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Rolo to be compliant, per Seattle Times

You're adorable! Let's review...You said this about Fauci and implied he should be fired:

"Not to mention funding the Wuhan lab and gain of function and trying to deny it"

I asked for "proof" since the one making the claim has the burden of proof. You linked to an analysis which did not provide any proof, just opinion from a Baric, Ebright, Chan and the communications director for Rand Paul. Also cited were a Perlman and Esvelt. Only Ebright is definitive in his position, the others are nuanced or are completely disputing what YOU believe and posted. Even Baric (cited by Paul as evidence during questioning of fauci) said:

Our work was approved by the NIH, was peer reviewed, and P3CO reviewed,” meaning reviewed under the HHS 2017 framework. “We followed all safety protocols, and our work was considered low risk because of the strain of coronaviruses being studied. It is because of our early work that the United States was in a position to quickly find the first successful treatment for SARS-CoV-2 and an effective COVID-19 vaccine.”

Also, under your scenario, who would/SHOULD be held accountable? The Obama administration paused funding for this kind of research in 2014. The trump administration (your boy) reinstated it in 2017.

So we wait for your "proof" that - as you claim, that "Fauci (should be fired for)...funding the wuhan lab and gain of function and trying to deny it".

Counselor, I would suggest you do not present exhibits that do not support your claims. That's all I have to say about that.

You’re conflating “proof” with NIH just admitting it. Since you have all day.



Also, don’t make things up, despite your predilection for doing so.
 
You’re conflating “proof” with NIH just admitting it. Since you have all day.



Also, don’t make things up, despite your predilection for doing so.
Did you read this one either? The whole article ends with this:

We wavered between 2 and 3 Pinocchio's " because there still are enough questions about the work at the Wuhan lab to warrant further scrutiny, even if the NIH connection to possible gain-of-function research appears so far to be elusive"

Did you get that: "connection...gain of function...elusive"

Again, do even know what position you are defending? You claim Fauci lied about the funding of gain of function that would have been purposed to deliberately create a virus that would be more transmissible and dangerous to humans. That's what Rand Paul was alleging. That's what you are positing. You apparently think it has been established as fact. It has not. You're so lazy, it's embarrassing.

These links you are providing are mainly dealing with the lab-creation theory and whether it is an open question to continue to investigate that angle. I know of no one reputable who say we should NOT look into that.

I can continue posting passages from this article as well if you need me too, since you cannot make the link between what you are arguing and the evidence required to support that argument. Taihtsat
 
Did you read this one either? The whole article ends with this:

We wavered between 2 and 3 Pinocchio's " because there still are enough questions about the work at the Wuhan lab to warrant further scrutiny, even if the NIH connection to possible gain-of-function research appears so far to be elusive"

Did you get that: "connection...gain of function...elusive"

Again, do even know what position you are defending? You claim Fauci lied about the funding of gain of function that would have been purposed to deliberately create a virus that would be more transmissible and dangerous to humans. That's what Rand Paul was alleging. That's what you are positing. You apparently think it has been established as fact. It has not. You're so lazy, it's embarrassing.

These links you are providing are mainly dealing with the lab-creation theory and whether it is an open question to continue to investigate that angle. I know of no one reputable who say we should NOT look into that.

I can continue posting passages from this article as well if you need me too, since you cannot make the link between what you are arguing and the evidence required to support that argument. Taihtsat

If the research paper stating that NIH provided funding doesn’t convince you, what will?
 
If the research paper stating that NIH provided funding doesn’t convince you, what will?
The article you cite as an admission from NIH says: “The NIH grant includes language that some say suggests gain-of-function research; NIH says that is a misinterpretation.” Read better.
 
The article you cite as an admission from NIH says: “The NIH grant includes language that some say suggests gain-of-function research; NIH says that is a misinterpretation.” Read better.

So, for you, it will take NIH admitting it was gain of function?
 
You're soooo Cute when you post "lol" after being called out on your ignorance to facts. Its like you do it due to the fact you're a progressive elitist who thinks they are morally and intellectually superior than everyone else. Its also because you're "informed" and by posting "lol", you know that your time in responding to such maniacal posts would just be wasted.
 
You're soooo Cute when you post "lol" after being called out on your ignorance to facts. Its like you do it due to the fact you're a progressive elitist who thinks they are morally and intellectually superior than everyone else. Its also because you're "informed" and by posting "lol", you know that your time in responding to such maniacal posts would just be wasted.
Says the guy who in another thread made factually unsupported claims, and when challenged to back up those claims, disappeared from the conversation. I see you. Taihtsat
 
You're soooo Cute when you post "lol" after being called out on your ignorance to facts. Its like you do it due to the fact you're a progressive elitist who thinks they are morally and intellectually superior than everyone else. Its also because you're "informed" and by posting "lol", you know that your time in responding to such maniacal posts would just be wasted.
Simply laughing at YOU again calling someone else stupid. The question was to clarify what DGib was claiming there is proof of funding specifically for. Because it is disputed, and the proof doesn’t appear to extend as far as he appears to be claiming.

And true It is easy to see it is a waste of time to respond to you in particular. You rarely provide any facts to support your mostly conspiracy theory claims you parrot from whatever conservative media you consume. You have little in way to offer of any substance and your main retort is nearly always some unsupported ad hominen that only serves to make yourself appear juvenile.
 


Comments from Ryan Leaf. I tend to agree. If Rolo has a medical or religious exemption, then just say that and say you don't wish to discuss it further. If he's going to get the vax, just say that. I don't understand this little cat and mouse game he seems to be playing. It comes off as dismissive.
 
Simply laughing at YOU again calling someone else stupid. The question was to clarify what DGib was claiming there is proof of funding specifically for. Because it is disputed, and the proof doesn’t appear to extend as far as he appears to be claiming.

And true It is easy to see it is a waste of time to respond to you in particular. You rarely provide any facts to support your mostly conspiracy theory claims you parrot from whatever conservative media you consume. You have little in way to offer of any substance and your main retort is nearly always some unsupported ad hominen that only serves to make yourself appear juvenile.
Nothing parroted, and what he claimed had already been stated in another post. The information is there to dispute that Fauci did in fact, via EcoHealth Alliance, fund the Wuhan Lab for gain of function research (as it is defined). Not to mention there were several doctors on record saying what the Wuhan lab was doing, was GAIN OF FUNCTION. A letter written by the lead research scientist/doctor was later produced, THANKING the NIH and Fauci cronies will absolutely come out and say "it wasn't gain of function" to protect their own. Is it really hard to believe that Fauci is trying to cover his own azz so that he doesn't look like he helped create the sh!tshow we are currently living in? I guess the lab leak theory was just a conservative talking point as well? "To question Dr Fauci is to question science itself"........ Your Demi-God is all knowing. Whatever dumb dumb
 
In response to things a stupid person posts on this message board.

Second time- If the research paper stating that NIH provided funding doesn’t convince you, what will?
Did that reserch paper specifically document factual, concrete evidence that funding for GOF was given to the WIV, you know...in China!?!?
 


Comments from Ryan Leaf. I tend to agree. If Rolo has a medical or religious exemption, then just say that and say you don't wish to discuss it further. If he's going to get the vax, just say that. I don't understand this little cat and mouse game he seems to be playing. It comes off as dismissive.
Ryan Leaf, like two minutes removed from his latest wife beating scandal or pill binge, is the last person who should be giving others life advice.
 
Ryan Leaf, like two minutes removed from his latest wife beating scandal or pill binge, is the last person who should be giving others life advice.

That is true to a point. But Truth, Fact, Logic, is Truth, Fact, Logic, no matter who says it, no matter if Ryan Leaf says it.
 
Ryan Leaf, like two minutes removed from his latest wife beating scandal or pill binge, is the last person who should be giving others life advice.
So if you are in rehab the only person you should speak to is someone who is an expert on the matter who was a patient themselves ?

I think the fact he has tons of life experiences and has been around the college game gives him perspective .
 


Comments from Ryan Leaf. I tend to agree. If Rolo has a medical or religious exemption, then just say that and say you don't wish to discuss it further. If he's going to get the vax, just say that. I don't understand this little cat and mouse game he seems to be playing. It comes off as dismissive.
because muh freedumbs!!!11!
 
So if you are in rehab the only person you should speak to is someone who is an expert on the matter who was a patient themselves ?

I think the fact he has tons of life experiences and has been around the college game gives him perspective .
Leaf also said this is one of the most talented WSU teams in years.

There is probably some old Leaf quotes in support of Steve Birnbaum taking over as QB in 1998, and sure enough Birnbaum won his first 3 games as starter.
 
So if you are in rehab the only person you should speak to is someone who is an expert on the matter who was a patient themselves ?

I think the fact he has tons of life experiences and has been around the college game gives him perspective .
Leaf should write a book about getting people to give you another chance. I'd buy that book. Listening to him talk about how to be a decent human being? I'll pass.
 
Simply laughing at YOU again calling someone else stupid. The question was to clarify what DGib was claiming there is proof of funding specifically for. Because it is disputed, and the proof doesn’t appear to extend as far as he appears to be claiming.

And true It is easy to see it is a waste of time to respond to you in particular. You rarely provide any facts to support your mostly conspiracy theory claims you parrot from whatever conservative media you consume. You have little in way to offer of any substance and your main retort is nearly always some unsupported ad hominen that only serves to make yourself appear juvenile.

Your question is quite dumb.
 


Comments from Ryan Leaf. I tend to agree. If Rolo has a medical or religious exemption, then just say that and say you don't wish to discuss it further. If he's going to get the vax, just say that. I don't understand this little cat and mouse game he seems to be playing. It comes off as dismissive.

Obviously, Ryan needs a job and wants to do the media and public speaking gigs. Hard to take him seriously as a moral authority.
 
Claims made by you without evidence can be rejected without evidence. Although, out of the goodness of my heart I've provided plenty anyway. Taihtsat

Still obfuscating. Third time- If the research paper stating that NIH provided funding doesn’t convince you, what will?
 
Still obfuscating. Third time- If the research paper stating that NIH provided funding doesn’t convince you, what will?
Again to you...where does this paper say they funded GOF in china? Should be real easy for you to find and produce.
 
Did that reserch paper specifically document factual, concrete evidence that funding for GOF was given to the WIV, you know...in China!?!?
Dgib... There is no convincing these morons of anything. They still believe Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.
 
Dgib... There is no convincing these morons of anything. They still believe Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.
Actually i don't believe that at all. Now, having dispensed with that little side- bar, care to take a crack at this NIH claim?
 
Dgib... There is no convincing these morons of anything. They still believe Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.

What if I believe that Trump tried to collude with Russia but failed because 1) they didn't have information worthwhile and 2) he was bumbling rube and wasn't smart enough to make use of anything that they had?

As mentioned by Krusty though, politics really shouldn't have anything to do with the discussion about getting the vaccination done but here we are anyway.
 
What if I believe that Trump tried to collude with Russia but failed because 1) they didn't have information worthwhile and 2) he was bumbling rube and wasn't smart enough to make use of anything that they had?

As mentioned by Krusty though, politics really shouldn't have anything to do with the discussion about getting the vaccination done but here we are anyway.
I wasn't involving politics... I was making a correlation involving one's ideology. Since you're so convinced that Trump attempted to, I guess we could group you in with my previous statement. Forget the fact that it was proven the DNC actually weaponized our corrupted FBI to help shape this narrative but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your feelings.
 
I wasn't involving politics... I was making a correlation involving one's ideology. Since you're so convinced that Trump attempted to, I guess we could group you in with my previous statement. Forget the fact that it was proven the DNC actually weaponized our corrupted FBI to help shape this narrative but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your feelings.

If you don't think that Donald Trump was extremely willing to collude, that says a lot about your naivete on the matter. As far as the DNC goes, they have plenty of skeletons in their closet. This may seem impossible, but you can hate Donald Trump and not like the Democrats at the same time.
 
I wasn't involving politics... I was making a correlation involving one's ideology. Since you're so convinced that Trump attempted to, I guess we could group you in with my previous statement. Forget the fact that it was proven the DNC actually weaponized our corrupted FBI to help shape this narrative but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your feelings.
Did Donald Jr meet with Russians? Did Trump lie and say no one from his inner circle ever met with the Russians? Did Don junior say August would be a great time to release information about Hillary? If Chelsea had done the same and there was written proof as there was in Don juniors case, I would have wanted Hillary impeached immediately.

The easiest answer could have been, former Pres Trump go to the FBI, tell them what his son had done, and gone out and said "my son is inexperienced in terms of politics and made a mistake by engaging a country that has 800 nukes pointed at us.
 
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