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She's kind of a honey. So I'm good with her. Maybe I need to go and negotiate the merger in person.Mountain West commissioner Gloria Nevarez 'ready' to add Wash. St. and Oregon St. - Bronco Nation News
College football has turned into a full-scale game of Risk. Diplomacy is necessary. Conquest is inevitable. And when it finally ends, the power dynamic will be stark. There will be those who seemingly control everything and those off to the side pouting about how unfair the world is. The reality...
Yep, we’d rapidly become a medium to smallish fish with a move to the Mtn West.
As opposed to what? Dropping down to the Big Sky? Nobody other than the Mtn West wants us. We Cougs need to get our heads around this. I know it sucks, but it is what it is.
Yeah this idea we’d be a big fish is laughable. You’re immediately on an equal playing field as everyone else. Our Pac football history means nothing in this scenario.
the only other possible option is limping along and hoping to add several schools to the pac, which may or may not be possible
WSU has been winning in football. And putting eyes in front of TV sets. And has built a national brand. Something that Arizona, Arizona State, and Colorado haven’t done. Try another narrative, all this one does is confirm we should have been invited to the party.The Horned Frogs went from a G5 to P5 only because of football. Big Cats & Beavers can do the same. You & Benny Beaver have to win in football more than want to win in football now.
I’m not saying we won’t compete just fine. I’m saying we aren’t going to show up and be the big bully on the block like some people here are implying. Hell in the past several years we’ve lost to FSU, BSU, Utah State, Colorado State. That was with a much richer TV revenue stream and the “prestige” of the Pac-12. The playing field will be level and we will be in the same battles we were with Utah and Oregon.
Yeah, but we are a research institution which means...
Fair. How has that worked out for us over the past decade? Your numbers (thank you btw) just confirm what I was saying. We’d be middle of the pac. Not a big fish/bully of the conference. I’d love to see our fan base make up the difference or even 1/2. Not likely, in fact probably more likely to go the other way. I’ve already seen people here say they are done donating in protest of Chun and Schultz.Not really the same battles we were with against Utah and Oregon. When you look at athletic budgets, here is the breakdown for expenses by team for 2022:
Arizona: $125 million
Arizona State: $124 million
Cal: $115 million
CU: $95 million
Oregon: $141 million
OSU: $88 million
Stanford: not listed
UCLA: $131 million
USC: not listed
Utah: $112 million
UW: $149 million
WSU: $84 million
Mountain West Teams?
Boise State: $50 million
Fresno State: $47 million
Colorado State: $61 million
SDSU: $67 million
San Jose State: $39 million
Air Force: not listed
Hawaii: $48 million
UNLV: $63 million
Nevada: $45 million
New Mexico: $45 million
Wyoming: $47 million
Utah State: $43 million
So, even if WSU takes a $25 million per year hit on the media side, we would still be at the upper end of conference in terms of funding. Right now, Colorado and OSU are the only two that aren't spending $30 million per year more than WSU in the Pac-12. It's up to Coug fans to decide if we want to be competitive if we end up moving.
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That’s basically what I thought, if WSU doubles down they can be dominate in the m w c and that’s not a bad place to be. The bad move would be to let a Schulz/chun downside the football program to be a middling m w c team, that you would probably never recover from.Not really the same battles we were with against Utah and Oregon. When you look at athletic budgets, here is the breakdown for expenses by team for 2022:
Arizona: $125 million
Arizona State: $124 million
Cal: $115 million
CU: $95 million
Oregon: $141 million
OSU: $88 million
Stanford: not listed
UCLA: $131 million
USC: not listed
Utah: $112 million
UW: $149 million
WSU: $84 million
Mountain West Teams?
Boise State: $50 million
Fresno State: $47 million
Colorado State: $61 million
SDSU: $67 million
San Jose State: $39 million
Air Force: not listed
Hawaii: $48 million
UNLV: $63 million
Nevada: $45 million
New Mexico: $45 million
Wyoming: $47 million
Utah State: $43 million
So, even if WSU takes a $25 million per year hit on the media side, we would still be at the upper end of conference in terms of funding. Right now, Colorado and OSU are the only two that aren't spending $30 million per year more than WSU in the Pac-12. It's up to Coug fans to decide if we want to be competitive if we end up moving.
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Of course it would be downsized.
While they're not P5 contracts, $1.5 - $2M to coach football isn't a bad gig at all. Just gonna have to include hefty buy outs to help insulate us from poaching.
1. UNLV, Marcus Arroyo was fired last year. New coach Barry Odom will make $1.75 million
You may well be right, but that’s a real shame if that’s the way it plays out.
No. My last GF just turned 69. And she was the best I ever had. So there.
It’s doable but I would like to have the MWC commish take over and get rid of the one we have.
If you, or anyone else here, had to guess whether WSU would "double down" to "dominate" in the MWC or ... uh, not, especially with all the other fiscal adjustments required ... what would you guess? Think they're going to pay Jake Dickert almost $3m for any period of time? Suddenly start funding a private jet when they lost the Pac-12 $? How about the impact on donations and attendance? Yes, like the other hundred times I've seen calls go out to fans to donate to support WSU at a critical time, sure, in concept that might happen, but let's get real. It's not happening.
