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Yeah, it's getting hard to be a faithful fan with the revolving door of men's bball and football players. I think that's why I suddenly found an interest in the Women's B-Ball team. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that women's bball will eventually follow the same path.
It’s more likely the players stay and the coach leaves there.
Probably not until CLW leaves but then wouldn’t be surprised at all
I'm following my plan from last year. I can't help but track things, but until June it's a moving target. Can't take too much away until things start to close down.
Just because he has entered, declared for draft, does not mean that he can't or won't withdraw from draft.
I think there is about a 49% chance that he will, would withdraw from the draft.
He is CURRENTLY projected to go, be drafted #50 which is in the last half of the 2nd round of draft.
When your in the last half of draft projection wise, it CAN be easy to SLIP, FALL, DROP so far as to not be drafted.
Lottery Picks have slipped to 2nd Round, and 2nd rounders have slipped to going undrafted.
Furthermore it's about 50/50 on whether his 2nd round pick will, would be guaranteed contract, and guaranteed money.
Furthermore, despite the NBA drafting him 2nd round based on his Potential, he is NOT ready YET.
Also there is about at least about a 37% to 50% to 63% chance that he would go 13,14,15 pick of first round of draft at end of next season IF he stays, and he certainly would probably go last pick of first round at worst if he returns.
That's worth some big time guaranteed money.
Still with all that, it's a temptation to take the very lesser money of a #50 pick in the 2nd round, so that's why it's about 50/50 on whether he withdraws from the draft or not.
Another factor is that if he returns, he might be responsible for and part of a extremely special season. Especially considering the bad end to last season.
Also entering the draft is also to get evaluated by the NBA and be told by the NBA what you need to work on, etc.
The NBA will, would tell him if they think he might go lottery next season, and what he would have to work on, do to do that.
Also Jackson, Bamba leaving might cause him to think that if he returns, he WILL be THE MAN, and that that would help him to get drafted higher.
If Abogidi is good enough to play in the NBA's G League, so is Gueye. He'll be on a G-League team at worst unless he actually wants to play in Europe. His tweet indicates the NBA is his goal and the G-League is the best route assuming he doesn't make a roster. I think he'll be a 2nd round draft pick, but we'll see.
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Gueye is definitely guaranteed good enough, a LOCK to be a G League Starter, IF he doesn't make a Roster, after being drafted 2nd round, or IF he is undrafted, or IF the NBA team that would draft him in 2nd round decides that he needs to be optioned down to the NBA minor league G League team for assignment to get him ready for NBA play down the road, or IF Gueye does Not withdraw from draft, return to WSU.
The OFFICIAL Media, NBA EXPERTS, etc, have Gueye currently projected in MOCK DRAFTS going #50 in the 2nd round of the draft with about a 50/50 chance his #50 pick of 2nd round contract would be guaranteed.
There is about a 49% chance that Gueye will, would withdraw from draft, return to WSU, for the reasons I outlined in my comment above.
Altho Gueye is Not Ready Yet for the NBA, Loyal seems to not get, understand the NBA drafts players, an or have players make G League rosters all the time, that are Not Ready Yet.
Loyal doesn't get that the NBA is becoming more and more like Major League Baseball, with a FARM system.
Gueye is not projected in the first or second round in any of the major mock draft boards I’m seeing. Most times if a player isn’t gone before their JR year it hurts not helps their draft prospects. Looking at the last four years of drafts plus this years projected draft picks JRs and SRs are usually after thoughts. I think Gueye might be the exception because he has played the game for only a few years.
Personally imo Gueye is not an NBA player but I’ve been wrong plenty of times on both sides of that argument about certain players.
Also another injury cut Efe’s season short but he wasn’t playing or producing much before that. He started out pretty strong but once the NBA rosters stabilized and the fringe players moved to the G-league he was much less effective.
Personally imo Gueye is not an NBA player but I’ve been wrong plenty of times on both sides of that argument about certain players.
Also another injury cut Efe’s season short but he wasn’t playing or producing much before that. He started out pretty strong but once the NBA rosters stabilized and the fringe players moved to the G-league he was much less effective.
Craig Ehlo or someone else similarly credible either during the last radio broadcast, or some other place, etc, I heard, or I'm pretty sure I heard that Gueye is projected to go about #50 in 2nd Round.
Maybe the sources your seeing are not projecting 2nd round, there are more sources then the ones you see.
Also I have seen, read articles by at least semi credible sources, kind of like a Canzano, Wilner, etc, except it wasn't them, where the article speculated whether Gueye would stay in draft, or return to WSU, and that article stated as a supposed fact, that Gueye is, was currently projected as about a #50 pick in 2nd round draft pick, if Gueye stays in draft.
Now maybe you only stick to ESPN, etc. ESPN has not projected Gueye as about #50.
There is more then ESPN, etc.
Whether Gueye goes as high as #50, Most sources I have seen are saying Gueye goes last pick of 2nd round at worst, or G League at worst.
But for every source that projects Gueye higher, there is a ESPN that says he goes lower or undrafted, etc.
I think it's likely that somebody will spend a 2nd round FLIER pick on Gueye at worst.
But your sources are a good example of why Gueye is not ready yet, and why he probably needs to withdraw from draft, and return to WSU.
But despite that, I think there is only about, around a 49% chance at best that Gueye would withdraw from draft, and return to WSU.
Also Gueye's 14 ppg, about 10 rebounds per game, and leading the Pac 12 in DOUBLE DOUBLES, etc, is WAY THE HELL BETTER then Efe's 7 ppg, and 6 rebounds per game that made the NBA G League,
Actually ESPN has Gueye as the 49th best prospect in the draft, which I would assume puts him in the 2nd round. I found one other site that put him in the 2nd round. Of the six or seven others I looked at he was not listed. Of course any yahoo can start a mock draft website it doesn’t mean there is any accuracy or expertise involved. Nobody thought CJ would be drafted.
Gueye is a much more viable NBA player than Efe in my book but i think both are really long shots to spend much time in the league. If Gueye can get drafted I think he’ll get his shot but I doubt Efe ever does.
Gueye is a much more viable NBA player than Efe in my book but i think both are really long shots to spend much time in the league. If Gueye can get drafted I think he’ll get his shot but I doubt Efe ever does.
I saw Pascale Siakam when he was at New Mexico State. Couldn’t have picked him out as a potential NBA star if you’d had a Delorean to the future.
Gueye strikes me as similar. Thin, athletic, hasn’t played much. But given time, high ceiling.
Gueye strikes me as similar. Thin, athletic, hasn’t played much. But given time, high ceiling.
He might just develop better. Once you go pro 100% of your time is spent on the game, plus best coaching out there. Some guys do and some don't develop. I thought klay was good but he got 1000x better with nba coaching. Maybe gueye would've been better off staying in college Maybe not, maybe it would make no difference. Only time will tell.
Tangent on a bball thread. Same with the NFL Lots of drafting on potential. Everything about Josh Allen's college career and rookie year told you he wasn't that good. Now he's mvp candidate year in and out. Lots of successful college qbs suck. Just Lots of variables.
Tangent on a bball thread. Same with the NFL Lots of drafting on potential. Everything about Josh Allen's college career and rookie year told you he wasn't that good. Now he's mvp candidate year in and out. Lots of successful college qbs suck. Just Lots of variables.
It's a risk, but it's also about the contract. Not just the size but also the length and guarantee between undrafted, 2nd round, and 1st round. If he is seen as a 2nd rounder period, then go. If it's possible showing he can consistently hit the 3 could turn him into a 1st rounder? Could be worth staying. There are risks either way.
Maybe, but not but seems to me she will stick around. She's already been part of a fired staff from a P5 job before, she might know how good she has it here.
I wish Kamie was 40, but at I believe 59 I wonder if she's thinking of another job at this point? Doesn't mean an offer doesn't get her thinking but does her philosophy of IQ, work-ethic, toughness, etc. fit at a more "prestigious" program?
She was at K-State as an assistant for 17 years. Doesn't mean she sticks, but jumping around hasn't exactly fit her history. As long as she feels she can compete here, I think she stays put. Of course, CL-W running out of eligibility could be the thing. IMO, overall recruiting has improved each year. Would like to see another "game changer" type talent to come in though.
