabilities and compare that it to Russia’s. I’ll wait patiently.

If the US is going to be the world police, you better enlist, along with everyone in your family and handover everything you’ve got to the federal government. There are bad guys in Syria, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela, Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and of course, Russia and China. That’s just the short list. We haven’t even talked about Africa. Team America World Police is going to be busy.

Probably easier to just fluff Xi and call Putin Hitler. So keep at it.
 
Please share your knowledge on China’s military capabilities and compare that it to Russia’s. I’ll wait patiently.

If the US is going to be the world police, you better enlist, along with everyone in your family and handover everything you’ve got to the federal government. There are bad guys in Syria, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela, Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and of course, Russia and China. That’s just the short list. We haven’t even talked about Africa. Team America World Police is going to be busy.

Probably easier to just fluff Xi and call Putin Hitler. So keep at it.
Since you are basically the asshole in the bar on Good Will Hunting who can regurgitate pages out of history books but have no capability or desire to apply what you’ve read to the world you live in, I’ll simply ask, do you like apples?
 
Since you are basically the asshole in the bar on Good Will Hunting who can regurgitate pages out of history books but have no capability or desire to apply what you’ve read to the world you live in, I’ll simply ask, do you like apples?
Oh, burn! Twenty-five year old movie reference! How will I sleep tonight?!?!?

Do you want to tell us how many Hitlers are loose? Or do you need to consult with Joe and Mika on that?
 
Oh, burn! Twenty-five year old movie reference! How will I sleep tonight?!?!?

Do you want to tell us how many Hitlers are loose? Or do you need to consult with Joe and Mika on that?
Oh you’ve seen the movie! Do you want to tell us if you like apples?
 
Oh you’ve seen the movie! Do you want to tell us if you like apples?
Double burn!!!!

Honey crisps, Cosmic Crisps, Golden Delicious, Red Delicious, Fuji and Gala.

Do you need Rachel Maddow to tell you how many Hitlers are out and about?
 
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