Rick Pitino
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It's never happening but terrible fit for institution and administration. Leach had baggage but it was full of $***. Pitino's is real and ongoing.
No thanks.
No thanks.
I agree with sgt Schultz but for different reasons. It is only thought about in a alternative universe. Hold your horses nelly! Oh my god the Martians have landed!
Actually it is because when Pitino went to the Celtics, he demanded (and got), the President's title - taken away from Red Auerbach. And Sgt Schulz is apprehensive, because the good Sgt knows he ain't no Red Auerbach.
Can you imagine Pitino lecturing the Cougar boosters to expect less like he did Celtics fans?
"Mike Wurm isn't walking through that door. Kojo Mensah-Bonsu isn't here. Rodrigo DelFuente no esta aqui"
I agree with sgt Schultz but for different reasons. It is only thought about in a alternative universe. Hold your horses nelly! Oh my god the Martians have landed!
Why do martians have to land to get Pitino . Damaged goods . Some school will take a flyer if they think he can still cosch and recruit. I think if rick isn’t gonna cheat it would be in Pullman cause he won’t have booster money to spend so it would have to be on his dime and his dime would be hugely reduced . Matter of fact I would pay him 200k a year . And if he coache five years without cheating he gets a huge bonus, retro pay if you will .
The FBI probe into the college basketball payoff scheme is still ongoing. Pitino and some others go to trial in the spring I believe.
To see him go to a federal pen before coaching a game?
Let’s be honest too. The slush fund the dude needs for his recruiting operations is not going to be available here.
If you think that Pitino would ever consider WSU then you are living in an alternative Universe.
Gotta agree with everyone else on this. Pitino is the last guy that I want to have our athletics program associated with. There are a few coaches in the world that are genuinely dirty and despicable.....and Pitino is one of them. Dude is a serious slimeball. Art Briles is the only coach that I can think of without hesitation that's a bigger scumbag than Pitino.
He is in a holding pattern and big city boy Pitino will land a big job at 2 million plus which cash strapped WSU cannot afford. Pitino in Pullman give me a break. Come to think of it if they hire Pitino at 2+ and combine that with paying off Kent then they are equaling the coaches pay for a big time basketball University. The cougs can become a major player after-all.
He is in a holding pattern and big city boy Pitino will land a big job at 2 million plus which cash strapped WSU cannot afford. Pitino in Pullman give me a break. Come to think of it if they hire Pitino at 2+ and combine that with paying off Kent then they are equaling the coaches pay for a big time basketball University. The cougs can become a major player after-all.
It will be interesting to see if Pitino ever gets back into college coaching. In an interview last fall, he made it clear that he wanted to coach but that the NCAA was preventing that from happening and nothing has changed since then to suggest that we could hire him if we wanted to. Given the current legal situation, he'll probably have a show cause imposed upon him at some point and will not be employable until around 2022. At that point, he'll be 70 years old. Will he be interested in a job at that point?
watched an ESPN piece yesterday on Jim Calhoun coming out of retirement to lead a D-3 team - because that's what coaches do, coach.
Not sure Pitino is wired to go that route but it was pretty cool to watch Calhoun mold his team from scratch. And he looked pretty happy doing it.
I"m sure with millions of dollars in the bank, that kind of eases the pressure a little, too.
He is in a holding pattern and big city boy Pitino will land a big job at 2 million plus which cash strapped WSU cannot afford. Pitino in Pullman give me a break. Come to think of it if they hire Pitino at 2+ and combine that with paying off Kent then they are equaling the coaches pay for a big time basketball University. The cougs can become a major player after-all.
Hmmm... you think Pitino at 66 with that baggage will be demanding a 2 million plus salary if someone hires him. Not sure team in Greece paying him that type of money? Do you?
I would venture to say yes. There are some high rollers in Greece and they like the name association. He is a big name and some university will spend that cash. UNLV is still a distinct possibility and 2 mil would only open discussions.Hell these programs really do not care about baggage they just want to win.
El...the one thing that throws me off is your belief a guy that finished 11th and had five years in a sport that with the right coach could have seen the tangible evidence that we saw this year with that small run in the middle would be seen in year three. Maybe I am not all that close to the program, but it seemed people were pretty easy on Kent, especially for a guy who wasn't a rookie and had some success at Oregon.
Then the personal attack on Ken Bone and one could say he was the worse, but you seemed over the top. Why the difference? Is there something in their personal life you deem different and more noteworthy in Kent's world?
I have shared this a time or two. I know Ken Bone. I wouldn't say he is a close friend of mine, but if he saw me on the streets in Pullman or Seattle, he would say hello, ask me how my sister is (his age) , and then we would talk a bit. He is very close to a good friend of mine. Actually several friends of mine.
To a person, his biggest advocates said Ken had enough time and didn't get it done. It wasn't the right fit. He made a couple of mistakes along the way, (changing the defense and choosing Moore over Thames to start that year) and that he thought he would be able to get the second tier Seattle Metro kids. And BTW, I am not sure any coach who saw Moore on the court as a freshman would have doubted why he handled the ball and got more minutes than Thames in the non conference games their freshman year.
So I am puzzled that you have such a reaction to one coach (Kent) and have the exact opposite reaction to another (Bone).
Ed i refuse to get into a marathon discussion with you like others do on other threads. It becomes one question after another after another. Perhaps one day i will buy you dinner or lunch in Pullman and we can discuss this further.
That will work but you do understand my confusion as one coach you respected and another you called bonehead... and for all of Bones shortcomings class and how he represented the school were second to none .
Ed, with all due respect, are you from the infamous "there Is no such thing as bad publicity" school of thought?
You (and apparently some higher ups at Brand X, too) think it'd be a good idea to hire a coach who might be getting sentenced to prison while his players are getting ready for summer workouts in Pullman?
Why are you in favor of this?
Cause he wins . Does he need to cheat to win? Where will the slush fund come from ? Who will be that donor that will hand over bag loads of cash . And really, is there really a need for woman of the night?
And maybe Pitino is simply a guy who can’t control himself. Kinda reminds me of a public figure that lies about stuff he doesn’t need to lie about . The lie is not necessary, yet it is still told. Maybe Pitino is cut from the same cloth, maybe he simply cannot do it in a honest way.
I guess I might have have to go over to Brand Y as there seem to be like minded individuals over there that can tell me how in tune I am in with the hiring process .
I'm not going to get all holier than thou....but Pitino boned some chick in a restaurant that ended up claiming that she was pregnant. Of course, Pitino, being the righteous man that he was, ponied up $3,000 for an abortion to make the situation go away. When it came to light, he tried to defend it by saying that it wasn't a big deal because he busted a nut in "No more than 15 seconds." Now, the woman that he had sex with was a piece of trash herself (and ended up in jail), but that says a lot about the kind of man that Pitino is. Lord only knows what skeletons that he has buried that he's managed to keep hidden.
Some negative stories about coach's are total BS and when the light shines bright, you realize that it isn't really a story at all. With Pitino, the more the light shines, the sketchier he looks. For a guy who has spent so much time defending a different coach who was doing it the "right way", it's kind of funny to see you willing to sell out for success in basketball for a guy who is notoriously dirty. The NCAA has shown a tendency to be relentless when attacking coaches that they have deemed dirty. Are you really willing to see WSU end up on probation just because Pitino would probably get us to the NCAA tournament?
We have been on probation for the last 10 years. There are controls you can place on him, plus there are natural controls in place that would either eliminate or reduce the likelihood of it occurring again.
In terms of his “morality” not sure that is my place to judge . Always been my position that a much more perfect person than myself to make that call.
Sorry........it is absolutely a university's responsibility to judge the morality of their hires. Just to go too far.....you're ok with Sandusky taking advantage of kids as long as he does it on his own time and you don't hear about it? Where do you draw the line on morality?
When you are getting ready to pay someone millions of dollars, you don't hire a person of questionable character. End.......of........story.
This story ended before Ed's original post. Never mind his additional 8 posts trying to keep it alive. C'mon Ed. Same with your Kelvin Sampson thread.
Where do I draw the line or where does a university? Yeah, the Sandusky is a great example. Hell, only if Michael Jackson could coach.
In your example, are you saying the woman did not consent? Not sure WSU or probably many schools have a lot of wiggle room on the morality spectrum. Didn't our last coach have some personal baggage that we looked the other way?
Yeah, Pitino isn't coming here. But many of the elements that he got in trouble for won't be in play in Pullman. Heck, I am not sure Kelvin was a saint with regards to the NCAA in Pullman, matter of fact I know he wasn't, but there is apparatus around that almost guarantees the really troubling NCAA stuff won't take place. Which booster do you believe that went to WSU is going to hand over a wad of cash to a recruit?
I didn't make a comment about consent and never implied anything either way. She was a piece of trash who tried to blackmail Pitino so I really don't care to even discuss that part of it. At the end of the day though, Pitino was giving some bimbo the hot beef injection in a freaking restaurant while he was married to another woman. Now, I don't really care if you, or anyone else wants to bone some random strange while you are married. But if I'm WSU, I don't want to hire a guy who doesn't have more common sense, discretion and honor than that. Again......millions of dollars are on the line. That makes it different.
As for Kelvin Sampson.....I'd rather stay away from him too. It will not surprise anyone to find out that Houston is in trouble at some point. We don't need a saint, but we don't need to chase after guys with negative histories.
Person #1: Paying players, providing hookers for underage recruits, and banging random women in public places.
Person #2: Ran off with a co-ed to Mexico for a weekend.
Ed: "See, no one's perfect and who am I to judge?"
When you talk about "millions" of dollars on the line are you talking the revenue side of the equation, or are you talking about the money we would pay a coach?
I think someone like Pitino or Sampson would increase our revenue, not be a drag on it. I think the interest alone would put more backsides in the seats.
If it is salary, you have to be smart about it. Pay him 7.5 for five years. That is 1.5 a year. Heck, make it 2 a year, or 10 million. But you pay him 500k in an annual salary, then after year five you pay him 3.50 million in a lump sum IF he scandal free, and then pay him the other 3.5 mil after year 7 if there are no major infractions.
Well if having sex with another woman outside of being married was a disqualifier, then we wouldn't have had our last coach, and trust me there are many others who couldn't be hired either. Heck, the President of our country had two affairs that people know about and we as a society don't bleak an eye. So not sure that should be the disqualifier in this instance.
Per Loyal, CougEd's girlfriend looks as good as Christie Brinkley.
Doubt he could bothered to chase after another woman.
Well... if your point is you personally didn't like it the first time and you wouldn't like it the second time, I get it, but for the university the precedent has been set.
I'll spell it out for you then. Kent was always a bad hire and Pitinio would be infinitely worse.
And if you get Ken Bone Jr, a squeaky clean candidate and we suck without progress for the next five years, is the program in a better position than hiring a coach whether it is Pitino or someone else with baggage that you can put bumpers in place to limit the damage they do?.
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There is probably another bad point in there but what exactly are you trying to say?
