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Wisconsin has 10 points - and zero first downs. Mistakes are killing Oregon who have 7 points and 7 first downs
Separately, how much of a difference did it make to have Herbert on that first drive show that he will keep it on designed runs? Keeping Wisconsin honest early.
Imagine having an AR QB who forces defenses to tie up a resource as a spy, leaving an extra receiver open over the middle or down the sideline? Hopefully JDL can be that guy someday.
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Imagine having an AR QB that forced defenses to defend his running ability AND Borgi’s running ability.... That will be the end of rush 3, drop 8. WSU receivers rejoice not being 4 vs 8 every down. Bombs away!!!
It appears that their kicker can't get it in the endzone. He just started off the second half kicking it to the 1/goal line twice!
Obviously the ST coach should be fired on the spot.
One of the Oregon sideline defensive cards is a Dollar Sign. If the shoe fits . . .
I'm not sure. It would've been nice to see a sideline cam view. I think the DB he was clearing out had a good chance (and was trying to come off his man) to cut in front and get his hands on that ball. Could've been why they called it. I don't think they call that if he's way out of the play
Wisconsin went away from running Taylor and it cost them. They should have just kept giving him the ball until Oregon could stop it.
For perspective, how about the fact that:
- Utah got its doors blown off by Oregon
- P12 champ Oregon squeaked by B10 #2 Wisconsin
- Wisconsin got its doors blown off by tOSU
- tOSU lost to Clemson
- I strongly feel Clemson will get its doors blown off by LSU
Turnovers and penalties just killed Wisconsin. To be fair, a couple of those fumbles were due to incredibly good plays/hard hits by the Duck defense. Brady Breeze was the star of the game yet Justin Herbert got MVP. Yeah, he ran for 3 TDs (not much done in the passing game) but Breeze had 11 tackles, forced and recovered a fumble, picked up a fumbled punt and ran for a TD....and generally was all over the place on defense. That offensive PI call late in the game against the Badgers was brutal....can't believe that was called at all, especially at that point in the game. You can probably make that call several times during any game. But I give the Ducks credit for playing well on defense and minimizing their own mistakes...while Wisconsin only has themselves to blame.
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The OPI was a total screwup by Wisconsin. One receiver actually pushed his DB back until he was in position to make a play on a ball thrown to a different receiver. I can’t believe that was the play design. Then the first receiver gave one final shove to breakup that DBs chance to make the play. It’s that final shove that was (I believe legitimately) called. It was either a stupid play design or someone screwed up.
Oregon went in and gambled with a new gameplan and did the unexpected, and it paid off. Credit to them for playing to win.
However, if one of those passes when they should have been running down the clock had fallen incomplete or been picked, theyd be getting roasted, rightfully so, by their fans and the media.
If anything in this world personifies Murphys law it would be college football, so taking those chances at the end if a 1 pt game... Well, lets lets say Crystal-balls are bigger than his brains. Especially with a qb whos been more fizzle than flash.
But again, hats off. It worked this time.
However, if one of those passes when they should have been running down the clock had fallen incomplete or been picked, theyd be getting roasted, rightfully so, by their fans and the media.
If anything in this world personifies Murphys law it would be college football, so taking those chances at the end if a 1 pt game... Well, lets lets say Crystal-balls are bigger than his brains. Especially with a qb whos been more fizzle than flash.
But again, hats off. It worked this time.
Wisconsin clearly had the better team. Ducks were only in it because of turnovers. Taking some gambles on the last offensive series to maintain possession seemed like the right call to me. I think if Wisconsin got the ball back with a minute or so left and no timeouts they would have won on a last second field goal.
Someone screwed up all right. The refs. The contact was initiated by the Duck DB, who grabbed the receiver first. The receiver was trying to break free and did use his hands to push him off, but you could arguably call the Duck DB for holding first. If anything, it should have been a no-call. No guarantee Wisconsin wins the game if the completed pass to the outside receiver was allowed to stand, but one ref decided to not give them the chance. Combined with the missed hands to the face of the Wisconsin QB on his interception, the phantom holding call on the OL after a 17-yard Taylor run (which replay clearly showed the lineman whiffed on his block and didn't even touch the Duck player), and the incredible spot down near the goal line when the Wisconsin running back was brought down at the 1 yard line but the ball spotted at the 2-yard line, costing Wiscy a timeout (why wasn't that spot reviewed like it was a couple of other times during the game?), I would say the Big-12 officiating crew had a Pac-12 like performance. Cougar fans would be big-time bellyaching about the calls if it happened to us. Duck fans, too.
Having rambled on about that, the Badgers shouldn't blame the officials. The 4 turnovers did them in (only 3 TOs if they call the hands to the face penalty on Oregon).
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Tough to say. The Wisc offense was struggling at that point to even move the ball. The forced fumble seemed to push the mo towards Oregon at that point.
Yep, TOs the story of the game.
Unless you count the sh!tty officiating in the most crucial moments of the game. At best that OPI is a no call - just like the one that was called against Arco, even if it WAS OPI it didn't affect the outcome of the play.
Its frustrating because these guys have the ability to huddle up and discuss, yet they hardly do.
This game was a good case study on how time of possession isn't a cause of winning and is simply a measured result at the end of the game.
For those who think Wisconsin was clearly better seem to completely undervalue how they were thoroughly outplayed in most facets besides ball control.
For those who think Wisconsin was clearly better seem to completely undervalue how they were thoroughly outplayed in most facets besides ball control.
Erm, they also killed Oregon. Did you see that UW scored 10 points before they even got a first down? Herbert threw a pick right into the pile after Oregon gave up a kick return. 10 points, 0 first downs.
Well, gosh. UW gets 3 points on 1 turnover by Oregon. Ducks get 21 points off 4 turnovers by Wisconsin. UW has 9 penalties for 79 yard, UO has 2 penalties for 20 yards. I would say that the Badgers were "killed" more so than the Ducks by those two factors.
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I think Oregon had about 220 yds of total offense and maybe 40 yds of return yardage. Wisconsin had about 350 yards of offense plus more than 200 yds of punt and kick returns. I don’t see how the game would have even been close if not for Wisconsin turnovers. A punter dropping the ball and having it returned for a TD is a pretty critical error. So was the fumble with less than 10 minutes left that set up Oregon deep in UW territory. Reminded me a little of the Coug - UCLA game. Inexplicably bad play by both teams with the weaker team somehow pulling out a win.
Oregon was pretty much gifted this win.
2 holding calls in the first half negated long runs by Taylor that would have brought Wisconsin deep in the red zone. One of those drives resulted in a field goal, the other a field goal miss. Those holds aren't called and it's likely not a close game in the first half.
That OPI, especially at the point of the game where it happened, saved Oregon's lunch.
It's amazing to me that a team with a supposed all-world QB and an offensive line full of pre-season AA's could only muster 125 yards after the opening drive of the game.
Oregon survived on the fumes of a lot upperclass experience this season... I honestly see a pretty significant drop off for the Ducks next year, especially if a number of JR's on that D decide to leave for the draft.
2 holding calls in the first half negated long runs by Taylor that would have brought Wisconsin deep in the red zone. One of those drives resulted in a field goal, the other a field goal miss. Those holds aren't called and it's likely not a close game in the first half.
That OPI, especially at the point of the game where it happened, saved Oregon's lunch.
It's amazing to me that a team with a supposed all-world QB and an offensive line full of pre-season AA's could only muster 125 yards after the opening drive of the game.
Oregon survived on the fumes of a lot upperclass experience this season... I honestly see a pretty significant drop off for the Ducks next year, especially if a number of JR's on that D decide to leave for the draft.
I did not watch the game. however it sounds like a college football game with good play ,miscues and bad referring. However the team who won is the better team on that day. One can analyze bitch and moan but the final score is what counts.
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