Pac 12 refs suck
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Why would you make a thread titled "water is wet" on a MBB board?
The push off on Kunc in 2OT was ridiculous. Pushing him down with Kunc in good position and then Stanford guy has an open path to score. Oh well, we won it. Noah goes for 40 and almost ties pop's. I'll take it.
It was the 5 second/time out allowed call where Smith lost his mind.
Could have been t'd up (surprised he wasn't) but the refs knew they blew it.
da Silva's 5th foul charge on Noah and the non - 5 second call were clearly, "gotta give Stanford the best possible shot to make it into tourney," calls too. The years tick by, but one thing hasn't changed since Wooden, the habitual double standard officiating in the Pac - 8, 10, 12.
I will add the clean block by Dishon to the list of "giveaways". I think just about every call went Stanford's way after the 10 minute mark in the second half of regulation. Most blatant example of trying to help the NCAA bubble team win a game I've ever seen. Somehow, the Cougars overcame the ref's supreme effort with an outstanding effort of their own.
Glad Cougar
Glad Cougar
"I don't care how bad the refs are...don't throw stuff on the floor".
- G. Raveling
- G. Raveling
Form Webster's:
Stuff (n); referring to items of various nature, sometimes in a group, but specifically excluding Snapple bottles.
Well, plastic cups filled with ice but, yeah.
After downing the last gulp of 7 and 7.
Security was a little lax back then.
Beasley had security? Buddy and i snuck in a case of beer between us on our persons. Looking back i think part of the fun was figuring out new ways to sneak booze into the games.
Chaz said the official went into the huddle during the timeout and apologized for misinterpreting what Efe said after the block. Didn’t change the T though so strange.
Just a bad call period though.
Admittedly it was bad but surely you haven't forgotten the days when Charlie Range, Richie Ballesteros, Bob Sitoff and a couple more I can't think of. They made these guys look like amateurs.
That would have been a huge scandal if that would have cost WSU the game.
It almost did.
The Ref Apologizing to Efe in the Huddle, saying he "Misinterpreted what he heard", that supposedly prompted him to call a WRONG technical foul on Efe, means he was basically saying, admitting:
"I'm sorry, I misinterpreted what you said EFe, I thought you had said such and such, and that because of that, that's why I called the WRONG technical foul on you. I shouldnt have called a technical foul on you. I screwed up. I made a mistake. I'm sorry."
That was PURE INCOMPETANCE on the Ref's part
1. Unless its something clearly technical foul worthy, you let it go uncalled.
2. If you THINK you heard, but arent totally 100% sure what you heard, you dont call the technical, and let it go in that close of a game.
3. You only call the technical, if you are 100% sure what you heard, and if its a CLEARLY Technical Foul worthy, when in a CLOSE game.
I have been a referee in Soccer, Basketball, and have umpired baseball, softball.
There are times I didnt call a Red/Yellow card(Soccer version of a Technical Foul), when I could have, because what was said, did, was borderline, ticky, tacky, and I wasnt all to sure what I heard or saw.
Same for Basketball. I have left some technical fouls uncalled.
And in umpiring, I could have ejected a player(Baseball's version of a technical foul), but didnt because it was borderline.
My Baseball Umpire Assigning Secretary, who was a VETERAN umpire, would always say:
"Your Job is to call the game. Balls and strike, Safe and Out. Your NOT there to be seen and heard. Try to avoid arguing with players and coaches, try to avoid ejecting players. Its up to the players to decide the game, thru their gameplay. Dont affect, decide the game due to blown calls, mistake. That is part of not being seen, heard. If your doing your job right, you will accurately, quietly call balls, strikes, safe, out, catch, no catch, and wont be seen, heard, and all that will be remembered of the game, is not you, the umpire, but the players, gameplay. Do not, try not to be what people remember about the game.
Its clear that the Ref, Pac 12 refs, doesnt go by that.
At least the Ref apologized for his incompetance
And at least it didnt cost WSU the game, like it could have.
The only time I saw security during my years was the exhibition game against the Russian team in '77. THEY had security. A bunch of guys who looked like linebackers, all dressed in dark (drab) colors, including one that sat on the end of the bench. That was the first time I had ever seen & recognized earpieces...I didn't realize until later that I didn't remember earpieces on the Secret Service detail when Mondale visited in...was it '77 or '78?...I don't remember (and I was pretty close when he ate at Stephenson), but they probably had them.
Speaking of the Russians, am I the only one who remembers the 1982 Guy Williams vs. teenage, healthy and svelte Arvydas Sabonis exhibition match up, including the warm up dunk off (otherwise barred by the NCAA). Pollard vs Guy alone was worth the price of admission. Holy crap that was fun!
I was there.
Also watched the Soviets in 74 vs. the USA team in the old Spokane Coliseum - some pretty big names on the US team as I recall. Pretty sure David Thompson and Tom Burleson were on the squad which was kind of an oddity because as I remember, NC State was on probation at the time/no TV and seeing David Thompson was like a unicorn sighting.
74 was a little before my time, I just remember imagining how good we would be if Sabonis defected and put on our greys. I thought he was the best non-pro center I'd seen at the time at only 17. Not as good as Ewing defensively, but his ball handling skill and passing were at the next level already. Sad we never got to see him play in his prime, before all the injuries and Soviet era surgeries. Still good enough to lead the Soviets to the gold in 1988, nevertheless.
Tony Padilla, the ref who called the technical against Efe on Saturday, is the same ref who boned us vs Oregon in 2009.
Oh and he is a Gonzaga alum, because of course he is. Corrupt POS.
ambailcoalition.org
Oh and he is a Gonzaga alum, because of course he is. Corrupt POS.
Day and Night: Tony Padilla Balances His Roles as a Bail Bondsman and a College Basketball Official - American Bail Coalition
Day and Night: Tony Padilla Balances His Roles as a Bail Bondsman and a College Basketball Official By day, Tony Padilla assists people who run afoul of the law. By night – and weekend – he is the law. Padilla is a college basketball official who is officiating in hisRead More →
ambailcoalition.org
Tony Padilla, the ref who called the technical against Efe on Saturday, is the same ref who boned us vs Oregon in 2009.
Oh and he is a Gonzaga alum, because of course he is. Corrupt POS.
Day and Night: Tony Padilla Balances His Roles as a Bail Bondsman and a College Basketball Official - American Bail Coalition
Day and Night: Tony Padilla Balances His Roles as a Bail Bondsman and a College Basketball Official By day, Tony Padilla assists people who run afoul of the law. By night – and weekend – he is the law. Padilla is a college basketball official who is officiating in hisRead More →
That guy needs to be: "YOUR FIRED!!!"
