New Visitor. Brooklyn Connection
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I think that when the player officially visits WSU, that that and how the player will probably like the coaches, campus, players, and that players are getting pro looks, and that Smith is such a awesome recruiter, beating out blue bloods for recruits, etc, that there will probably be about a 39% to 43% chance that WSU, Smith would get this player.
Would not surprise me in the least, as almost beginning to expect these kind of things to happen.
If WSU, Smith does, get this player, thats where Gueye's scholly will probably go.
Smith originally said that was going to hold onto the scholly until after the Draft, to give Gueye a chance to change his mind last second.
But this player is so good, that I think Smith isn't going to wait until after the draft, and would use it now to get this player.
If WSU/Smith did get this player, combined with getting Yesufu, NJIE, Watts, Jones, Chinyelu, This would probably be one of the best, if not the best recruiting class in WSU history.
And what a loaded Frontcourt it would be.
Jones, Jaki, Chinyelu, Spencer, Cluff, Wells(6-7 Hybrid)
Spencer looks like a 6-8 HYBRID MALIK SEALY, Sean Elliot type HYBRID that can play the 3,4 spots, looks like has extreme NBA athleticism, can jump out of gym, etc.
Looks like would be a awesome, huge get.
Hope WSU/Smith gets him.
Decent chance.
But if not oh well, whether it's this player, or some other player, WSU, Smith will probably get some good player for the Frontcourt, 3,4 spots.
That said, hope WSU, Smith gets this player.
Hope the player enjoys his official visit to WSU.
Seems like there would be players available in the portal that could contribute right away. Imo this guy doesn’t fit the bill as an impact player in the near future and with how players move around these days you have to wonder if he sticks around long enough for WSU to get anything out of him. Doesn’t really seem to fit our present needs other than you can always use shooters.
The Frontcourt is semi stacked and Semi Set with Jaki, Jones, Chinyelu, Cluff, Wells, etc.
And the Guards are set with Yesufu, Wells, Watts, Powell, Jabe, Kymany, Darling
And the 3 spot has Wells, Kymany, Jaki.
But the Problem is that Jaki is needed at the 4 spot, not the 3 spot, unless Chinyelu or Cluff, or both are ready to go from the start, freeing up Jaki for the 3 spot, if Wells, Kymany are not 3's or good enough 3 spotters.
Spencer is a PROTO HYBRID 6-8, Malik Sealy, Sean Elliot types of Hybrid 3 spotters that can play the 3,4,2 spots.
He is as a FOUR STAR, one of the TOP, BEST HS RECRUITS IN THE COUNTRY, AND ONE OF THE BEST EVER WSU RECRUITS RANKINGS WISE.
As such there is a reasonable, ok chance, that he will get a semi lots of minutes, impactful, contributing player, off the bench, or co situational semi starter.
And if that happens, he would be near perfect to play at the 3,4 spots, and would give WSU much needed DEPTH, and would be VALUABLE INSURANCE in case of injuries.
If he was strictly a 4,5, or strictly a 2,SG, he wouldn't fit in, but since there are only 2,3,4 at the 3 Spot, he does fit in as a HYBRID.
And if he is not ready to go, the team is probably set enough that be ok without him playing much.
And that and how WSU has got a epically good recruiting class full of transfers that fill holes, etc, then Spencer would still be good for the future seasons.
So Spencer is a good fit for WSU. You do NOT Know more then ALL the coaches, players, Kyle Smith, 247, ESPN, Rivals, Verbal Commits, etc, that have Spencer as one of the best players in the nation.
If you can get a player of Spencers Caliber, Ranking, etc, you get him.
It's kind of like the NFL draft, where a team gets a player, because they are so good, so high ranked that you take that player, even if it doesn't meet your needs.
And Spencer does fit WSU, Meet WSU needs.
Can you imagine how bad Smith would look if it came out were he to say No to this HIGH RANKED of a recruit, and then if Spencer went to the NBA as a Junior.
Smith would almost have to take Spencer if he can, and if he were to not take Spencer, should that opportunity presents itself, HE BETTER DAMN BE RIGHT IN HIS EVALUATION, AND THERE HAD BETTER BE A GOOD DAMN REASON, ETC, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY, AND HIM ON THE HOT SEAT, ESPECIALLY IF WSU WERE TO STRUGGLE.
But all this might be moot.
The question is not whether he would be a good fit for WSU, as he would be.
The question is whether WSU would be a good fit for him or not.
And it might not be a good fit for him. And he might go elsewhere.
I'm quite semi surprised, semi shocked that he visited, considering WSU, and would be semi surprised, semi shocked, if he committed to, signed with WSU.
But then again, maybe I shouldn't be, because of how great a recruiter Smith is.
And if he transfers, leaves WSU, then Smith will replace him, and WSU will be ok.
But if he stays, does not transfer, then he will probably be what gets WSU over the hump.
WSU has to take chances and try to get players of this Caliber.
Does anybody know anything on, about how after Spencers visit that happened, did WSU make Spencer's Top List, and if Spencer is seriously considering WSU.
Seton Hall, is again competing with WSU for Spencer. If WSU beats out Seton Hall for Spencer, that would be the 3rd player in a row this recruiting cycle that WSU has, would have beat out Seton Hall for. It's almost like Smith, WSU almost owns Seton Hall, recruiting wise, lately. Seton Hall, and their fans are probably getting tired of WSU beating them out.
The other players that WSU, Smith beat out Seton Hall for are: Watts, and either Yesufu, or NJIE
He is not a very highly rated recruit. I see the article says 4 star but he is solidly in the middle of the 3 stars on all the recruiting sites. Not real heavily recruited, his best Offer is Syracuse and it probably has contingencies. Looking at his highlights he seems to be a step slow and of average athleticism.
The article “says one of the top recruits available “ at this point in the process 90% of all recruits are signed. He is ranked right about 200th over all, not exactly one of our top recruits ever.
The article “says one of the top recruits available “ at this point in the process 90% of all recruits are signed. He is ranked right about 200th over all, not exactly one of our top recruits ever.
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I watched a lot of his videos of his play.
He has quick defensive lateral quickness, to even guard fast, explosive PG's, SG's on the perimeter.
This shows that he does have the quickness, speed, ability to drive, get to the basket, it's just that because he voluntarily doesn't do that, that much, that he is, has a semi somewhat semi slower first step on driving, and because of that semi easier to guard on the perimeter.
But despite that, there were a very limited number of times where he beat a quick, speedy, athletic defender off the dribble, and blew by the defender, got to the backet.
I suspect the issues are like I said not using his ability to drive enough in order to develop that first step speed. First step speed is a muscle trigger, and you have to work on that to be able to have fast feet.
The next problem is that since he might have later bloomed into his height, he might have semi clumsy feet. Again it will just take practice, work, growth, development, etc, to get better at having a faster first step.
The other problem he probably had was at the AAU level, he was probably encouraged to Jack 3's, outside shots nonstop, in order to get playing time, instead of working on his driving, creating his own shot game.
He does have incredibly awesome lateral quickness, speed, first steps, etc, in guarding the perimeter, best guards at the EYBL in Brooklyn, that has some of the best competition in the nation, and he did blow by a couple, few, some good defenders en route to basket.
All that tells me that he can drive, create own shot, if he asserts himself, and actually does it, practices, works in it, etc, instead of jacking up 3's nonstop as a AWESOME Shooter.
His driving, creating his own shot game, has probably been SERIOUSLY NEGLECTED.
He also looks LEAN, ATHLETIC, GOOD MUSCLE DEFINTION, FAST, PASSES THE EYEBALL test.
I think that if he will assert himself, practice, work at it, etc, that he will develop into being able to create his own shot. He has the ability, or potential, he just doesn't assert himself and do it.
Also Seton Hall and Syracuse are semi big time offers, and the article says he is a 4 star, and 3 stars are not ranked higher then 4 stars, so since there was a 3 star in the top 100 to 150 list, then a 4 star is ahead of a 3 star, and should be on the top 100 to 150 list ahead of that 3 star.
Also even if he is ranked Top 200, that's still pretty good.
At worst Spencer would be a awesome shooter that provides more DEPTH at the 3,4 spots, and that has the potential to might probably develop into more in later, future years, if he stays long enough at WSU, to where WSU gets at least 1 semi solid semi impactful, semi contributing year from him, that helps WSU maybe get over the hump.
At best, he is, would get a semi lot of minutes from off the bench, be a semi situational, semi co semi starter, a couple times, etc.
In any case, he has great potential, upside, is a Good HYBRID, and is a good enough HS recruit to Spend the last, Gueye's Scholly on, as WSU has enough transfers, and semi needs 1,2, 3 good enough HS recruits.
Also if WSU gets this kid, since WSU also got Bamba from the NY, Brooklyn area, like this kid, that might develop a good recruiting Brooklyn Pipeline into WSU, where Brooklyn is famous for all of its extremely good players.
Also I guess I misunderstood the article. I thought the article said, was saying the kid was one of the top players, made the top 50 to top 100 to top 150 list, etc.
In any case the kid is still a HUGE GET for WSU, Smith.
Spencer Mahoney scouting report
What could be the penultimate grab for the upcoming season.
www.cougcenter.com
Sounds a tad slow and not especially athletic but his size and shooting certainly can be put to use, if not much this year then down the road.
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