Ridiculous travel schedule "NOT sustainable" for former Pac-12 football teams...

[M-I-Coug]

Ridiculous travel schedule not sustainable for former Pac-12 football teams​

USC, UCLA, Washington, Cal and Stanford are criss-crossing the country - and losing​

Ben Sherman| Sports Illustrated/ Oct 15, 2024

Kenny Dillingham and Arizona State are having more success this season than any former Pac-12 program except Oregon. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

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After finishing 14-1 in its final season in the Pac-12 - and advancing all the way to the CFP National Championship game - the Washington Huskies were expected to ride that momentum into the Big Ten.

USC, UCLA and Oregon were expected to do the same.

Entering Week 8 of the 2024 college football season, the Ducks are the only Big Ten program doing their part to make the disbanded Pac-12 look good. Oregon (6-0) is ranked No. 2 in the country and is coming off a thrilling 32-31 victory over Ohio State.

The other three programs are a combined 8-11 overall and 0-5 on the road in the Big Ten. USC (3-3) is arguably the biggest disappointment as Lincoln Riley's program continues to backslide. Midway through his third season in Los Angeles, the 41-year-old Riley is 22-11 - three games worse than his predecessor Clay Helton was at the same juncture.

Riley is clearly feeling the heat, and has been testy in his recent postgame press conferences. After losing to Minnesota he snapped at a reporter's question about the biggest play in the game and refused to let his player answer. After Saturday's overtime loss to Penn State, he was defensive and lamented the Trojans' tough schedule. Welcome to the Big Ten, Lincoln.

"The reality of it is we've played the toughest schedule in the country the first six games, we've had a chance to win all six games," Riley said. "And that's hard to do. Like, to put yourself in position to win these games is friggin' hard to do to begin with."

Arizona State Turnaround​

Arizona State running back Cam Skattebo (4) has played a big role in the Sun Devils' surprising start to the season. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

Of the four Pac-12 teams that jumped to the Big 12, Arizona State was the afterthought. The Sun Devils were coming off a 3-9 season and picked to finish dead last in their first season in the Big 12.

Six games into the season, the Sun Devils are making the Pac-12 look good. Kenny Dillingham's program is 5-1 and coming off a nationally televised 27-19 upset of then-No. 16 Utah. The Sun Devils aren't ranked, but they're knocking on the door after receiving 39 votes in this week's AP Top 25 poll.

The other three former Pac-12 programs are faring better than their Big Ten counterparts, but none of them are ranked. Utah, Arizona and Colorado are a combined 11-7 overall, but just 4-5 in conference play.

Consider this: If the old Pac-12 was still together, the conference would have one ranked team (No. 2 Oregon) heading into the second half of the 2024 season. Last season at this point the Pac-12 had six ranked teams: No. 5 Washington, No. 9 Oregon, No. 12 Oregon State, No. 14 Utah, No. 18 USC and No. 25 UCLA.

Travel Schedule Not Sustainable​

The Washington Huskies have already played Big Ten road games at Rutgers (2,402 air miles) and Iowa (1,464 air miles). They still have to travel to Indiana (1,866 air miles) and Penn State (2,400-plus air miles). / Vincent Carchietta-Imagn Images

Travel is one of the biggest factors impacting the Big Ten teams on the West Coast. It was widely discussed in advance, and now they're seeing it play out. UCLA (1-5) has already played one game in the Eastern Time Zone (at Penn State) and has another one coming up at Rutgers. USC has traveled to Michigan and to Minnesota - and this week they fly to Maryland. Washington (4-3) has arguably the toughest road slate. The Huskies have already played at Rutgers and at Iowa, and they still have to travel to Indiana and Penn State.

Their combined records in those road games? 0-5.

Then there's Cal (3-3) and Stanford (2-4), who are navigating through hellish travel schedules in the ACC. The two football programs will combine to log over 34,000 air miles this season as they crisscross the country from the Bay Area to upstate New York and multiple points in between.

The Sun Devils face their first Eastern Time Zone test this weekend at Cincinnati, and Dillingham knows all too well how difficult it will be.

"If you look at right now in college football, traveling three time zones and the win percentage, like I told our guys, is very, very, very low," said Dillingham in his Monday press conference. "If you just looked at that, and you didn't even look at the football teams, you just said 'who's traveling three time zones?' and you bet on the other team, you're gonna win the majority because it's such a challenge. Especially for college athletes who maybe don't go to bed when they should like a pro athlete does when he's preparing to do that."

Travel is one of many circumstances impacting former Pac-12 teams this season - but it is arguably the biggest one. It is not sustainable - especially the ACC schedule - and it begs the question on many people's minds: How long will it last?

Side note:

Some of those kids in those sports are actually there for the degree. They used their athletic ability to get admitted to schools like UW, Cal, Stanford, etc. which are actually hard to get into. I don’t see how missing class, which is actually required in most schools, and playing a soccer game in East Lansing on a weekday, are compatible.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Ridiculous travel schedule not sustainable for former Pac-12 football teams​

USC, UCLA, Washington, Cal and Stanford are criss-crossing the country - and losing​

Ben Sherman| Sports Illustrated/ Oct 15, 2024

Kenny Dillingham and Arizona State are having more success this season than any former Pac-12 program except Oregon. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

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After finishing 14-1 in its final season in the Pac-12 - and advancing all the way to the CFP National Championship game - the Washington Huskies were expected to ride that momentum into the Big Ten.

USC, UCLA and Oregon were expected to do the same.

Entering Week 8 of the 2024 college football season, the Ducks are the only Big Ten program doing their part to make the disbanded Pac-12 look good. Oregon (6-0) is ranked No. 2 in the country and is coming off a thrilling 32-31 victory over Ohio State.

The other three programs are a combined 8-11 overall and 0-5 on the road in the Big Ten. USC (3-3) is arguably the biggest disappointment as Lincoln Riley's program continues to backslide. Midway through his third season in Los Angeles, the 41-year-old Riley is 22-11 - three games worse than his predecessor Clay Helton was at the same juncture.

Riley is clearly feeling the heat, and has been testy in his recent postgame press conferences. After losing to Minnesota he snapped at a reporter's question about the biggest play in the game and refused to let his player answer. After Saturday's overtime loss to Penn State, he was defensive and lamented the Trojans' tough schedule. Welcome to the Big Ten, Lincoln.

"The reality of it is we've played the toughest schedule in the country the first six games, we've had a chance to win all six games," Riley said. "And that's hard to do. Like, to put yourself in position to win these games is friggin' hard to do to begin with."

Arizona State Turnaround​

Arizona State running back Cam Skattebo (4) has played a big role in the Sun Devils' surprising start to the season. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

Of the four Pac-12 teams that jumped to the Big 12, Arizona State was the afterthought. The Sun Devils were coming off a 3-9 season and picked to finish dead last in their first season in the Big 12.

Six games into the season, the Sun Devils are making the Pac-12 look good. Kenny Dillingham's program is 5-1 and coming off a nationally televised 27-19 upset of then-No. 16 Utah. The Sun Devils aren't ranked, but they're knocking on the door after receiving 39 votes in this week's AP Top 25 poll.

The other three former Pac-12 programs are faring better than their Big Ten counterparts, but none of them are ranked. Utah, Arizona and Colorado are a combined 11-7 overall, but just 4-5 in conference play.

Consider this: If the old Pac-12 was still together, the conference would have one ranked team (No. 2 Oregon) heading into the second half of the 2024 season. Last season at this point the Pac-12 had six ranked teams: No. 5 Washington, No. 9 Oregon, No. 12 Oregon State, No. 14 Utah, No. 18 USC and No. 25 UCLA.

Travel Schedule Not Sustainable​

The Washington Huskies have already played Big Ten road games at Rutgers (2,402 air miles) and Iowa (1,464 air miles). They still have to travel to Indiana (1,866 air miles) and Penn State (2,400-plus air miles). / Vincent Carchietta-Imagn Images

Travel is one of the biggest factors impacting the Big Ten teams on the West Coast. It was widely discussed in advance, and now they're seeing it play out. UCLA (1-5) has already played one game in the Eastern Time Zone (at Penn State) and has another one coming up at Rutgers. USC has traveled to Michigan and to Minnesota - and this week they fly to Maryland. Washington (4-3) has arguably the toughest road slate. The Huskies have already played at Rutgers and at Iowa, and they still have to travel to Indiana and Penn State.

Their combined records in those road games? 0-5.

Then there's Cal (3-3) and Stanford (2-4), who are navigating through hellish travel schedules in the ACC. The two football programs will combine to log over 34,000 air miles this season as they crisscross the country from the Bay Area to upstate New York and multiple points in between.

The Sun Devils face their first Eastern Time Zone test this weekend at Cincinnati, and Dillingham knows all too well how difficult it will be.

"If you look at right now in college football, traveling three time zones and the win percentage, like I told our guys, is very, very, very low," said Dillingham in his Monday press conference. "If you just looked at that, and you didn't even look at the football teams, you just said 'who's traveling three time zones?' and you bet on the other team, you're gonna win the majority because it's such a challenge. Especially for college athletes who maybe don't go to bed when they should like a pro athlete does when he's preparing to do that."

Travel is one of many circumstances impacting former Pac-12 teams this season - but it is arguably the biggest one. It is not sustainable - especially the ACC schedule - and it begs the question on many people's minds: How long will it last?

Side note:

Some of those kids in those sports are actually there for the degree. They used their athletic ability to get admitted to schools like UW, Cal, Stanford, etc. which are actually hard to get into. I don’t see how missing class, which is actually required in most schools, and playing a soccer game in East Lansing on a weekday, are compatible.

My initial, but highly cerebral reaction: Cry baby cry, stick a finger in your eye.
2nd reaction. OK Pac=X, do we really want to create the same shit at less than half the money? Memphis? Tulane? Texas-whoever the F?

I'm telling you. Grab nearby Sac State. They will explode, like the 1997 Cougs. Then go to Oregon where pot and mushrooms are legal and meet with the entire Pac and MW AD's and the Commissioners (our lame one and cute Gloria). Forge the Pac-MW Championship game (much like the NFL=AFL meetings before the merger). Guaranteed FBS bid.

 

[Coug1990]

I said it before, the travel is going to hurt the football teams. But it is going to hurt the other sports even worse, as they will do a lot more traveling because there are generally more games. I do not think any of us feel sorry for any of them.

 

[dgibbons]

Ridiculous travel schedule not sustainable for former Pac-12 football teams​

USC, UCLA, Washington, Cal and Stanford are criss-crossing the country - and losing​

Ben Sherman| Sports Illustrated/ Oct 15, 2024

Kenny Dillingham and Arizona State are having more success this season than any former Pac-12 program except Oregon. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

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After finishing 14-1 in its final season in the Pac-12 - and advancing all the way to the CFP National Championship game - the Washington Huskies were expected to ride that momentum into the Big Ten.

USC, UCLA and Oregon were expected to do the same.

Entering Week 8 of the 2024 college football season, the Ducks are the only Big Ten program doing their part to make the disbanded Pac-12 look good. Oregon (6-0) is ranked No. 2 in the country and is coming off a thrilling 32-31 victory over Ohio State.

The other three programs are a combined 8-11 overall and 0-5 on the road in the Big Ten. USC (3-3) is arguably the biggest disappointment as Lincoln Riley's program continues to backslide. Midway through his third season in Los Angeles, the 41-year-old Riley is 22-11 - three games worse than his predecessor Clay Helton was at the same juncture.

Riley is clearly feeling the heat, and has been testy in his recent postgame press conferences. After losing to Minnesota he snapped at a reporter's question about the biggest play in the game and refused to let his player answer. After Saturday's overtime loss to Penn State, he was defensive and lamented the Trojans' tough schedule. Welcome to the Big Ten, Lincoln.

"The reality of it is we've played the toughest schedule in the country the first six games, we've had a chance to win all six games," Riley said. "And that's hard to do. Like, to put yourself in position to win these games is friggin' hard to do to begin with."

Arizona State Turnaround​

Arizona State running back Cam Skattebo (4) has played a big role in the Sun Devils' surprising start to the season. / Rob Schumacher/The Republic / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

Of the four Pac-12 teams that jumped to the Big 12, Arizona State was the afterthought. The Sun Devils were coming off a 3-9 season and picked to finish dead last in their first season in the Big 12.

Six games into the season, the Sun Devils are making the Pac-12 look good. Kenny Dillingham's program is 5-1 and coming off a nationally televised 27-19 upset of then-No. 16 Utah. The Sun Devils aren't ranked, but they're knocking on the door after receiving 39 votes in this week's AP Top 25 poll.

The other three former Pac-12 programs are faring better than their Big Ten counterparts, but none of them are ranked. Utah, Arizona and Colorado are a combined 11-7 overall, but just 4-5 in conference play.

Consider this: If the old Pac-12 was still together, the conference would have one ranked team (No. 2 Oregon) heading into the second half of the 2024 season. Last season at this point the Pac-12 had six ranked teams: No. 5 Washington, No. 9 Oregon, No. 12 Oregon State, No. 14 Utah, No. 18 USC and No. 25 UCLA.

Travel Schedule Not Sustainable​

The Washington Huskies have already played Big Ten road games at Rutgers (2,402 air miles) and Iowa (1,464 air miles). They still have to travel to Indiana (1,866 air miles) and Penn State (2,400-plus air miles). / Vincent Carchietta-Imagn Images

Travel is one of the biggest factors impacting the Big Ten teams on the West Coast. It was widely discussed in advance, and now they're seeing it play out. UCLA (1-5) has already played one game in the Eastern Time Zone (at Penn State) and has another one coming up at Rutgers. USC has traveled to Michigan and to Minnesota - and this week they fly to Maryland. Washington (4-3) has arguably the toughest road slate. The Huskies have already played at Rutgers and at Iowa, and they still have to travel to Indiana and Penn State.

Their combined records in those road games? 0-5.

Then there's Cal (3-3) and Stanford (2-4), who are navigating through hellish travel schedules in the ACC. The two football programs will combine to log over 34,000 air miles this season as they crisscross the country from the Bay Area to upstate New York and multiple points in between.

The Sun Devils face their first Eastern Time Zone test this weekend at Cincinnati, and Dillingham knows all too well how difficult it will be.

"If you look at right now in college football, traveling three time zones and the win percentage, like I told our guys, is very, very, very low," said Dillingham in his Monday press conference. "If you just looked at that, and you didn't even look at the football teams, you just said 'who's traveling three time zones?' and you bet on the other team, you're gonna win the majority because it's such a challenge. Especially for college athletes who maybe don't go to bed when they should like a pro athlete does when he's preparing to do that."

Travel is one of many circumstances impacting former Pac-12 teams this season - but it is arguably the biggest one. It is not sustainable - especially the ACC schedule - and it begs the question on many people's minds: How long will it last?

Side note:

Some of those kids in those sports are actually there for the degree. They used their athletic ability to get admitted to schools like UW, Cal, Stanford, etc. which are actually hard to get into. I don’t see how missing class, which is actually required in most schools, and playing a soccer game in East Lansing on a weekday, are compatible.

Too bad, so sad.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Too bad, so sad.

I think it is funny that both the mutts and Ducks had/have Friday away games, and an additional Friday home game.

 

[Stretch 74]

My initial, but highly cerebral reaction: Cry baby cry, stick a finger in your eye.
2nd reaction. OK Pac=X, do we really want to create the same shit at less than half the money? Memphis? Tulane? Texas-whoever the F?

I'm telling you. Grab nearby Sac State. They will explode, like the 1997 Cougs. Then go to Oregon where pot and mushrooms are legal and meet with the entire Pac and MW AD's and the Commissioners (our lame one and cute Gloria). Forge the Pac-MW Championship game (much like the NFL=AFL meetings before the merger). Guaranteed FBS bid.

They're old enough to know better, so cry baby cry!

Too bad that those schools didn't pay attention to the collective wisdom here at WW/CZ, cuz we told them it was going to happen.

 

[altolug]

Called it months ago. The travel cost is going to eat into costs, wear on the team for long travels, fan traveling. Teams should only be the Rockies and the west for the league. Nothing East of the Rockies say Pac. Would not be surprised if a few teams come crawling back

 

[SaveFerris]

Called it months ago. The travel cost is going to eat into costs, wear on the team for long travels, fan traveling. Teams should only be the Rockies and the west for the league. Nothing East of the Rockies say Pac. Would not be surprised if a few teams come crawling back

Until teleporting is a thing, geography kinda' matters...a lot. The former Pac 8 schools all made short-sided decisions based in weakness. Most of the decision centered around football and nothing else.

If football breaks off, I could see more than a few teams "crawling back". They are all locked in until the next round of contracts.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Until teleporting is a thing, geography kinda' matters...a lot. The former Pac 8 schools all made short-sided decisions based in weakness. Most of the decision centered around football and nothing else.

If football breaks off, I could see more than a few teams "crawling back". They are all locked in until the next round of contracts.

Don't bet on it. Cal maybe. Stanford, not so much. The Big-12 traitors are geographically in decent shape. The B1G traitors? Too much money.

 

[SaveFerris]

Don't bet on it. Cal maybe. Stanford, not so much. The Big-12 traitors are geographically in decent shape. The B1G traitors? Too much money.

Only talking about the former "Pac 8" schools although Utah seems to hate being in the Big 12. Calford in the ACC is still completely ridiculous. Agree they aren't coming back to hook up with us and OSU let alone Boise and Fresno.

I'm not holding my breath let alone predicting it, but it wouldn't surprise me either if football completely broke off. If there is any benefit for the other sports it would dramatically drop off without football being in the mix.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Only talking about the former "Pac 8" schools although Utah seems to hate being in the Big 12. Calford in the ACC is still completely ridiculous. Agree they aren't coming back to hook up with us and OSU let alone Boise and Fresno.

I'm not holding my breath let alone predicting it, but it wouldn't surprise me either if football completely broke off. If there is any benefit for the other sports it would dramatically drop off without football being in the mix.

Utah hates the Big-12? If so, could it be that they are in a 5-way tie for 9th?

 

[SaveFerris]

Utah hates the Big-12? If so, could it be that they are in a 5-way tie for 9th?

This was all before the season started. Whittingham suggesting they weren't going to be in the Big 12 for very long. They supposedly don't like being in the same conference with BYU. Whether there is any "smoke" to either, I have no idea.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

This was all before the season started. Whittingham suggesting they weren't going to be in the Big 12 for very long. They supposedly don't like being in the same conference with BYU. Whether there is any "smoke" to either, I have no idea.

Mormon on Mormon hate. Odd. That's all I have to say about that.

 

[425cougfan]

Good news! Players now have more choice than they used to and they can leave schools like UW to go to schools that have access to the playoff, get their players solid national coverage (e.g., Jeanty's Heisman campaign), and don't make their student-athletes suffer like this. It isn't only schools and coaches that make these decisions.

It's an argument we should bear in mind when considering Tulane and Memphis, too. Not saying we don't take them. But there is something to being able to say our schools are in the highest-caliber conference out west--and one of relatively few overall, considering ACC, Big 12, and B1G travel, that doesn't force its players to engage in a great deal of ridiculous travel while still providing access to the playoff and getting their players good exposure and NFL readiness.

 

[COCoug]

I guess I'm not quite buying the travel excuse. I thought when they announced they claimed they were all going to fly charter jets? Once you are in the plane, an extra hour or so doesn't matter that much. The PAC 12 had a lot of travel in conference, especially for WSU. Traveling from Pullman to Arizona isn't much different than USC traveling from LA to Minneapolis. Seattle to New Jersey is a little longer, but not exactly crushing. The home field is a HUGE advantage, for every teams. Witness UW versus Michigan and Oregon versus OSU. I just think these other teams were overrated and they are looking for excuses. What is Cal's excuse for choking away the huge lead at home against Miami? They were tired from the last trip?

Do agree it could be a little grim for the non-revenue sports unless they have a charter too...

 

[M-I-Coug]

I guess I'm not quite buying the travel excuse. I thought when they announced they claimed they were all going to fly charter jets? Once you are in the plane, an extra hour or so doesn't matter that much. The PAC 12 had a lot of travel in conference, especially for WSU. Traveling from Pullman to Arizona isn't much different than USC traveling from LA to Minneapolis. Seattle to New Jersey is a little longer, but not exactly crushing. The home field is a HUGE advantage, for every teams. Witness UW versus Michigan and Oregon versus OSU. I just think these other teams were overrated and they are looking for excuses. What is Cal's excuse for choking away the huge lead at home against Miami? They were tired from the last trip?

Do agree it could be a little grim for the non-revenue sports unless they have a charter too...

Fair enough, but playing a soccer game in East Lansing on a weekday, is kind of brutal when you're going to Palo Alto or Berkeley as a student. I get they have tutors, but that's got to be rough when you're going to Cal or Stanford. And it's not like they're getting hired into the MLS. They just want to get their degree and live a successful life.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Mormon on Mormon hate. Odd. That's all I have to say about that.

I think the hate comes from the 2 or 4 wives in the other rooms listening to Mormon on Mormon.....

 

[SaveFerris]

I guess I'm not quite buying the travel excuse. I thought when they announced they claimed they were all going to fly charter jets? Once you are in the plane, an extra hour or so doesn't matter that much. The PAC 12 had a lot of travel in conference, especially for WSU. Traveling from Pullman to Arizona isn't much different than USC traveling from LA to Minneapolis. Seattle to New Jersey is a little longer, but not exactly crushing. The home field is a HUGE advantage, for every teams. Witness UW versus Michigan and Oregon versus OSU. I just think these other teams were overrated and they are looking for excuses. What is Cal's excuse for choking away the huge lead at home against Miami? They were tired from the last trip?

Do agree it could be a little grim for the non-revenue sports unless they have a charter too...

Yeah, I always find it so ridiculous during games when one of the people in the booth talk about how difficult it is to get to Pullman. Sure, but other teams had to make that trip once maybe every 2 years. WSU does it half the season.

With the programs that joined the B1G, t's not just the travel itself. It's the impact of the timezone change and game time. Going west to east coast for a 12PM EST game is difficult. Going east to west for a 730PM PST game isn't quite as tough, but still difficult for east coast games.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Yeah, I always find it so ridiculous during games when one of the people in the booth talk about how difficult it is to get to Pullman. Sure, but other teams had to make that trip once maybe every 2 years. WSU does it half the season.

With the programs that joined the B1G, t's not just the travel itself. It's the impact of the timezone change and game time. Going west to east coast for a 12PM EST game is difficult. Going east to west for a 730PM PST game isn't quite as tough, but still difficult for east coast games.

You mean the FS1 booth guys broadcasting from LA? And don't visiting teams land in Pullman now with our expanded airport?

 

[BiggsCoug]

None of these schools care about the travel. They care about the money. Kids upset? Fck em. Get new kids. Don’t have time to study? Put tutors on the planes. They can pay them. Or the kids can pay kids to take their tests for them with their NIL $$$.

The only people whining about the travel are the fans of schools that got left out.

 

[95coug]

None of these schools care about the travel. They care about the money. Kids upset? Fck em. Get new kids. Don’t have time to study? Put tutors on the planes. They can pay them. Or the kids can pay kids to take their tests for them with their NIL $$$.

The only people whining about the travel are the fans of schools that got left out.

Grades don’t matter. Players don’t need time to study. It won’t be long until the players are employees and don’t need to go to class anyway.

 

[Cougini5591]

None of these schools care about the travel. They care about the money. Kids upset? Fck em. Get new kids. Don’t have time to study? Put tutors on the planes. They can pay them. Or the kids can pay kids to take their tests for them with their NIL $$$.

The only people whining about the travel are the fans of schools that got left out.

I laugh at how "the fans" want giant bowl games... playoffs...

But hate the idea of traveling for conference games.

 

[BSpike76]

I guess I'm not quite buying the travel excuse. I thought when they announced they claimed they were all going to fly charter jets? Once you are in the plane, an extra hour or so doesn't matter that much. The PAC 12 had a lot of travel in conference, especially for WSU. Traveling from Pullman to Arizona isn't much different than USC traveling from LA to Minneapolis. Seattle to New Jersey is a little longer, but not exactly crushing. The home field is a HUGE advantage, for every teams. Witness UW versus Michigan and Oregon versus OSU. I just think these other teams were overrated and they are looking for excuses. What is Cal's excuse for choking away the huge lead at home against Miami? They were tired from the last trip?

Do agree it could be a little grim for the non-revenue sports unless they have a charter too...

Does changing time zones have more of an affect than distance when it come to jet lag? I found coming back from Japan harder than the trip out for business.

 

[425cougfan]

Does changing time zones have more of an affect than distance when it come to jet lag? I found coming back from Japan harder than the trip out for business.

Depends on things like one's chronotype -- I am a big-time night owl and was even more of one in college, as were most people I knew -- and when a game is. It also really is both. But if you imagine something like flying Detroit to Miami, a 3-hour flight, and compare it with something like LA to New Orleans (3 hour, 40-minute flight time), they aren't remotely the same thing since one remains in the same time zone and one has a three-hour change. This especially is the case with something like a noon kickoff ET and a bunch of college kids used to practicing and playing mainly in the evening in PT.

 

[95coug]

Does changing time zones have more of an affect than distance when it come to jet lag? I found coming back from Japan harder than the trip out for business.

It’s all the time zones, distance doesn’t much matter. Pullman to LA is the same time zone. Pullman to Minneapolis is 2 time zones, so You lose 2 hours and everything happens 2 hours sooner. Takes a bit of adjustment.

Reversing it and going Minneapolis to Pullman is different because you gain the 2 hours. Might make it harder to deal with a late kickoff, but most of the time it’s not going to have as much effect.

 

[dgibbons]

Called it months ago. The travel cost is going to eat into costs, wear on the team for long travels, fan traveling. Teams should only be the Rockies and the west for the league. Nothing East of the Rockies say Pac. Would not be surprised if a few teams come crawling back

You clearly don’t understand the purple helmeted warriors need not worry about such things.

 

[dgibbons]

None of these schools care about the travel. They care about the money. Kids upset? Fck em. Get new kids. Don’t have time to study? Put tutors on the planes. They can pay them. Or the kids can pay kids to take their tests for them with their NIL $$$.

The only people whining about the travel are the fans of schools that got left out.

And the teams that are losing traveling coast to coast. But don’t let facts interrupt your rants.

 

[Coug90]

Mormon on Mormon hate. Odd. That's all I have to say about that.

Don’t they call that game the holy war? I don’t think there’s anything Mormon about UU other than it’s in SLC.

 

[Coug90]

None of these schools care about the travel. They care about the money. Kids upset? Fck em. Get new kids. Don’t have time to study? Put tutors on the planes. They can pay them. Or the kids can pay kids to take their tests for them with their NIL $$$.

The only people whining about the travel are the fans of schools that got left out.

Of course the kids don’t. And the schools don’t…yet. When they realize that performance suffers because multiple cross country flights has real physiological consequences and they are losing games because of it, they will certainly start to care. There’s a reason NFL teams will stay on the East coat or west coast for the week when they have back to back coast to coast trips.