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Tinae to UW, Alexander crystalled to ASU

Fryer also verballed to Arizona yesterday. WSU is not doing well regarding the top prospects.
 
This is a tough year to be a new HC. Rolo and staff could face some challenges building relationships. They are late to the party. Kids could be making “safe” choices. These kids have been talking with staffs for 2-3 years. Rolo just showed up.

I could see this class being decent but little star power. The following year could be much better as they have had the time to build relationships with kids.
 
ROLO read this Play just like he wants his QB to read the secondary with his adjuster In motion.

This isn’t coaches 1st recruiting rodeo. Didn’t cave & read his keys!
 
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This is a tough year to be a new HC. Rolo and staff could face some challenges building relationships. They are late to the party. Kids could be making “safe” choices. These kids have been talking with staffs for 2-3 years. Rolo just showed up.

I could see this class being decent but little star power. The following year could be much better as they have had the time to build relationships with kids.

ON THE CLASS AS A WHOLE: "It's a class that has good grades. The character is pretty solid. We'll find out more about that as we go along, but we feel pretty good about these guys. From a talent standpoint, a lot of these guys are developmental type guys. They need the weight room, but their upside is pretty good. They just need to get in the weight room and start developing, and we need to give them time. The only way you can get a mature football team is by bringing in young men and letting them grow up and giving them the time they need to do that. All of a sudden, you have a mature football team. That's something we don't have right now, but it's something we're going to try to get to as quickly as we can."
 
ON THE CLASS AS A WHOLE: "It's a class that has good grades. The character is pretty solid. We'll find out more about that as we go along, but we feel pretty good about these guys. From a talent standpoint, a lot of these guys are developmental type guys. They need the weight room, but their upside is pretty good. They just need to get in the weight room and start developing, and we need to give them time. The only way you can get a mature football team is by bringing in young men and letting them grow up and giving them the time they need to do that. All of a sudden, you have a mature football team. That's something we don't have right now, but it's something we're going to try to get to as quickly as we can."

Where is this quote from?

The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.

We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.
 
Where is this quote from?

The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.

We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.

ON ADDRESSING IMMEDIATE NEEDS: "Our most critical needs were in our defensive line and in our secondary. Right now we filled those holes reasonably well. We have some young talented defensive backs that are going to need to grow up but have a lot of potential. On our defensive line, we signed a few more junior college kids than we normally would, but for this one year we may redshirt one or two of them to give them some age and maturity but we also probably need to play a couple. A couple of young high school defensive lineman will have the opportunity to really develop down the road. That's how we're going to be best: when we get young, athletic kids and let them grow up and mature. You're then going to see a higher quality down the road."
 
ROLO read this Play just like he wants his QB to read the secondary with his adjuster In motion.

This isn’t coaches 1st recruiting rodeo. Didn’t cave & read his keys!

BS. ALL THE CREDIBLE SOURCES IN THE WORLD: Players, COACHES, friends, family, the recruits, EXPERTS(Such as Brandon Huffman), SHUMPERT'S 7 ON 7 ELITE CAMP ALL STAR COACH, ETC, have either SAID, SHOWN, ETC, that AT LEAST Alexander, and probably all 3 would goto WSU, if SHUMPERT was OFFERED, committed, went to WSU, and that SHUMPERT was a LOCK to go to WSU if offered.

Rolo not offering SHUMPERT, IS NOT ROLO making a SUPPOSED READ that supposedly offering Shumpert would NOT land Alexander, etc.

Tinae going to UW, and Alexander likely going to ASU, isnt them indicating that they would goto WSU if WSU/Rolo offers Shumpert, and then them changing their mind, leaving Rolo, Shumpert hanging, and then Rolo reading that, and not offering Shumpert.

Probably the ONLY reason Alexander isnt going to WSU, and going to ASU instead, IS BECAUSE ROLO DID NOT OFFER Shumpert. And so Alexander is probably like, "Well if Rolo, WSU, wont offer Shumpert, I'll goto ASU then".

WSU, Rolo was doing the best job of recruiting Alexander. All the indicators was that he might goto WSU, even if Shumpert wasnt offered.

The ASU did one hell of a job recruiting him. And it probably became neck and neck close between WSU, and ASU.

If Rolo, WSU, had offered Shumpert, then that probably would have broken the neck and neck situation, and gotten Alexander to WSU, since ALEXANDER TELL THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY AT THE SAME PLACE AS SHUMPERT. AND ALEXANDER POSTED PICS OF ALEXANDER, SHUMPERT, TINAE, IN COUGAR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS, WITH THE TWEET THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER ATTACHED TO THE PIC.

Also Alexander/Shumpert went to COLLEGE GAMEDAY WSU, and watched WSU beat Oregon, and they CELEBRATED, and they STORMED THE FIELD and continued celebrating.

YOU DONT DO ALL THOSE THINGS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO GOTO WSU, IF SHUMPERT IS OFFERED by WSU, Rolo, and NOT goto WSU, IF SHUMPERT is offered.

Rolo blew it.

Not a read by Rolo.

That is BS from you.
 
BS. ALL THE CREDIBLE SOURCES IN THE WORLD: Players, COACHES, friends, family, the recruits, EXPERTS(Such as Brandon Huffman), SHUMPERT'S 7 ON 7 ELITE CAMP ALL STAR COACH, ETC, have either SAID, SHOWN, ETC, that AT LEAST Alexander, and probably all 3 would goto WSU, if SHUMPERT was OFFERED, committed, went to WSU, and that SHUMPERT was a LOCK to go to WSU if offered.

Rolo not offering SHUMPERT, IS NOT ROLO making a SUPPOSED READ that supposedly offering Shumpert would NOT land Alexander, etc.

Tinae going to UW, and Alexander likely going to ASU, isnt them indicating that they would goto WSU if WSU/Rolo offers Shumpert, and then them changing their mind, leaving Rolo, Shumpert hanging, and then Rolo reading that, and not offering Shumpert.

Probably the ONLY reason Alexander isnt going to WSU, and going to ASU instead, IS BECAUSE ROLO DID NOT OFFER Shumpert. And so Alexander is probably like, "Well if Rolo, WSU, wont offer Shumpert, I'll goto ASU then".

WSU, Rolo was doing the best job of recruiting Alexander. All the indicators was that he might goto WSU, even if Shumpert wasnt offered.

The ASU did one hell of a job recruiting him. And it probably became neck and neck close between WSU, and ASU.

If Rolo, WSU, had offered Shumpert, then that probably would have broken the neck and neck situation, and gotten Alexander to WSU, since ALEXANDER TELL THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY AT THE SAME PLACE AS SHUMPERT. AND ALEXANDER POSTED PICS OF ALEXANDER, SHUMPERT, TINAE, IN COUGAR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS, WITH THE TWEET THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER ATTACHED TO THE PIC.

Also Alexander/Shumpert went to COLLEGE GAMEDAY WSU, and watched WSU beat Oregon, and they CELEBRATED, and they STORMED THE FIELD and continued celebrating.

YOU DONT DO ALL THOSE THINGS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO GOTO WSU, IF SHUMPERT IS OFFERED by WSU, Rolo, and NOT goto WSU, IF SHUMPERT is offered.

Rolo blew it.

Not a read by Rolo.

That is BS from you.
I feel like this posts needs more CAPS in order to truly maximize its potential
 
Where is this quote from?

The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.

We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.

THIS^^^^^^^^

Despite Rolo blowing the getting of at least Alexander by not offering 3 star Shumpert, and then offering, getting 2 star/NR, lowest ended 3 stars, Big Sky, Mountain West, beating out Div 2 colleges, etc:

Rolo was, is pretty much wasting his time, trying to recruit the top 10 to top 15 to top 20 in such a banner year for the state.

You would think that if Rolo did what he should, that he shoukd be able to get at least 1 player out of the top 10 to top 15 to top 20.

That none of the top 25 players in WA in such a BANNER year, didnt accept offers, didnt commit to WSU, SPEAKS VOLUMES.

What Etown said is correct. They are BRAINWASHED, PROGRAMMED against WSU, for none of the top 20 to goto WSU.

And the coaches, and the Tracy Ford's, Politicians, etc, just want to either pawn off their whitworth college level players to WSU, etc, and so that's why they keep on BS saying that Leach, Rolo, WSU needs to recruit WA.

It is PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME.

And since they didnt PUT UP, THEN STFU to them.

Rolo hopefully has learned that recruiting WA is a waste of time, and that WSU recruiting WA leads to Paul Wulf years.

Fortunately for both Rolo, and WSU, WSU is deep enough on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball that WSU, Rolo can probably afford to PUNT the OFFENSIVE side of 1 recruiting class.

The defense may continue to suck for 1,2 more years, but even 1 bad 1st year recruiting class, there is still time for Rolo to have a good 2nd recruiting class, turn around the defense, etc.

So Rolo, WSU probably goes 5-7,6-6,7-5, this season(if they have a season)despite this bad class, and 6-6,7-5 next season after that, and 7-5,8-4, after that, and 8-4, 9-3, after that.

And if the season is canceled, that might help buy some time for WSU to catch up, and for WSU's players to develop, mature, hopefully get better.
 
Where is this quote from?

The one positive this year is Rolo got to learn how recruiting the state is a total waste of time. He's about to go 0-10 on the states top 10 prospects in a banner year. This after putting in the necessary work to land kids. I can say calls for WSU to put in more effort into the state are just local coaches trying to build their reps on getting their kids one more offer. Or that they try to push Big Sky talent on a P5 school so they can brag about how many kids they've put into the PAC. This year proves it.

We have kids committing out of state sight unseen during a pandemic. Fact is the programing in state tells these kids going to WSU means they weren't good enough for a top offer.

Agree. Make one pass thru the PNW. Whoever is interested, stay on them. Otherwise, be on the next flight to SoCal.
 
Despite Rolo blowing the getting of at least Alexander by not offering 3 star Shumpert, and then offering, getting 2 star/NR, lowest ended 3 stars, Big Sky, Mountain West, beating out Div 2 colleges.

Oh the F’n IRONY

His Current Offer list:

Georgetown 1-AA
Idaho St 1-AA
Montana 1-AA
San Diego 1-AA
Bucknell 1-AA
Army
Air Force
 
If Alexander and Tinae would have 100% come to WSU but only IF Rolo offered SHUmPERt, then neither wanted to go to WSU. More power to them. Rolo didn’t blow anything. If they wanted to be together so badly, why didn’t Tinae and Alexander end up in the same spot at least?
 
WSU has a brand issue. If the in state kids don't want to come it is a referendum on the school experience and football program. They aren't into it. Fine. Go on down the road and find kids that are.

It is interesting that kids will commit to WSU sight unseen and in state kids won't even visit. Imo, it starts with beating the uw. Also it's the money. Schools that shell out millions and build themselves into a 4 star school get 4 star kids. Schools that are frugal or spend wisely, well, they get 3 star kids.

Choosing a school for these high end kids isn't about college majors or scheme. That's all BS. They're looking for social status, luxury lifestyle, IG selfies. They don't care about playing time or depth chart. They care about fame and trying to look rich by living in a bubble of luxury.
 
WSU has a brand issue. If the in state kids don't want to come it is a referendum on the school experience and football program. They aren't into it. Fine. Go on down the road and find kids that are.

It is interesting that kids will commit to WSU sight unseen and in state kids won't even visit. Imo, it starts with beating the uw. Also it's the money. Schools that shell out millions and build themselves into a 4 star school get 4 star kids. Schools that are frugal or spend wisely, well, they get 3 star kids.

Choosing a school for these high end kids isn't about college majors or scheme. That's all BS. They're looking for social status, luxury lifestyle, IG selfies. They don't care about playing time or depth chart. They care about fame and trying to look rich by living in a bubble of luxury.

The brand issue is no coffee cups filled with cash.
 
BS. ALL THE CREDIBLE SOURCES IN THE WORLD: Players, COACHES, friends, family, the recruits, EXPERTS(Such as Brandon Huffman), SHUMPERT'S 7 ON 7 ELITE CAMP ALL STAR COACH, ETC, have either SAID, SHOWN, ETC, that AT LEAST Alexander, and probably all 3 would goto WSU, if SHUMPERT was OFFERED, committed, went to WSU, and that SHUMPERT was a LOCK to go to WSU if offered.

Rolo not offering SHUMPERT, IS NOT ROLO making a SUPPOSED READ that supposedly offering Shumpert would NOT land Alexander, etc.

Tinae going to UW, and Alexander likely going to ASU, isnt them indicating that they would goto WSU if WSU/Rolo offers Shumpert, and then them changing their mind, leaving Rolo, Shumpert hanging, and then Rolo reading that, and not offering Shumpert.

Probably the ONLY reason Alexander isnt going to WSU, and going to ASU instead, IS BECAUSE ROLO DID NOT OFFER Shumpert. And so Alexander is probably like, "Well if Rolo, WSU, wont offer Shumpert, I'll goto ASU then".

WSU, Rolo was doing the best job of recruiting Alexander. All the indicators was that he might goto WSU, even if Shumpert wasnt offered.

The ASU did one hell of a job recruiting him. And it probably became neck and neck close between WSU, and ASU.

If Rolo, WSU, had offered Shumpert, then that probably would have broken the neck and neck situation, and gotten Alexander to WSU, since ALEXANDER TELL THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY AT THE SAME PLACE AS SHUMPERT. AND ALEXANDER POSTED PICS OF ALEXANDER, SHUMPERT, TINAE, IN COUGAR FOOTBALL UNIFORMS, WITH THE TWEET THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME PLACE TOGETHER ATTACHED TO THE PIC.

Also Alexander/Shumpert went to COLLEGE GAMEDAY WSU, and watched WSU beat Oregon, and they CELEBRATED, and they STORMED THE FIELD and continued celebrating.

YOU DONT DO ALL THOSE THINGS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO GOTO WSU, IF SHUMPERT IS OFFERED by WSU, Rolo, and NOT goto WSU, IF SHUMPERT is offered.

Rolo blew it.

Not a read by Rolo.

That is BS from you.

You know, you could cut down on the lengths of your posts by 2/3rds and reduce your chances of getting carpal tunnel or arthritis if you limit yourself to one adjective or adverb instead of using a string of 3 that all mean the same thing.

Also, I think you keep accidentally hitting your Caps Lock button.
 
This class isn’t bad. It’s alright, and fine for the circumstances. I don’t know if I would say I like what they are doing, but I am
Very interested in seeing how these guys with academy offers develop. I like the idea of heady-hard nosed guys developed after 2 years. I also believe a few of the commits will move up in rankings. We’ll see
 
Alexander flipped the DB from Kentwood two months after getting hired.

Who's to say he can't do the same with the Kennedy Catholic trio?
 
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Oh the F’n IRONY

His Current Offer list:

Georgetown 1-AA
Idaho St 1-AA
Montana 1-AA
San Diego 1-AA
Bucknell 1-AA
Army
Air Force

Shumpert is a 3, THREE STAR. Occasionally a couple, few, some 3 stars, and even a 4 star, sometimes dont get P5, P12 offers, or very few P5, Pac 12 offers. WSU has gotten past 3 stars and a 4 star that either had no an or ALMOST NO P5, PAC 12 offers.

Bottom line Rolo REJECTED A 3, THREE STAR WR, TO GET 2, TWO star, 1, star, NR(Not Rated), etc.

Last I checked, 3 STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THEN 1 STAR, 2 STAR, NR.

Like I said it would be different if Rolo were rejecting a 3 star, for a 3.5 star, 4 star, 5 star, instead of rejecting a 3 star, for a 1 star, 2 star, NR.

But all this is missing the point that Rolo PROBABLY BLEW getting Alexander by NOT OFFERING Shumpert.
 
Shumpert is a 3, THREE STAR. Occasionally a couple, few, some 3 stars, and even a 4 star, sometimes dont get P5, P12 offers, or very few P5, Pac 12 offers. WSU has gotten past 3 stars and a 4 star that either had no an or ALMOST NO P5, PAC 12 offers.

Bottom line Rolo REJECTED A 3, THREE STAR WR, TO GET 2, TWO star, 1, star, NR(Not Rated), etc.

Last I checked, 3 STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THEN 1 STAR, 2 STAR, NR.

Like I said it would be different if Rolo were rejecting a 3 star, for a 3.5 star, 4 star, 5 star, instead of rejecting a 3 star, for a 1 star, 2 star, NR.

But all this is missing the point that Rolo PROBABLY BLEW getting Alexander by NOT OFFERING Shumpert.

COULD BE or maybe, possibly, perhaps, ROLO evaluates SHUMPERT and decided his ranking was in part, the causing of, due to, FACILITATED by, being surrounded, playing with, being helped, by HAVING OPPORTUNITIES given to him from having 3.5, 4, 4.1 star TINAE AND ALEXANDER, drawing coverage. Thus his production is tied to TEAMATEs, and not his own, personal, due to himself, PRODUCTION. OR MAYBE he decided he DIDNT want to be STONNGARMED into, taking, accepting, bowing to being forced into a PLAYER he DOESNT WANT. Some he thought had a 25-37% chance OF SUCCEEDING at WSU with the OTHER 15 HIGHLY SKILLED, talented, productive WRS. 53%
 
If Alexander and Tinae would have 100% come to WSU but only IF Rolo offered SHUmPERt, then neither wanted to go to WSU. More power to them. Rolo didn’t blow anything. If they wanted to be together so badly, why didn’t Tinae and Alexander end up in the same spot at least?

Because as I said before, there is a PROBABLY MINIMUM level that they are probably willing to play together at.

EWU, etc, is BELOW that level. WSU is at that minimum level.

Once the trio realized that the only way they coukd play together was at EWU, etc, they realized that it was every man for himself to get the best opportunity they could.

Thats why Tinae went to UW, and Alexander probably goto ASU.

Also for a time after WSU, Rolo made it clear that the trio wouldnt be playing together at WSU, Alexander probably did consider joining Tinae at UW. But ASU did one hell of a job getting Alexander from WSU/UW.

Also even if Alexander were to want to goto UW, UW probably would only offer the best of 2, 4 star WR, as UW already has some good WR's, and since UW doesnt have a big time passing offense. So Alexander might not be able to join Tinae at UW, even if he wanted to.

I have already explained all this, etc, 2,3,4 times.
 
WSU has a brand issue. If the in state kids don't want to come it is a referendum on the school experience and football program. They aren't into it. Fine. Go on down the road and find kids that are.

It is interesting that kids will commit to WSU sight unseen and in state kids won't even visit. Imo, it starts with beating the uw. Also it's the money. Schools that shell out millions and build themselves into a 4 star school get 4 star kids. Schools that are frugal or spend wisely, well, they get 3 star kids.

Choosing a school for these high end kids isn't about college majors or scheme. That's all BS. They're looking for social status, luxury lifestyle, IG selfies. They don't care about playing time or depth chart. They care about fame and trying to look rich by living in a bubble of luxury.

It's not a referendum on the school experience and football program. If that was true, we'd have a much better chance. It's a referendum on perceptions of WSU and Pullman that are inculcated into the youth of Washington--including in WSU's ostensible home market, Spokane--from the time they're old enough to read, made all the worse in today's era of social media and football recruits being social media stars in what for most will be the highlight of their lives.
 
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It's not a referendum on the school experience and football program. If that was true, we'd have a much better chance. It's a referendum on perceptions of WSU and Pullman that are inculcated into the youth of Washington--including in WSU's ostensible home market, Spokane--from the time they're old enough to read, made all the worse in today's era of social media and football recruits being social media stars in what for most will be the highlight of their lives.

For as long as I can remember WSU has been called second rate everything while UW is called a national power. Winning seasons at WSU received a condescending "It's nice you have a decent year every now and then." While disappointing seasons for UW have been treated as either bad luck or two an anomaly in a multi decade string of dominance. The average Washingtonian won't be impressed if the local high school star picks WSU. They feel the kid could play for the Cougs. Ending up at UW means the kid is objectively good. So does getting picked up by most out of state P5 programs.
For a generation obsessed with how much love they get on social media WSU won't bring them the respect they desire.

The other dynamic is a weird codependent relationship in the rivalry. Lots of Cougs just want some form of approval from Huskies. The entire fandom revolves around sticking it to UW. We have to win recruits in state because we can talk trash to UW. 2-11 is acceptable if we win the Apple Cup. It's sad. But nearly as sad as how Huskies need us to care about them. They pretend like Oregon is their rival but talk nonstop trash about the Apple Cup. They love to tell us they get the best talent in state (it's not like they are trying to get Oregon's attention with this comments). And they hate (with a fiery passion) any WSU coach who doesn't act like the AC means everything to him.
 
COULD BE or maybe, possibly, perhaps, ROLO evaluates SHUMPERT and decided his ranking was in part, the causing of, due to, FACILITATED by, being surrounded, playing with, being helped, by HAVING OPPORTUNITIES given to him from having 3.5, 4, 4.1 star TINAE AND ALEXANDER, drawing coverage. Thus his production is tied to TEAMATEs, and not his own, personal, due to himself, PRODUCTION. OR MAYBE he decided he DIDNT want to be STONNGARMED into, taking, accepting, bowing to being forced into a PLAYER he DOESNT WANT. Some he thought had a 25-37% chance OF SUCCEEDING at WSU with the OTHER 15 HIGHLY SKILLED, talented, productive WRS. 53%

I love mik and everything he posts on this board but I just want to point out that this is top notch parody. Can't believe there aren't more likes. Bravo.
 
For as long as I can remember WSU has been called second rate everything while UW is called a national power. Winning seasons at WSU received a condescending "It's nice you have a decent year every now and then." While disappointing seasons for UW have been treated as either bad luck or two an anomaly in a multi decade string of dominance. The average Washingtonian won't be impressed if the local high school star picks WSU. They feel the kid could play for the Cougs. Ending up at UW means the kid is objectively good. So does getting picked up by most out of state P5 programs.
For a generation obsessed with how much love they get on social media WSU won't bring them the respect they desire.

The other dynamic is a weird codependent relationship in the rivalry. Lots of Cougs just want some form of approval from Huskies. The entire fandom revolves around sticking it to UW. We have to win recruits in state because we can talk trash to UW. 2-11 is acceptable if we win the Apple Cup. It's sad. But nearly as sad as how Huskies need us to care about them. They pretend like Oregon is their rival but talk nonstop trash about the Apple Cup. They love to tell us they get the best talent in state (it's not like they are trying to get Oregon's attention with this comments). And they hate (with a fiery passion) any WSU coach who doesn't act like the AC means everything to him.

Agree with all of this. Some UW fans pretend that they don't need it or don't care, but they all do. The rest of this is spot-on as well. Sadly, even something like a 4-year run of pretty good football overall, with the team contending seriously for the Pac-12 North every year, didn't even come close to putting a dent in it. This culminated with a top-10 ranking, 11 wins, and an Alamo Bowl title, and even that didn't even come close to nicking it. It might have if the Apple Cups were evenly split in that timeframe and UW was in its mid- to late-2000s mode, but even then, the narrative would be all about how this was transitory and how UW was going to go out and hire [whoever] and things would go back to how they were.

Changing some of this is possible but it will take a series of good hires, major investment (primarily to keep good assistants), and a long -- not 4 years, but more like 8, minimum, with at least 1/3 of those years with WSU wins in the AC, preferably more -- to modify this in a palpable way. Even then, we're just talking about changing an overall narrative and getting some more credibility, not necessarily changing the dynamic with UW in a huge way. Kansas State has established itself as a decent football program in most years, for example, but it still won't be winning recruiting battles against Texas, Texas A&M, or Oklahoma, even though only the latter has actually played like a national power in recent history. UW fans even still talk about Oregon like it's a flash in the pan, even as Oregon not only is a peer but has spent much of the past 12 years eclipsing UW on the field, with that interrupted only by a particularly weak Helfrich hire and a particularly strong Petersen hire.
 
Well, it was once thought that if we built it, they would come. We did, they didn't. Some said that if we had a consistent winner, they would come. Leach did, they didn't. We did both concurrently, they still didn't come. Let's face it, there is no easy solution. Is it impossible? No. There was a brief period of time when when the Cougs were as deep and talented as any team in the conference, that is a fact. We also had instances when we were as talented, but were razor thin, or too one sided, as well. There is a road map out there. For Rolo, he needs figure out what will work, both short and long term. If he can't, stick a fork in him.

As for NW kids, did anyone really think he would come in and turn it around overnight? Even Price, the son of an respected in-state coach, whose career was based on building "relationships" with NW coaches and high schools, missed far more than he hit, even after 1997. Rolo has none of that background. If he is going to win at WSU, he will have to do it the Leach way, initially, through "win with less" systems, and superior talent evaluation of lower end recruits, with a plan of concurrently building the relationships, as Biggs points out, to start win recruiting battles for mid and high end recruits, in the future.
 
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I love mik and everything he posts on this board but I just want to point out that this is top notch parody. Can't believe there aren't more likes. Bravo.
I did it once it twice, but honestly it's just low hanging fruit. For whatever content he may contribute, the endless rants and nonsensical numbers landed mik on my ignore list.
 
Well, it was once thought that if we built it, they would come. We did, they didn't. Some said that if we had a consistent winner, they would come. Leach did, they didn't. We did both concurrently, they still didn't come. Let's face it, there is no easy solution.

If you think Leach and Co didn't get kids (or Asst Coach's to Pullman, WA) due to the FOB and their on-field success you are either not paying attention or have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry this statement is filled with either unrealistic expectations or some type of a bent Coug agenda.
 
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Huskies need us to care about them. They pretend like Oregon is their rival but talk nonstop trash about the Apple Cup. They love to tell us they get the best talent in state (it's not like they are trying to get Oregon's attention with this comments). And they hate (with a fiery passion) any WSU coach who doesn't act like the AC means everything to him.
E-Town, you nailed it.

Makes sense that so many arrogant and snobby UW types in the Seattle area mocked and ridiculed Leach simply because CML remained so even-keeled about the Apple Cup. Drove 'em nuts.

Meanwhile, those same idiotic fans embrace Jim Walden as a "lovable Coug" -- even though he kicked UW's tails several times and single-handedly returned the rivalry to Pullman -- because CJW made it clear the Apple Cup was just that important.

Now which fanbase is obsessed again?
 
E-Town, you nailed it.

Makes sense that so many arrogant and snobby UW types in the Seattle area mocked and ridiculed Leach simply because CML remained so even-keeled about the Apple Cup. Drove 'em nuts.

Meanwhile, those same idiotic fans embrace Jim Walden as a "lovable Coug" -- even though he kicked UW's tails several times and single-handedly returned the rivalry to Pullman -- because CJW made it clear the Apple Cup was just that important.

Now which fanbase is obsessed again?
Personally, I think many UW fans mocked and ridiculed Leach because he stubbornly refused to make the necessary adjustments to counteract UW's defensive scheme, thus WSU got pounded year after year in the Apple Cup. I don't think his indifference to the Apple Cup drove them nuts at all....they enjoyed the results. One of those "fans" doing the mocking is now UW's head coach.

Glad Cougar
 
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Shumpert is a 3, THREE STAR. Occasionally a couple, few, some 3 stars, and even a 4 star, sometimes dont get P5, P12 offers, or very few P5, Pac 12 offers. WSU has gotten past 3 stars and a 4 star that either had no an or ALMOST NO P5, PAC 12 offers.

Bottom line Rolo REJECTED A 3, THREE STAR WR, TO GET 2, TWO star, 1, star, NR(Not Rated), etc.

Last I checked, 3 STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THEN 1 STAR, 2 STAR, NR.

Like I said it would be different if Rolo were rejecting a 3 star, for a 3.5 star, 4 star, 5 star, instead of rejecting a 3 star, for a 1 star, 2 star, NR.

But all this is missing the point that Rolo PROBABLY BLEW getting Alexander by NOT OFFERING Shumpert.
He’s a Washington 3*. Which means he’s a Texas, Cali, Fl, Midwest 2*.
 
Personally, I think many UW fans mocked and ridiculed Leach because he stubbornly refused to make the necessary adjustments to counteract UW's defensive scheme, thus WSU got pounded year after year in the Apple Cup. I don't think his indifference to the Apple Cup drove them nuts at all....they enjoyed the results. One of those "fans" doing the mocking is now UW's head coach.

Glad Cougar

That's another way of saying they mocked him for not treating them like they were special. UW prepped for us an hour every week. Probably lost a game a year because of this lack of focus on the task at hand.
 
If you think Leach and Co didn't get kids (or Asst Coach's to Pullman, WA) due to the FOB and their on-field success you are either not paying attention or have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry this statement is filled with either unrealistic expectations or some type of a bent Coug agenda.

Stop the overdone Leach kiss arsing, he's gone!

There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the difficulty recruiting to Pullman and the fact that despite the FOB and all his ability to win Leach, recruits we rated in the bottom rung on the conference consistently (check this site's rankings). Leach did a great job spotting kids he could win with (talent evaluation, i.e. Minshew), but don't confuse that with beating other conference schools for sought after kids, which is recruiting.

Leach is a great coach, but recruiting is his Achilles heel, and why he hasn't and probably never will win a championship. Price, who couldn't hold Leach's jock strap as a technical coach, on a shoe string budget, average facilities and inconsistent track record, took us to 2 Rose Bowls, when the conference was still top notch. That is because he signed high end recruits and upper division recruiting classes on occasion, enough to get over the hump, twice.

Ask Kyle Smith, who just signed our best basketball recruiting class in 40 years whether recruiting well to Pullman is an unrealistic expectation these days. Just because Leach didn't, and Rolo isn't, doesn't mean it can't be done.
 
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