Sounds like Larue got booted from the team
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I am not sure the kid ever bought in. Transfers from other schools
seem like as a group tend to struggle. I was fairly confident when Larue had to sit out he was not going to make it. He did last longer than I thought he would.
It is surprising that they struggle so much in the secondary. The oline has always been problematic as well as the dline. We use to be DBU, and now we struggle at what would be considered the easiest position to transition in from high school. An interesting turn of events;.
seem like as a group tend to struggle. I was fairly confident when Larue had to sit out he was not going to make it. He did last longer than I thought he would.
It is surprising that they struggle so much in the secondary. The oline has always been problematic as well as the dline. We use to be DBU, and now we struggle at what would be considered the easiest position to transition in from high school. An interesting turn of events;.
Sorry it didn't work out for him, but I didn't have him in the 2 deeps for D Backs. I thought he would end up back at WR. I still see it like this for our opening game.
BCB Marcellus Pippins , Treshon Broughton, Pat Porter
FCB Charleston White , Jeff Farrar, Willie Roach
FS Sulaiman Hameed, Taylor Taliulu, Kameron Powell
SS Shalom Luani, Darius Lemora, Issac Dotson
BCB Marcellus Pippins , Treshon Broughton, Pat Porter
FCB Charleston White , Jeff Farrar, Willie Roach
FS Sulaiman Hameed, Taylor Taliulu, Kameron Powell
SS Shalom Luani, Darius Lemora, Issac Dotson
While I respect and approve of CML's policy to not talk about this, I'd sure love to know what the he!! happened. I see it was due to an infraction of team rules. Wonder if that means one of his cardinal rules or something else... We'll never know what happened but I hope it works out for the best for Mr. LaRue.
Well we have a linebacker with a rugby background...
I wonder if the kid left because of funds or no scholie? Does he go somewhere else smaller and get put on scholarship? Or is it they don't value his work or think there are better options?
This post was edited on 3/25 5:05 PM by CougEd
I wonder if the kid left because of funds or no scholie? Does he go somewhere else smaller and get put on scholarship? Or is it they don't value his work or think there are better options?
This post was edited on 3/25 5:05 PM by CougEd
Re: Well we have a linebacker with a rugby background...
Assume he would have to pay his own way for another year.
Assume he would have to pay his own way for another year.
Re: Well we have a linebacker with a rugby background...
To be clear, the "kid" here that you're referencing is Dascalo, not LaRue. Very curious to get the story on him. He did a nice job last year.
To be clear, the "kid" here that you're referencing is Dascalo, not LaRue. Very curious to get the story on him. He did a nice job last year.
This post was edited on 3/25 7:35 PM by 425cougfan
Cute
Though I'm actually more worried about who our punter is going to be
This post was edited on 3/25 10:33 PM by random soul
Though I'm actually more worried about who our punter is going to be
This post was edited on 3/25 10:33 PM by random soul
Re: Cute
They signed this kid from Boise as a preferred walk on, supposed to have a big leg.
new punter
They signed this kid from Boise as a preferred walk on, supposed to have a big leg.
new punter
Sounds like LaRue is going to have to learn to live with consequences. Tough lesson to learn sometimes.
As for Dascalo, does anybody know if he is Mormon? Is it mission time? Or perhaps he decided to drop football if he didn't get a scholarship guarantee. If not Mormon, I have to think that he thought his starting spot was in danger that would certainly get in the way of getting a scholarship, and would also mean no guaranteed playing time. Tough to understand leaving otherwise.
There are other punters in camp, though none with PAC experience. Dascalo would certainly be aware of them, and has probably seen them kicking, at least informally. And there is always video of high school games.
If Dascalo left the team by his own choice, I would expect the answer to at least partly relate to some of the above items.
As for Dascalo, does anybody know if he is Mormon? Is it mission time? Or perhaps he decided to drop football if he didn't get a scholarship guarantee. If not Mormon, I have to think that he thought his starting spot was in danger that would certainly get in the way of getting a scholarship, and would also mean no guaranteed playing time. Tough to understand leaving otherwise.
There are other punters in camp, though none with PAC experience. Dascalo would certainly be aware of them, and has probably seen them kicking, at least informally. And there is always video of high school games.
If Dascalo left the team by his own choice, I would expect the answer to at least partly relate to some of the above items.
Re: Cute
Just when you think that special teams cannot get any worse, they get worse. I enjoy following Cougar football but it is starting to worry me regarding my personality. Am I a hardened veteran or just a weasely little masochist?
The departure of Dascalo and LaRue is certainly concerning. LaRue looked to me to have the most natural athletic ability of any of the young DBs at last year's Spring game. Dascalo was a pleasant addition especially after Bowlin's tendency to shank a punt every game. No idea why Dascalo left the program. I thought that LaRue had settled in after a few bouts of buyer's remorse. Have heard rumbling about a recent arrest and a previous issue. Sorry to see them leave as Dascalo gave us some solidity at the punting aspect of special teams and I had LaRue mentally pegged in at CB as a promising reserve if not starter.
Looking at the Boise kid's film I was rather impressed. These showed the "highlights", of course, but he seems to have a good leg. Also demonstrated the ability to handle some pretty poor snaps and perform well under pressure. It seemed that half his kicks came with a defensive back breathing down his neck.
Luvu has been mentioned as a possibility at punting and I am sure that there are others. Tago, the new recruit from A.S., also seems a decent punter although I seriously doubt that the staff would scrap his red shirt year for this reason. Maybe, 2016.
Hopefully, the staff has a plan for this. In the meantime we will just have to sit back with our titanium cojones or perversions, whatever the case may be, and see how it all plays out.
This post was edited on 3/26 11:59 PM by kayak15
Just when you think that special teams cannot get any worse, they get worse. I enjoy following Cougar football but it is starting to worry me regarding my personality. Am I a hardened veteran or just a weasely little masochist?
The departure of Dascalo and LaRue is certainly concerning. LaRue looked to me to have the most natural athletic ability of any of the young DBs at last year's Spring game. Dascalo was a pleasant addition especially after Bowlin's tendency to shank a punt every game. No idea why Dascalo left the program. I thought that LaRue had settled in after a few bouts of buyer's remorse. Have heard rumbling about a recent arrest and a previous issue. Sorry to see them leave as Dascalo gave us some solidity at the punting aspect of special teams and I had LaRue mentally pegged in at CB as a promising reserve if not starter.
Looking at the Boise kid's film I was rather impressed. These showed the "highlights", of course, but he seems to have a good leg. Also demonstrated the ability to handle some pretty poor snaps and perform well under pressure. It seemed that half his kicks came with a defensive back breathing down his neck.
Luvu has been mentioned as a possibility at punting and I am sure that there are others. Tago, the new recruit from A.S., also seems a decent punter although I seriously doubt that the staff would scrap his red shirt year for this reason. Maybe, 2016.
Hopefully, the staff has a plan for this. In the meantime we will just have to sit back with our titanium cojones or perversions, whatever the case may be, and see how it all plays out.
This post was edited on 3/26 11:59 PM by kayak15
Now Dascalo was OK last year, but lets not act like we are losing some sort of Kyle Basler type guy. He had some horrid punts, including ones where he'd kick a line drive with a 2.0 second hang time and it would get returned for a TD with ease. Not much of a loss we have about 4 guys who will compete this spring
Played my share of football in the day but never college. Never punted. Probably could. If I have to run more than 10-15 yards though, I'm in trouble. I guess I'm in!!!!!
My guess is LaRue's departure had something to do academic or continually missing team commitments (weights, meetings, etc.).
I hate to say this, we aren't good enough talent wise where we can play the "tough love" card. I'm generally fine with booting guys for legal issues, but on other issues, I'm fine with other means of punishment rather than team departure (should be last resort)
I hate to say this, we aren't good enough talent wise where we can play the "tough love" card. I'm generally fine with booting guys for legal issues, but on other issues, I'm fine with other means of punishment rather than team departure (should be last resort)
I do not agree. You have to have a consistent team culture. If you give in and not have set rules, then the players will push and push and set back what you are trying to accomplish. It sets the long term culture back for a short term gain.
The point is what's the punishment? If you miss class, you are up at 3am sprinting up the stairs. If you do it again, we up the "pain" level of the punishment.
It's not saying there are no consequences. This sets culture.
I'm suggesting -- and i have no way of knowing -- if you don't break the law, don't break one of the cardinal rules, you are going to get some in house "discpline" until you get it right. Just like the military.
It's not saying there are no consequences. This sets culture.
I'm suggesting -- and i have no way of knowing -- if you don't break the law, don't break one of the cardinal rules, you are going to get some in house "discpline" until you get it right. Just like the military.
First, do we know why Larue was dismissed from the team? It is up to each leader to set his own standards. Leach has his standards and adheres to them. I just do not agree that he should think, "Our talent level is down, so I should just pick and chose what rules and standards to use." I believe that he has been and is consistent. You do not want to set bad precedents.
This is what I believe. You believe differently, that is fine too.
Re: A pretty good guess is he got booted for the same reason Brown
One rumor was marijuana...which now, from a legal perspective, is the same as booze.
I personally don't think the rules should be different from booze vs. dope, now that it's legal.
Leach has his rules, so be it.
One rumor was marijuana...which now, from a legal perspective, is the same as booze.
I personally don't think the rules should be different from booze vs. dope, now that it's legal.
Leach has his rules, so be it.
Dismissal from the team is the ultimate penalty that the coach can impose, and it's not administered willy nilly. I think Thorpe worded his blog entry poorly, the two recent traffic infractions were likely not the reason Larue was dismissed. But he could have committed one of the cardinal sins, and just not have been arrested or not arrested yet for it. I suspect there were good and plentiful reasons for his dismissal.
And I agree with 1990- you make exceptions and you have guys like Mizell not even trying in practice. And I have a hard time believing that Larue was some kind of transcendent talent that warranted more patience.
Re: A pretty good guess is he got booted for the same reason Brown
I don't smoke anything at all. But, I do drink from time to time. I voted yes to legalize pot. I have no problem with people that do. Still, if you know the rules, you follow them.
This post was edited on 3/27 8:43 PM by Coug1990
I agree. If you know the rules....
I don't smoke anything at all. But, I do drink from time to time. I voted yes to legalize pot. I have no problem with people that do. Still, if you know the rules, you follow them.
This post was edited on 3/27 8:43 PM by Coug1990
Re: A pretty good guess is he got booted for the same reason Brown
I'm with you 1990....don't smoke anything. Not even salmon (weak humor, sorry). But no problem with those that do, as long as they aren't flying my airplane, or driving, etc. I voted to legalize the stuff because I think police resources are better spent elsewhere, not chasing down recreational users.
But team rules have to be consistently applied to have any sort of meaning. To suggest that rules should be bent because we need the talent is to ask for the inmates to run the asylum. Especially if some random squad member has to get the boot and some star level player skates, or gets off by running some stairs.
It's not that tough when the rules are well known ahead of time. Leach has commented on not wanting players who will put themselves ahead of the team. If a player is fully aware of the rules and breaks them anyway, he certainly isn't thinking "team".
And I am sure there are other things that will get a guy in trouble, if repeated over and over again - missing meetings, missing training/lifting sessions, ignoring classes/grades. Guys are getting school paid for and a chance to play a game they love at the highest collegiate level, yet some of them can't/won't meet minimum standards of behavior.
You don't have to agree with the rules and standards but you better pay attention to them......
I'm with you 1990....don't smoke anything. Not even salmon (weak humor, sorry). But no problem with those that do, as long as they aren't flying my airplane, or driving, etc. I voted to legalize the stuff because I think police resources are better spent elsewhere, not chasing down recreational users.
But team rules have to be consistently applied to have any sort of meaning. To suggest that rules should be bent because we need the talent is to ask for the inmates to run the asylum. Especially if some random squad member has to get the boot and some star level player skates, or gets off by running some stairs.
It's not that tough when the rules are well known ahead of time. Leach has commented on not wanting players who will put themselves ahead of the team. If a player is fully aware of the rules and breaks them anyway, he certainly isn't thinking "team".
And I am sure there are other things that will get a guy in trouble, if repeated over and over again - missing meetings, missing training/lifting sessions, ignoring classes/grades. Guys are getting school paid for and a chance to play a game they love at the highest collegiate level, yet some of them can't/won't meet minimum standards of behavior.
You don't have to agree with the rules and standards but you better pay attention to them......
Problem with the Mary Jane from an athletic perspective is that it makes you lazy and lowers testosterone levels.
I don't know many who have improved their game in the off season by hitting the bong.
One is more likely to order up some pizza pipeline(with Cajun of course) than hit the weights or work on their free throws
I don't know many who have improved their game in the off season by hitting the bong.
One is more likely to order up some pizza pipeline(with Cajun of course) than hit the weights or work on their free throws
I'll give a confession and admit that when I did pot,,,I'd easily wake the next day (usually a couple of times per week in my 20's) feeling as though I need to clean or having more patience to organize something I've put off for awhile. In contrast, if I got drunk...I'd sleep in, put off many things I was supposed to get done that day and that included working out with weights-jogging, etc.
Re: A pretty good guess is he got booted for the same reason Brown
A coach cannot cheat his own principals, especially for a talented player.
You and I are in 100% agreement in everything you wrote, including the police resources are better spent elsewhere. There is a story about Pete Carroll when he first took over the Seahawks and the first team meeting. He gave his opening speech in front of the players. He then asks every player to change seats to get to know other players. Every player but one changed seats. That player (Carroll never said who it was, but we think it is Deon Grant) was waived a few days later. It wasn't an exercise in getting to know other players like Carroll said. It was actually an exercise in seeing which players could follow something new and buy in to what Pete was saying.
A coach cannot cheat his own principals, especially for a talented player.
It always makes me wonder about how much the legalization has affected the mindset of the athletes. They know it is no longer against the law, so does their buy in on the three rules drop? I think it should remain the way it is. I am confident we can find enough quality individuals who can follow the rules.
I'd make that rule alcohol....because if you're drinking alcohol at 20 like those who drink at 50......you're feeling way too sorry for your self and need to hang around the pot smokers who simply want to have fun listening to music .... then get something done the next day.
I was at WSU when the Idaho drinking age was 19 and WSU was a wet (very wet) campus. I knew many people with substance abuse issues from each of the common sources: alcohol and pot. Usually one or the other, though occasionally both. There were a few with harder drug problems, but they were fewer and farther between.
Just my observation, but far more of the ones who didn't get things done the next day (and tended to put stuff off in general) were in the pot group than the alcohol group but there were certainly star examples in both groups.
As has been discussed many times on this board, a lot of people feel that they can do pot and it has no adverse effect on them. I'm not in a position to question that, and I can think of several people who ended up with advanced degrees from my time at WSU who were in the pot group. But unfortunately, I also knew a lot of people on the other end of that spectrum. Maybe some day we'll really understand the genetic factors that seem to be so big in explaining why the effects vary so widely within our population.
Just my observation, but far more of the ones who didn't get things done the next day (and tended to put stuff off in general) were in the pot group than the alcohol group but there were certainly star examples in both groups.
As has been discussed many times on this board, a lot of people feel that they can do pot and it has no adverse effect on them. I'm not in a position to question that, and I can think of several people who ended up with advanced degrees from my time at WSU who were in the pot group. But unfortunately, I also knew a lot of people on the other end of that spectrum. Maybe some day we'll really understand the genetic factors that seem to be so big in explaining why the effects vary so widely within our population.
First off, let me say I'm not trying to be some ninny. I used to partake. But I wasn't an elite athlete. And admittedly, I have a rebel streak so I was gonna try it, regardless. It was fun. Few years of it. Quit.
But isn't the above portion of this thread ignoring the basic concept of smoking... anything? It's smoke Going into lungs. It's going to crust up your lungs and make it harder to breath. It makes a fast person go a little slower or not have the same stamina. It makes hard lung work, like football or just running, harder. I don't give a rip about the mental "affects" of it but I will say, I have a friend that has told me point-blank, he can't start a day without a bowl. "It just doesn't feel right". He's also dumber than a box of rock after 25 to 30 years of it. To each their own. His choice.
But the health aspects below the neck I just don't get this whole, "healthier than" or just plain not talking about it. Like it's the buzz that everyone was concerned about during all those lawsuits against the tobacco industry 10 or 15 years ago. Remember those pictures of lungs of smokers? Like that's going to be different with pot? Eventually, we're going to find a different kind of cancer that pot seems to metastasize or grow, gives tendency to, whatever.
If I was a coach and I found out after LOI that a player was a smoker, of any kind, I'd bench him quicker than I can say, "bye bye". Tobacco or weed, they're gonna affect the lungs the same way. Finding this out would be a part of my recruiting, I guess. A little winded, not quite as fast, you ARE bringing the team down and all for a little buzz? Nah. Opitome of selfish. Not being judgy or weird, just don't get the blinders on the health side of this whole thing and the physical affects smoke has on anyones lungs.
Now get into those e-cigs or vapor or oil thingies, and that just muddies the water a bit more on this.
