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Offensive Line and Notes for 8/13

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Thank you Greg Woods.

WSU’s offensive line shows flashes of potential on otherwise up-and-down day​

Greg Woods Aug. 13, 2024 at 7:07 pm
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The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — There’s lots to like about this Washington State offensive line, position coach Jared Kaster will tell you, but the group’s depth and versatility stands out most in his mind.

For example: Redshirt junior Christian Hilborn is at his best at left guard, but because of injuries, he’s been taking a majority of his reps at right tackle. Right guard Brock Dieu has rotated on occasion to center. And now that Rod Tialavea is back healthy, he’s stepped back into his role at left guard.

WSU is trying to tread water until veteran right tackle Fa’alili Fa’amoe, out since the beginning of the calendar year with a knee injury, can return. That won’t come until WSU visits rival Washington for a nonconference clash in Seattle — at the earliest — so in the meantime, Kaster is finding out who he can trust at different spots.

“I think it shows that you know what you’ve done in recruiting, what you’ve done to build an O-line room, is starting to kind of show a little bit,” said Kaster, who coached last year at Austin Peay. “Having the depth, you’ve got guys, and if they don’t get it done, you’ve got guys behind yourself that have grown in the program, that have grown in the weight room. You’ve got guys that played a lot of football.”

The Cougs’ offensive line produced several promising moments in Tuesday’s practice, the team’s 11th of fall camp. On one sequence at the goal line, the front five generated a push to free up running back Djouvensky Schlenbaker for a short touchdown, and on another, they did the same for true freshman running back Wayshawn Parker.

Just two moments from one fall camp practice, sure, but remember, last season WSU finished second-to-last in the Pac-12 (and No. 111 of 133 FBS teams nationally) in red-zone scoring, cashing in on 76% of its opportunities. The Cougs registered a touchdown on just 64% of those chances, a field goal on the other 12%. It’s been enough of an issue for head coach Jake Dickert to harp on it several times during fall camp, and coaches made it a focus Tuesday.

But for a few of those encouraging plays, Washington State’s offense also slogged through a few troubling ones, too. In a red-zone situation over at Gesa Field, where the team moved midway through the practice, Parker was stacked up on back-to-back plays. On third down, quarterback John Mateer misfired on a rollout pass, and on fourth down, WSU edge rusher Syrus Webster batted down Mateer’s pass, generating a turnover on downs.

On the quarterback front, Mateer and Bryant transfer Zevi Eckhaus had mixed success Tuesday. Mateer did miss that goal-line throw, but he also unleashed a beauty of a throw in a routes-on-air drill. He snapped the ball, let freshman receiver Chris Barnes build speed on a go route and unfurled a deep ball, some 40 yards downfield, a dime that Barnes snagged over nickelback Kapena Gushiken.

In another team period Tuesday, Mateer threw another gem, a downfield bomb that hit senior wideout Kyle Williams in stride. Williams has recorded a relatively quiet fall camp, making big catches when he’s needed to, but his role as the No. 1 receiver is all but set in stone. A 12-game starter last season, Williams hasn’t needed to turn heads the way some of his younger teammates have.

Mateer’s competition for the starting quarterback role, Eckhaus, also saw a mixed bag on Tuesday. He strung together a few incompletions, including the type of deep ball that has often eluded him during fall camp, but he also made one of his best throws of camp: A deep touchdown pass to Barnes, who caught it over the shoulder in stride.

Notes​

  • Cornerback Jamorri Colson, in line for a starting role this season, missed practice for undisclosed reasons. He was present, but he didn’t suit up.
  • Punter Nick Haberer also missed practice, his second straight. He missed Monday with back soreness, Dickert said.
  • Also not suiting up for Tuesday’s practice was defensive lineman Ansel Din-Mbuh, who missed for undisclosed reasons.
  • WSU’s next two practices will be later in the day — 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, 4:30 p.m. on Thursday. Fall camp concludes with the team’s second and final scrimmage, which is open to the public, at 6:45 p.m. Saturday.
Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
 
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Thank you Greg Woods.

WSU’s offensive line shows flashes of potential on otherwise up-and-down day​

Greg Woods Aug. 13, 2024 at 7:07 pm
By
The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — There’s lots to like about this Washington State offensive line, position coach Jared Kaster will tell you, but the group’s depth and versatility stands out most in his mind.

For example: Redshirt junior Christian Hilborn is at his best at left guard, but because of injuries, he’s been taking a majority of his reps at right tackle. Right guard Brock Dieu has rotated on occasion to center. And now that Rod Tialavea is back healthy, he’s stepped back into his role at left guard.

WSU is trying to tread water until veteran right tackle Fa’alili Fa’amoe, out since the beginning of the calendar year with a knee injury, can return. That won’t come until WSU visits rival Washington for a nonconference clash in Seattle — at the earliest — so in the meantime, Kaster is finding out who he can trust at different spots.

“I think it shows that you know what you’ve done in recruiting, what you’ve done to build an O-line room, is starting to kind of show a little bit,” said Kaster, who coached last year at Austin Peay. “Having the depth, you’ve got guys, and if they don’t get it done, you’ve got guys behind yourself that have grown in the program, that have grown in the weight room. You’ve got guys that played a lot of football.”

The Cougs’ offensive line produced several promising moments in Tuesday’s practice, the team’s 11th of fall camp. On one sequence at the goal line, the front five generated a push to free up running back Djouvensky Schlenbaker for a short touchdown, and on another, they did the same for true freshman running back Wayshawn Parker.

Just two moments from one fall camp practice, sure, but remember, last season WSU finished second-to-last in the Pac-12 (and No. 111 of 133 FBS teams nationally) in red-zone scoring, cashing in on 76% of its opportunities. The Cougs registered a touchdown on just 64% of those chances, a field goal on the other 12%. It’s been enough of an issue for head coach Jake Dickert to harp on it several times during fall camp, and coaches made it a focus Tuesday.

But for a few of those encouraging plays, Washington State’s offense also slogged through a few troubling ones, too. In a red-zone situation over at Gesa Field, where the team moved midway through the practice, Parker was stacked up on back-to-back plays. On third down, quarterback John Mateer misfired on a rollout pass, and on fourth down, WSU edge rusher Syrus Webster batted down Mateer’s pass, generating a turnover on downs.

On the quarterback front, Mateer and Bryant transfer Zevi Eckhaus had mixed success Tuesday. Mateer did miss that goal-line throw, but he also unleashed a beauty of a throw in a routes-on-air drill. He snapped the ball, let freshman receiver Chris Barnes build speed on a go route and unfurled a deep ball, some 40 yards downfield, a dime that Barnes snagged over nickelback Kapena Gushiken.

In another team period Tuesday, Mateer threw another gem, a downfield bomb that hit senior wideout Kyle Williams in stride. Williams has recorded a relatively quiet fall camp, making big catches when he’s needed to, but his role as the No. 1 receiver is all but set in stone. A 12-game starter last season, Williams hasn’t needed to turn heads the way some of his younger teammates have.

Mateer’s competition for the starting quarterback role, Eckhaus, also saw a mixed bag on Tuesday. He strung together a few incompletions, including the type of deep ball that has often eluded him during fall camp, but he also made one of his best throws of camp: A deep touchdown pass to Barnes, who caught it over the shoulder in stride.

Notes​

  • Cornerback Jamorri Colson, in line for a starting role this season, missed practice for undisclosed reasons. He was present, but he didn’t suit up.
  • Punter Nick Haberer also missed practice, his second straight. He missed Monday with back soreness, Dickert said.
  • Also not suiting up for Tuesday’s practice was defensive lineman Ansel Din-Mbuh, who missed for undisclosed reasons.
  • WSU’s next two practices will be later in the day — 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, 4:30 p.m. on Thursday. Fall camp concludes with the team’s second and final scrimmage, which is open to the public, at 6:45 p.m. Saturday.
Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
Maybe I’m just jaded based on the general direction and performance of our OL over the last 5 years, but what I read is that we can only occasionally open running lanes, and only for short runs. Nobody has a position locked down, so everyone’s moving around to find something they’re good at. And the best one: there’s not enough separation between players to make clear who’s first team or second team, so it looks like we have depth…except that really we have nothing.
 
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The best thing that has happened for Dickfore is the drastic lowering of talent on their schedule. He does not have a veteran team of returning starters coming back. He does not have half a dozen kids he can point at and say they’ll be in NFL camps. If he were staring down a BCS league schedule this could be a rough year. The absolute last thing he needed was a beat up OL. They already were weak last year. Now kids are missing reps because of injury and the backups are as good as the starters. Time to show how well you are developing kids.

Also, if you have 2 qbs…. you have 0 qbs. So make a decision and get on with it.
 
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The best thing that has happened for Dickfore is the drastic lowering of talent on their schedule. He does not have a veteran team of returning starters coming back. He does not have half a dozen kids he can point at and say they’ll be in NFL camps. If he were staring down a BCS league schedule this could be a rough year. The absolute last thing he needed was a beat up OL. They already were weak last year. Now kids are missing reps because of injury and the backups are as good as the starters. Time to show how well you are developing kids.

Also, if you have 2 qbs…. you have 0 qbs. So make a decision and get on with it.
has this ever been the case at WSU?

Ever? or Never?
 
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The best thing that has happened for Dickfore is the drastic lowering of talent on their schedule. He does not have a veteran team of returning starters coming back. He does not have half a dozen kids he can point at and say they’ll be in NFL camps. If he were staring down a BCS league schedule this could be a rough year. The absolute last thing he needed was a beat up OL. They already were weak last year. Now kids are missing reps because of injury and the backups are as good as the starters. Time to show how well you are developing kids.

Also, if you have 2 qbs…. you have 0 qbs. So make a decision and get on with it.

WSU's entire secondary is good enough to end up in, go to NFL camps, by end of this or next season. Not saying that they are guaranteed NFL players, as they are not. But they are borderline, in BETWEEN great college players and NFL players. And they are good enough to do well against UW, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Texas Tech, P4 type level teams. The only problem with the secondary, is that this will be their first season starting together as a unit, and don't have a lot of previous experience, so they do have a learning curve, and will make mistakes, but despite that, they have a LOT of TALENT. And against the MWC they will, should DOMINATE most to almost all of the MWC.

So your both partially right and partially wrong.
 
The best thing that has happened for Dickfore is the drastic lowering of talent on their schedule. He does not have a veteran team of returning starters coming back. He does not have half a dozen kids he can point at and say they’ll be in NFL camps. If he were staring down a BCS league schedule this could be a rough year. The absolute last thing he needed was a beat up OL. They already were weak last year. Now kids are missing reps because of injury and the backups are as good as the starters. Time to show how well you are developing kids.

Also, if you have 2 qbs…. you have 0 qbs. So make a decision and get on with it.

He is doing that. The QB battle has been extremely close, and only recently has Mateer started working out the kinks against WSU's AWESOME secondary, and started to do semi consistently well, good enough, semi AWESOME at times, and started to separate, pull away, ahead of Zevi.

Dickert set a hard deadline for this weekend and will name a starting QB(Which will probably be Mateer), this weekend, then Monday the Mainstream Sports Media will re announce Dickert announcing, naming starting QB by, on this weekend.

Also it's obvious that Dickert, Arbuckle has made Mateer the unofficial favorite to be the starter, etc, in that Mateer is now getting the majority of the reps, snaps, work with the defensive 1's, and is doing better, the best so far over Zevi.
 
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