Oregon takes Adams
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This type of thing just makes me like CF less and less.
I eventually quit watching all Pro sports because of the MONEY & Non-stop EGO's.
He may very well not even start at Oregon.....
The whole thing is a bummer... plus my advanced degree is from EWU.
I eventually quit watching all Pro sports because of the MONEY & Non-stop EGO's.
He may very well not even start at Oregon.....
The whole thing is a bummer... plus my advanced degree is from EWU.
Meh. The guys who are attracting the money should have at least a few of the privileges of the guys who are making the money.
Indentured servitude is so 18th-century.
Indentured servitude is so 18th-century.
What I found interesting is I this, there are 2 guys that I have worked with over the years that went to Eastern, when I asked them about he possibility of Adams going to Oregon, they thought it was great. "it's great exposure for Eastern"
I guess if you go to and FCS school and one of the top 10 teams in the country wants your guy it might make sense. If the WSU starting QB left his 5th year to go to another school, I don't think I'd be excited about the exposure.
I guess if you go to and FCS school and one of the top 10 teams in the country wants your guy it might make sense. If the WSU starting QB left his 5th year to go to another school, I don't think I'd be excited about the exposure.
Doesn't say a whole lot about the faith the coaching staff has in last year's backup to Mariota. For Duck fans' sake, it was truly lucky that Marcus stayed healthy all year. If Adams doesn't work out and they need to go to Lockie, I wonder what his confidence level is going to be like? Wouldn't surprise me to see Lockie be a transfer candidate ala Bryan Bennett.
Glad Cougar
Glad Cougar
Oregon opens the season against EWU this year.
I guess we'll know what EWU thinks about the situation as the game unfolds.
Maybe Adams will play; maybe he won't. If he doesn't, he'll know that the Ducks jobbed him. If he plays, he may have a few bruises after the game.
Real life is often more interesting than fiction.
I guess we'll know what EWU thinks about the situation as the game unfolds.
Maybe Adams will play; maybe he won't. If he doesn't, he'll know that the Ducks jobbed him. If he plays, he may have a few bruises after the game.
Real life is often more interesting than fiction.
I admit this is far fetched, but what if Oregon really likes its returning QBs and is taking Adams simply to hurt its opponent in the season opener? Imagine if Adams stayed with EWU and then beat the Ducks. Helfrich isn't going to let that happen.
Other than Jeff Lockie, a 3-star signee from the 2012 class, they have 4-star Morgan Mahalak, a 6-3, 190-pounder from the 2014 class, and 6-0, 191-pound Georgia Tech transfer Ty Griffin, who was a redshirt freshman last season.
Jake Rodriques, 6-3, 210, Rocklin, Ca., was a 4-star QB with Lockie in the 2012 class but is no longer on the roster. Also no longer listed is 2013 signee Damion Hobbs, a 3-star from Cedar Hill, Texas.
They signed 4-star Travis Waller of Servite, Ca., last week. With Adams Jr., the Ducks will have five QBs on the roster this fall.
obviously they have talent, but they wqnt to remain at the pinnacle at all times, lockie isn't going to keep them there and the others have no experience. in short, they are looking to get a mercenary
I had to laugh
.a Duck alum that I know suggested to me that EWU should be flattered to have their QB stolen in order to help the Ducks.
"Delusional" only begins to cover it .
"Delusional" only begins to cover it .
that is an attitude I sense from many duck fans i know, the rest of the conference should just accept that they are supreme and be happy for them
That's rich.
I tend to think of the Ducks as an embarrassment to the conference at this point. If it wasn't the case last year, it is this year. How many title games can you blow before you're just a liability? And if you're just going to embarrass the conference on the big stage, do us all a favor and throw a game so a team with a real shot can do it. As down as Stanford was this year, part of me thinks they or Utah would have been a better matchup for Ohio State. Not that those two teams earned the berth, but it's frustrating that Oregon can't take the heat but wants to be in the kitchen.
I've said it before... it's not like they can't change it. They are at the point now where they can ditch the gimmick and build Alabama West. Until they do, expect a lot of Icarus-like seasons where they fly high all season and then lose a stinker to Arizona or Utah before finally getting swatted in the big game.
I guess I don't see any fault here on either party. For Adams, it's an earned perk. Because he graduated from Eastern, he gets the opportunity to play an extra year for a top-5 powerhouse; potentially vaulting him into a high round pick. If this becomes a trend, it would be one of the few good trends about transferring. AFTER someone earns their degree, they can transfer.
For Oregon, they get a kid who can help them immediately. This seems to fall under the all is fair category.
For the funny category, Adams might get to beat Oregon State again while playing for another NW school. He'll also get revenge on UW, who he tore up last season.
For Oregon, they get a kid who can help them immediately. This seems to fall under the all is fair category.
For the funny category, Adams might get to beat Oregon State again while playing for another NW school. He'll also get revenge on UW, who he tore up last season.
I'm trying to dissect this issue and find out the downside regarding this new "flow" for potential recruits and schools. Seems like the schools only risk is if the player doesn't finish their degree, in this case at EWU. So potential of not filling a years 25 allotment. Everything else is upside, it seems to me.
For the player, what's the downside? Regardless of ANY outcome I can think of, is there a real downside? Even if they never see the field, they get to work on their masters (FOR FREE), they get to be in a program they didn't have access to a year ago and they have an opportunity they didn't have before. Worst case, they get a free year of Masters Degree education while being a part (albeit smaller than they probably want) of a larger program.
The only thing I can think of is, this does complicate the whole recruiting process, some more. Requires the schools to spend more time staring at video but really what else is there? I'm sure I'm missing something.
I think this is another tool for WSU to utilize! JUCO part deaux.
For the player, what's the downside? Regardless of ANY outcome I can think of, is there a real downside? Even if they never see the field, they get to work on their masters (FOR FREE), they get to be in a program they didn't have access to a year ago and they have an opportunity they didn't have before. Worst case, they get a free year of Masters Degree education while being a part (albeit smaller than they probably want) of a larger program.
The only thing I can think of is, this does complicate the whole recruiting process, some more. Requires the schools to spend more time staring at video but really what else is there? I'm sure I'm missing something.
I think this is another tool for WSU to utilize! JUCO part deaux.
The player faces some risk, especially with less scholarships (63?) at the FCS level. If Eastern fills his spot and he doesn't graduate, he could be looking at being a walk-on or out of football. It's likely that EWU would figure something out to hang on to him or someone else with a scholarship would pick him up, but you get the idea.
NM. Would help to if I learned to read for comprehension.
This post was edited on 2/10 2:13 PM by Coug95man2
This post was edited on 2/10 2:13 PM by Coug95man2
What happens if...
Vernon doesn't do very well at Oregon?
If that were to happen, he would have shot himself in the foot from an NFL draft standpoint...
Vernon doesn't do very well at Oregon?
If that were to happen, he would have shot himself in the foot from an NFL draft standpoint...
Re: What happens if...
He may see this as his only legitimate shot at getting into the NFL. Another good year at EWU and he's still an undersized QB with most of his experience with and against the lower tier of football talent. Success at Oregon would dispel some of the question marks in scouts minds, and offer a better likelihood of a decent draft pick. There's no guarantee of success or even a starting role (particularly since he won't have spring ball to get familiar with the Oregon offense) so he's taking a pretty good risk with his final year of college ball. Had to be a tough call on his part to leave his current team and coaches. It's hard not to admire the kid for taking that gamble to chase a bigger goal.
He may see this as his only legitimate shot at getting into the NFL. Another good year at EWU and he's still an undersized QB with most of his experience with and against the lower tier of football talent. Success at Oregon would dispel some of the question marks in scouts minds, and offer a better likelihood of a decent draft pick. There's no guarantee of success or even a starting role (particularly since he won't have spring ball to get familiar with the Oregon offense) so he's taking a pretty good risk with his final year of college ball. Had to be a tough call on his part to leave his current team and coaches. It's hard not to admire the kid for taking that gamble to chase a bigger goal.
Re: What happens if...
There is a lot of risk here for Adams. Just look at the Cougars own roster for an example of a player that made a move for more exposure/better coaching, etc. Luke Falk moved to California to play at a powerhouse high school. He had a hard time picking up the offense quickly and was replaced as the starter in the second game of the season. He ended up being lost in the shuffle during his senior season and walked on at WSU.
The QB's on the current roster will have an advantage in that they will know the offense. There are very few Russell Wilson's who can pick up an offense quickly. Adams could very well lose out on the starting job or struggle mightily, which could also hurt his NFL stock.
If you are good, the NFL will find you. Joe Flacco of the Baltimore Ravens was the 18th pick in the first round in the 2008 draft. He attended Delaware, another FCS school like Eastern.
This post was edited on 2/11 12:34 PM by Coug1990
There is a lot of risk here for Adams. Just look at the Cougars own roster for an example of a player that made a move for more exposure/better coaching, etc. Luke Falk moved to California to play at a powerhouse high school. He had a hard time picking up the offense quickly and was replaced as the starter in the second game of the season. He ended up being lost in the shuffle during his senior season and walked on at WSU.
The QB's on the current roster will have an advantage in that they will know the offense. There are very few Russell Wilson's who can pick up an offense quickly. Adams could very well lose out on the starting job or struggle mightily, which could also hurt his NFL stock.
If you are good, the NFL will find you. Joe Flacco of the Baltimore Ravens was the 18th pick in the first round in the 2008 draft. He attended Delaware, another FCS school like Eastern.
This post was edited on 2/11 12:34 PM by Coug1990
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