As of yesterday, there were over 1000 players still in the portal that haven't been picked up yet. Something like 180 are P12 players, 45 of which are Buffaloes.
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Portal orphans
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If memory serves, FCS teams have 60 scholarships to offer.
D2 has a max of 36 “equivalencies” that they divide up across the roster. Keep in mind that is a max. Some programs have 10 total.
No idea on NAIA $$$. If Im guessing it varies from school to school.
D3, no $$$.
With the extra covid year has there ever been a time with more talent available than right now?
Scholarship supply is as it has always been. Demand is higher than ever.
A lot if these kids are gonna find out that Power 5 football is the penthouse and where they are heading is the outhouse.
D2 has a max of 36 “equivalencies” that they divide up across the roster. Keep in mind that is a max. Some programs have 10 total.
No idea on NAIA $$$. If Im guessing it varies from school to school.
D3, no $$$.
With the extra covid year has there ever been a time with more talent available than right now?
Scholarship supply is as it has always been. Demand is higher than ever.
A lot if these kids are gonna find out that Power 5 football is the penthouse and where they are heading is the outhouse.
I do think a portion of transfers are ultimately culling of the bad students. If you leave a p5 program and struggle to get offers it’s obvious there are other issues.
That’s what the NAIA is for.
The second week of August is when you will see the true number. Kids will ride it out as long as they can, then the scramble begins as fall camp gets closer and closer.
I guarantee the portal recruiting staffs at schools are fielding calls and emails all day and night from kids fishing for scholarships or spots.
In the end, I think things will settle down and programs will operate at their historical levels. Of course the big money blue bloods will have greater access to the coveted portal players, but with scholarship limitations in place, they'll still have to manage their rosters. You can't keep everyone.
In our league, UW, Oregon, and Utah (and Colorado in the short term) will be the beneficiaries of the top portal talent, but there will be years when that jumps up and bites them. They'll lose some of their younger talent to the portal, like QBs for example, when they chase an established QB in the portal. Then that star either won't pan out or will get injured and they won't have any depth behind him.
Prudent programs, and I hope WSU adopts this philosophy, will spread their NIL resources around the way the Bill Bellichick has historically managed the Patriots salary cap. Don't chase million-dollar skill position players outside of a top QB. Distribute your money across the offensive line and on defense. They don't cost as much. You can find a lot of young, serviceable RBs, WRs, and LBs. Mike Leach created the blueprint for how to recruit to Pullman. Follow that.
In our league, UW, Oregon, and Utah (and Colorado in the short term) will be the beneficiaries of the top portal talent, but there will be years when that jumps up and bites them. They'll lose some of their younger talent to the portal, like QBs for example, when they chase an established QB in the portal. Then that star either won't pan out or will get injured and they won't have any depth behind him.
Prudent programs, and I hope WSU adopts this philosophy, will spread their NIL resources around the way the Bill Bellichick has historically managed the Patriots salary cap. Don't chase million-dollar skill position players outside of a top QB. Distribute your money across the offensive line and on defense. They don't cost as much. You can find a lot of young, serviceable RBs, WRs, and LBs. Mike Leach created the blueprint for how to recruit to Pullman. Follow that.
I don't disagree in general, but I agree with Bigg's idea of reducing scholarship limits. Cut P5 programs to 70 or 75, and that forces redistribution of talent faster and more vertically.
I agree with that as well. My point is that the programs who traditionally get the 4 & 5 star kids are going to pay for those kids. Programs like WSU who have survived on 3-star talent will continue to recruit those types of kids.
We'll get burned when our young stars leave us for NIL $$$, but we'll in turn lure the stars from the G5 and FCS ranks. The bluebloods are also going to be impacted by this. They're going to have million dollar 19 year olds who alienate the coaches and their roster. We've already learned what happens to programs like USC and Oregon when their attitudes get bigger than their work ethic.
WSU has a pretty decent 40-year body of football work to build on and recruit to. We may not be as glitzy as USC, Oregon, UW, and UCLA, but we offer a great football and campus experience. It'll always be hard to succeed at a high level in Pullman, but I'm confident that we can continue to recruit 20-25 solid players every year.
If the NIL era is tough on WSU, how's it going to be for MWC, Big Sky, and the likes of Cal, Stanford, ASU, Arizona, Oregon State, etc?
Yep, agree. WSU can't offer the big bucks, but if we can offer a little to every recruit and sell the Coug experience we might do OK.
If I was recruiting for one of those blue blood programs, I'd spend very little time on high school kids from now on. I'm going 85+% portal. Let the other programs filter out the arrogant and uncoachable 4 & 5 star kids, and let them find the underrated 3 star kids. When the kid shines as a freshman or sophomore at WSU, I poach him. Let the other schools take the risk on whether prospects will pan out. My recruiting coordinator can spend his time looking at 120 college rosters, instead of looking at thousands of high schools. Makes his job easier.
Of course, I can't directly contact those players at other schools, so I have to have backdoor silent deals with my boosters that can whisper in their ears and get them to put their name in the portal.
I’d take as many 4-5 star kids as I could from HS. Essentially play keep away from other programs. If they play for my team, great. If they don’t, their biggest asset (eligibility) has been depreciated to where it can’t come back to bite me if they leave. If I wanna take their scholarship back, I offer them a NIL stipend to stay that keeps them in my program but still covers their education. Then I send my collective to fleece other schools. I go after lower division All Americans. I don’t offer them a scholarship. I offer them NIL $ to cover their tuition and a walk on spot. Im gonna find a way to make my 85 scholarships look like 130 with a true 6 deep at every position.
There are no more relationships. This is talent acquisition.
Some of these kids are selling HS film that is years gone by. They have no game film. Who knows what their practice film looks like. What exactly do they have to show other schools?
Side note…
This should be the golden age of offensive football. With the ability to treat walk ons like scholarship players with NIL $….. Gone are the days of being forced to choose between more receivers or tight ends…. more lineman or fullbacks…. etc.
An offense can truly load up with 4 deep at FB, 6 deep at TE, 16 deep at receiver, 4 deep at wings… you can run a different formation onto the field every snap and have them all covered 4-5 deep with paid players.
And that's why there needs to be roster limits. Take away the opportunity to keep kids on USC's roster just to prevent them from playing for WSU. 70 roster spots, all on scholarship, period. Force them - especially the blue bloods - to economize positions and let some quality players go. Or, force them to pay kids to not play football at all - which I suppose someone could try, but I don't see being that successful.
And now you know why Ive preached cutting the rosters to 70 kids all in.
No stacking the rosters.
Kids will think longer about the portal.
Talent will get spread out.
Coaches will actually have to coach rather than collect talent.
If the NCAA were smart, which it is not, it would follow the NFL’s lead and find a way to make teams all as equitable as possible.
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