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Sure, but how does that relate to the article in your view seeing as how the main point was the increased evidence of anti-bodies through vaccination. That's all I have to say about that.
Patrol...I can think of something even more nauseating....one you make several assumptions. One, you assume you know what caricatures with names like Coug Patrol, CougEd, Biggs Coug and every other Coug name does in their personal life. You have zero idea what they have done for the greater good in their lives and community or haven't done. Second, you make the assumption wanting people to get vaxed is a selfless act, and people want it solely for the "greater good". If people take their cues from big business, they know the best way to have fewest business interruptions is to be vaxed. So one could be selfish and selfless in the same breath.
And third, it is embarrassing when the states highest employee who represents our school, which includes the medical college and college of sciences defies what the the science dicatates, and what the wishes of his employer are.
And no WSU will not get sued buy Rolo for disclosing his vax status. He will either take the jab or get pushed to the side. Same when I went to kindergarten. No one told anyone I was vaxed, but me attending class said I was. Same for my kids and their schooling and their sporting events.
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What’s “morally superior” about calling out someone who knows nothjng about any of the posters… sure I know some poster who seem like internet a holes, but I have no idea what they are like in their real life.
Weird no Wulff remark . It’s only been ten years ago… back in the old days when I had a Toyota’s Sienna family van. Seems like years ago.
The article about blood donations is interesting, but I doubt it’s representative of the population. I suspect if it was studied, they’d find a high correlation between those who donate blood and those who are willing to be vaccinated.
Testing for antibodies seems like a dodge to me. Doctors (at least locally) don’t really want to talk about COVID vaccines because of the politics. They don’t want to accidentally lose patients by expressing the wrong opinion. Having people get an antibody test and then making a recommendation gives them an alternative, or a back door into the conversation they don’t want to take head-on. But as a real solution, it doesn’t work. Are they going to recommend antibody tests every year? Every six months? Are they going to start doing antibody tests for flu, measles, and polio too? Seems to me that it makes more sense to just get the shot.
My comment about virtue signaling was directed at people who I know personally, and also generally at the entirety of the US population who argue that it’s a moral obligation.
I’m fully vaxed, as are my kids. I believe in vaccinations, particularly mRNA methodology. That’s where I stand on the issue. I also believe strongly in health, exercise, nutrition, my carbon footprint, etc. If I had it my way, we would tax condemn the obese, chain smoking, fast food abusing lard asses who are the poster children for preventable underlying/pre-existing medical conditions in the USA. We hear so much about the 1% controlling the global economy, but talk so little about how Americans consume between 100-1000% more food and resources individually than we need. Now we need everyone to come together for the greater good. LOL, guess what? That flies in the face of everything we’ve evolved to become as industrialized Westerners. Our politicians, our Universities, and our media outlets have done nothing but agenda divide, and now we’re living the consequence.
But those are simply my opinions. In the case of COVID, I understand why some people aren’t on board with getting vaxed. It’s been a whirlwind pandemic in the midst of one of the greatest social/political divides in our lifetimes. Half the Nation on the losing side of the election were suddenly told by the side they can’t stand and aren’t aligned with at all that they HAVE TO get the vaccination.
I guess I’m just not as rigid with my beliefs and my standing as a single person on this earth as most people are. I’m generally pro-choice across the board on all issues. This is a tough one because of my understanding of medical technologies and treatments, but again, I understand that not everyone was brought up like I was.
Most of it. Then I skipped the Newsweek interpretation and read the study myself.
It's from analysis of voluntary blood donations, which automatically skews it toward a certain segment of the population - largely older people. The samples were collected from geographic areas that collectively encompass 74% of the US population... that doesn't mean it represents 74%. I said that it seems likely that vax rates among blood donors are higher than the general population, and the study includes that in its limitations statement. The study also admits outright that the demographic profile of the samples tested does not match the population, and that populations with comparatively high vax rates (non-Hispanic whites, specifically) are overrepresented.
It's far less definitive than the newsweek article makes it out to be. Here is the entire conclusion of the study:
"Based on a sample of blood donations in the US from July 2020 through May 2021, vaccine- and infection-induced SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence increased over time and varied by age, race and ethnicity, and geographic region. Despite weighting to adjust for demographic differences, these findings from a national sample of blood donors may not be representative of the entire US population."
So yes...it's an interesting snapshot study, but the reported percentages are not reliable due to severe limitations of the sampling protocol. But it wouldn't draw many clicks if the headline just said "infections and vaccinations make antibody prevalence increase over time," which is about the only definitive conclusion this study supports.
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