PAC-12 officiating...Spokesman piece on Oregon game.

[ttowncoug]

How many bad or blown calls were made on Saturday night? And when does our conference Presidents get enough balls to put Scott and his team on the street? It's not getting any better, frankly its getting worse.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/oct/26/tv-take-officiating-controversy-distracts-from-cla/

 

[79COUG]

What I WISH Leach would say when asked about officiating...

"Well gosh, I think we have the very best officiating in the country. Week in and week out, no controversy, no problems. I mean you guys know, often you judge a product by it's reviews and what the public thinks about it. And boy, it sure seems like the rest of the country has a very high regard for Pac 12 officiating. I mean, it's just outstanding! From the guys on the field all the way to the league...just outstanding. I'm hard pressed to remember the last time there was a controversial call in the Pac 12...and THAT is the litmus test when judging a product.
Now then, about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor..."

 

[dgibbons]

How many bad or blown calls were made on Saturday night? And when does our conference Presidents get enough balls to put Scott and his team on the street? It's not getting any better, frankly its getting worse.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/oct/26/tv-take-officiating-controversy-distracts-from-cla/

The illegal touching made no sense. I think I brought it up in the game thread. First, the booth was calling a penalty. Second, the call on the field was PI, and somehow you get an illegal touching call when the defender interfered with the receiver. Third, he caught the ball with his foot out of bounds. How in the hell is that illegal touching? He didn't go out and come back in on his own.

The great irony is that there was that much incompetence on a call where what it really boiled down to was where the ball would be spotted.

 

[SaveFerris]

I thought the 3rd down catch that clearly looked like a trap not being reviewed was amazing. You could see the ball seems to go up to his helmet and then he comes down on the ball. Did he ever control it? I'm not saying it wasn't a catch but review the ****ing play.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Rhetorical asking (again) - what ever happened to the self review/ self reporting the p12 was going to PUBLISH WEEKLY following the weekends games?

https://pac-12.com/article/2019/08/...s-protocols-football-officiating-releases-new

 

[dgibbons]

Rhetorical asking (again) - what ever happened to the self review/ self reporting the p12 was going to PUBLISH WEEKLY following the weekends games?

https://pac-12.com/article/2019/08/...s-protocols-football-officiating-releases-new

Wilner had something about it in the last few months. Basically the conference "is/is moving toward implementing the recommendations."

 

[froropmkr72]

The illegal touching made no sense. I think I brought it up in the game thread. First, the booth was calling a penalty. Second, the call on the field was PI, and somehow you get an illegal touching call when the defender interfered with the receiver. Third, he caught the ball with his foot out of bounds. How in the hell is that illegal touching? He didn't go out and come back in on his own.

The great irony is that there was that much incompetence on a call where what it really boiled down to was where the ball would be spotted.

I guess we're all whining about something.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

The illegal touching made no sense. I think I brought it up in the game thread. First, the booth was calling a penalty. Second, the call on the field was PI, and somehow you get an illegal touching call when the defender interfered with the receiver. Third, he caught the ball with his foot out of bounds. How in the hell is that illegal touching? He didn't go out and come back in on his own.

The great irony is that there was that much incompetence on a call where what it really boiled down to was where the ball would be spotted.

The officiating on that play was a complete CF.

 

[dgibbons]

I guess we're all whining about something.

Some of us are not whining about the offensive scheme or coaches.

 

[froropmkr72]

Some of us are not whining about the offensive scheme or coaches.

So you wouldn't make any coaching changes at the end of the season?

 

[Suudy]

The illegal touching made no sense. I think I brought it up in the game thread. First, the booth was calling a penalty. Second, the call on the field was PI, and somehow you get an illegal touching call when the defender interfered with the receiver. Third, he caught the ball with his foot out of bounds. How in the hell is that illegal touching? He didn't go out and come back in on his own.

The great irony is that there was that much incompetence on a call where what it really boiled down to was where the ball would be spotted.

Yep. I'm with you 100%. In some discussions I've had with other officials, perhaps in review they decided the PI occurred after his foot stepped out (voluntarily). So, you know, that 16 millisecond window that every official clearly cannot see live, but that replay in its 60Hz frame rate clearly can. So live, it was only PI. But when they get into the booth to review, they see another thing, and decide to call that too.

That's the only explanation that would prevent the officials from being complete fools. But even if that was the rationale, it's one more piece of evidence for eliminating replay altogether. Was it that giant delay where Levy and Griese were talking about how replay should be nuked (both only if for both college and pro)?

 

[dgibbons]

So you wouldn't make any coaching changes at the end of the season?

Changes at the end of the season doesn't seem to be what Bianca is bent out of shape about. He seems to be demanding heads on a platter and whining about Leach not giving them to him. Of course Bianca doesn't acknowledge that Mazza is perfect on the season- eight games in, that Harris is 10th in the FBS in KO returns or that Oscar is one of the best punters in the conference. Special teams are not perfect, but this is far from back to back KO returns for TDs.

Since Claeys resigned there is a position that needs to be filled, so obviously there needs to be at least one. I think the staff needs more recruiting punch, especially in Socal. I haven't been impressed with Shaver, or McBath for that matter. At least McBath is stepping into the void and is taking one for the team with Claeys gone.

 

[Fab5Coug]

That was an oddly scattered article by Grippi. Was the article intended to be about the officiating, the broadcast or a game summary. Kind of all over the place.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned, which I was kind of irritated about, was the half time crew pretending to be asleep to start their segment. I mean, I get it, it was a long game and the reviews made it feel like kind of a slog, but it was a good, close game. Not really going out of your way trying to sell the game you're broadcasting by pretending to be asleep during it. Just seemed kind of bush league.

 

[dgibbons]

That was an oddly scattered article by Grippi. Was the article intended to be about the officiating, the broadcast or a game summary. Kind of all over the place.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned, which I was kind of irritated about, was the half time crew pretending to be asleep to start their segment. I mean, I get it, it was a long game and the reviews made it feel like kind of a slog, but it was a good, close game. Not really going out of your way trying to sell the game you're broadcasting by pretending to be asleep during it. Just seemed kind of bush league.

He does this "TV Take" thing where he watches a game on TV and basically comments on the game and the announcing too. I think he does the same thing for GU basketball games too. The concept is weird. But it's cheap content. Have a part-time reporter watch a game on TV and comment.

 

[metprof]

A duck fan in front of us turned around and said "this officiating is just gruesome, regardless who your team is".

Yup.

 

[wazzubruce]

The officials in the PAC-12 always seem to manage to look incompetent. It's automatic anymore.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

LOVED 79's post.

Exactly what Leach could say....no penalty, no fine from the league office, because he is extolling the virtues of the league's officials. Only the cynical could take it any other way....

 

[ATACFD]

What I WISH Leach would say when asked about officiating...

"Well gosh, I think we have the very best officiating in the country. Week in and week out, no controversy, no problems. I mean you guys know, often you judge a product by it's reviews and what the public thinks about it. And boy, it sure seems like the rest of the country has a very high regard for Pac 12 officiating. I mean, it's just outstanding! From the guys on the field all the way to the league...just outstanding. I'm hard pressed to remember the last time there was a controversial call in the Pac 12...and THAT is the litmus test when judging a product.
Now then, about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor..."

Awesome post! Nice touch with the "just outstanding" one of Leach's catch phrases. Someone should send this to Leach. He might just go ahead and use it.

 

[79COUG]

Awesome post! Nice touch with the "just outstanding" one of Leach's catch phrases. Someone should send this to Leach. He might just go ahead and use it.

With the way the refs call games these days, I think if Leach DID say something like that, we wouldn't see a call go our way the rest of the year.