SC stinks
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SC has been rudderless since Carroll. They averaged 11 wins a season under Pete, and have averaged 8.8 after.
If they string together a couple more underwhelming seasons, it will quickly have become the place top talent goes to die. Outside of perhaps Georgia, it's hard to imagine a school accomplishing less with more talent in that period.
Another team which stinks is Boise State ,They have dropped games to New Mexico and the AFA on successive weekends. The power is indeed shifting in college football. One wonders if the cougs success has much to do with the abrupt falling of Boise State USC ,i can understand the loss of their coach But Boise State?
I have been going back and forth between Oregon/USC and UCLA/Utah. USC's defense today is horrible. People are going to say how well Adams is playing and he is. But, on most of his throws, there is no one within 5 yards (and sometimes 10) of Oregon's receivers.
I thought that's what Oregon does; get guys in space. Add to that the amount of scrambling Davis is doing... defenders stop covering when they see him moving around and receivers are alone on an island.
This is different. If it weren't, then it would not matter who was their QB. Any QB can throw when you don't have to worry about a defender.
Could be the Doba complex. Doba inherited a pretty good roster/scheme and won 10 games his first year out, only to drop below 0.500 in his 2nd year and never recover.
Petersen is eerily similar - he left BSU less than 2 years ago and things seem to be falling apart there. If the dropoff is not as dramatic as it was with Doba at the helm, consider that BSU today is still arguably a bunch of P12-caliber players playing in a terrible conference in the MWC.
I'm not following, partner. You said receivers are wide open. I said they traditionally scheme space well AND coverage breaks down when he scrambles. Now you're saying it's a pressure issue rather than a "DBs are AWOL" issue?
Even if Price had stayed, WSU was in for a fall in 2004. 2003 was a very senior dominated team. Doba began to build it up again, but his high was 6-6 instead of a 9-3. Perhaps if he was not dealing with his wife's cancer, he would have been able to manage his staff better. But, that is something we will never know.
Not sure if things are falling apart at BSU. They have the best facilities in the MWC with the new football complex they just built. I think the days of continual double digit wins are over though.
There is open by a yard. There is open by 5 to 10 yards. Anyone can QB when there are receivers that are open by 5 to 10 yards.
For example, the Air Raid also gets guys in space. But, you do not see receivers on every play open by 5 to 10 yards.
Gotcha. I think that's fair. My point is not so much that it's excusable to have guys open by 10-15 yards - it's simply that Oregon has specialized in that, and I can no longer count how many Oregon highlight reels I've seen where you literally cannot see a defender anywhere when the receiver catches the ball. Few teams have done better getting completely uncontested receptions.
I agree with that. Breakdowns happen a few times in every game for all teams. Oregon is especially good at taking advantage of the times when that happens. They just punish teams because their players have elite speed at the skill positions. In this game, USC is breaking down on every play.
We are actually seeing that a little more with the Cougars as well. Our skill players just don't have elite speed. They are fast, but not elite. I would really love to see WSU have a receiver with sprinters speed.
Oregon tops USC 48-28. USC didn't show up. I think Helton lost his chance at the job.
UCLA beat Utah in a stinker 17-9. Travis Wilson was 13-29 for 110 yards with no TD's. Utah may be in trouble without Booker next season. He is out for the season and we saw what they may look like without him. (By the way, UCLA lost their LT for a time in the game. They did not just bring up a backup LT from the bench. They shuffled their lineman and brought in a RG from the bench. I guess UCLA doesn't have depth either by ED's thinking)
ASU is up against Arizona 38-30 with a little less than 7 minutes left. ASU will be bowl eligible if they hold on to the lead.
The uw is up 21-0 against OSU.
UCLA beat Utah in a stinker 17-9. Travis Wilson was 13-29 for 110 yards with no TD's. Utah may be in trouble without Booker next season. He is out for the season and we saw what they may look like without him. (By the way, UCLA lost their LT for a time in the game. They did not just bring up a backup LT from the bench. They shuffled their lineman and brought in a RG from the bench. I guess UCLA doesn't have depth either by ED's thinking)
ASU is up against Arizona 38-30 with a little less than 7 minutes left. ASU will be bowl eligible if they hold on to the lead.
The uw is up 21-0 against OSU.
dammit.
Apple Cup is going to be a fight. Was hoping for a blowout. Their O is showing life, which is what I was hoping wouldn't happen before this season ended.
I'm still not too worried about their O. Looking at how they do vs. a lifeless OSU team - the worst in the conference - is misleading.
They will run on us for sure, but we move the chains and keep scoring every game this year.
The game-deciding question is how their D looks against the Air Raid. If we can't get YAC, and if the refs let them grab and hold and hit Luke and our receivers, I don't like our chances. Otherwise, I like a competitive game. Hope our guys want to turn the screws just as badly as they do.
The uw showed signs of life and beat Arizona 49-3. They followed up that outstanding offensive and defensive game by losing to Utah by 11 and ASU by 10.
What you saw on Saturday had about 10% due to Oregon, and about 90% due to SC's lack of a secondary. The opposing teams' receivers have been open like that all year
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