Why does Smith tolerate turnovers?

[How_did_this_happen?]

He's an excellent recruiter, but an average coach.

Yes, he's had a lot of injury issues (inexplicable/unlucky ones).

I really like Smith, but that is my assessment of him as a coach.

Turnovers are the ruin of a team's potential. They cannot be tolerated by a coach. Every single possession is valuable.

 

[NMBRCRNCHR]

I watched most of the game today and it seemed so many of the TOs were either lazy bounce passes or like our guy's eyes were closed. I'll give credit to the Rebs, they were stout on D after the 10 minutes of the game.

 

[Glad Cougar]

UNLV overplayed on defense which led to a lot of deflected passes or flat out interceptions, and this young Cougar team didn't know how to respond. Back door cuts would've been nice. There's also the problem of the pass recipient not coming hard enough to meet the ball, not just the fault of the passer. But yes, there were plenty of lazy passes and bad angle passes to last a lifetime.

Not sure Smith is wanting to tolerate the turnovers, but he really can't sit very many guys down to get the message across. There's nobody to take their place right now.

Glad Cougar

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

UNLV overplayed on defense which led to a lot of deflected passes or flat out interceptions, and this young Cougar team didn't know how to respond. Back door cuts would've been nice. There's also the problem of the pass recipient not coming hard enough to meet the ball, not just the fault of the passer. But yes, there were plenty of lazy passes and bad angle passes to last a lifetime.

Not sure Smith is wanting to tolerate the turnovers, but he really can't sit very many guys down to get the message across. There's nobody to take their place right now.

Glad Cougar

All true, but we've been a team that (as I recall) has exceeded the average number of team turnovers during Smith's tenure. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

So it goes beyond just this year's team.

Again, I like Smith, but he seems to tolerate this more than he should imo.

 

[gpcoug]

This is a new era though. You bench a guy he's in the portal next week. It must be so hard to be a college coach right now.

 

[mikalalas]

He's an excellent recruiter, but an average coach.

Yes, he's had a lot of injury issues (inexplicable/unlucky ones).

I really like Smith, but that is my assessment of him as a coach.

Turnovers are the ruin of a team's potential. They cannot be tolerated by a coach. Every single possession is valuable.

That's a fair assessment. I think Smith is a awesome recruiter, and between a average to above average coach.

I think he does care and does try to stop turnovers. I think he has a lot of semi Tony Bennet coaching skills.

He really values defense, rebounding, and only running and gunning, fast breaking, when makes sense, when under control.

And he believes in passing.

And unless he is doing coach speak, lying, he is constantly talking about how important it is to pass, take care of ball, limit turnovers, etc, and how he works on that in practice, games, etc.

But despite that, he gets players that either don't learn to take care of ball, limit turnovers, pass, etc.

Now some would say why doesn't he bench them?

Because they are too good in the other things that they do that are good, whether scoring, defense, etc.

Other might say then, then why does Smith recruit those players then?

Because they are 4,5 star recruits, that he Smith beat out Duke's, for that are athletic, that have potential, upside, that are too good in theory to pass on.

Could you imagine if Smith passed on high ranked, but semi turnover prone recruits that he would get a verbal, signed letter of intent, and instead went after the low ranked, non turnover prone Dick Bennet ESQUE, lower ranked recruits, and if Smith lost more because of that, and if it came out, that that's what he was doing, and if a 4 star recruit, said something like "I wanted to play at WSU, but Smith passed on me, said I was too turnover prone", the night of him being picked as a Lottery pick, etc.

Or can you Imagine if a player played at WSU and then if Smith were to try extremely hard to teach XYZ player to turnover ball less, and then if that XYZ player either wouldn't listen, or struggled to learn, and then if Smith were to bench him, and then if the player were to go-to another college, then XYZ player got picked as Lottery Pick and said "Man, I just wanted to play at WSU, but Smith benched me, permanently, because he said that I had too many turnovers, despite all the scoring, etc, I did"

I think some of it, is he thinks he can coach the players to turn ball over less.

But part of it is maybe not Smith's fault technically, because of Injuries.

Part of it is that when you have to replace almost all the key, rotational players, starters, almost whole team.

The players are new to each other. They haven't JELLED, haven't developed chemistry, haven't learned to play together.

Then you throw in injuries on top of that, and that's a recipe for more turnovers.

I'm sure next season, Smith will have less turnovers, unless has to Almost replace the whole team again, or gets a lot of injuries again.

Also I think that injuries, turnovers, lots of bad luck things happen to Smith.

But that said, I understand that the buck stops with the HC Smith.

But it's not like Smith is a bad coach, losing coach(yes he is 4-5 NOW, but by end of season, he will have at least 16,17 wins minimum.)

Smith has been 500+, winning, + has improved the team's results each year, + good conference record by WSU standards(8-10, 9-9, 10-8, etc, type), + CBI, + NIT FINAL FOUR, + 22,23 total wins in a season(reg season + PAC 12 tourny + NIT).

Smith is kind of like a Leach in bball, production wise

Does Smith, and did Leach leave meat on the bone?

Yes.

Is that frustrating?

Yes.

BUT Smith is not a Romar, Hopkins, etc, where a BAD coach, good recruiter.

Smith is a Awesome recruiter, and somewhere between a slightly barely below average to average to slightly above average X's and O's, teaching, coaching skills, etc.

I think Smith, WSU will win about 16,17 games this season, and NEXT SEASON, will probably win about 19,20,21,22,23 games, 2,3,4 in conference, 4,5,6 seed in NCAA, 2nd round, sweet 16, etc, IF Smith doesn't have to to REPLACE A LOT AGAIN, and IF Smith doesn't have a lot of injuries.

Can't believe a supposed Coug fan wanted Smith fired after the PVAM loss.

Bet he wanted Leach fired too.

That supposed Coug fan set the firing, hot seat bar at NCAA tourny or bust.

 

[jourdand]

We don’t need to worry about a former WSU player telling the world he left WSU because he got benched, during his lottery selection speech. We don’t have that level of player and if we ever do they won’t be getting benched.

I agree Smith gets a general pass record wise for this year due to injuries and illness. If we don’t get Abe and Jaki back pretty soon we will be lucky to win 3 PAC12 games. Replacing the whole team is how the college basketball landscape is right now. Hopefully it will change but probably not right away.

Smith is an great recruiter or he has put together a staff that is great at recruiting. I can’t believe a coach has gotten to this level if they can’t coach. So again a pass for this year but it does bother me that against man defense we seem to run zero offense.

In order to win 16 games this year we have to win 12 more games. I’m not sure we have 12 winnable games left. Not with what we have right now.
I predict 9-23 as a record this year. I say we win 2 in Hawaii and 3 in conference, both CAL games and OSU. We could pull an upset somewhere along the way but could also loose every game left but CAL we can’t loose to CAL….knock on wood!!

 

[mikalalas]

We don’t need to worry about a former WSU player telling the world he left WSU because he got benched, during his lottery selection speech. We don’t have that level of player and if we ever do they won’t be getting benched.

I agree Smith gets a general pass record wise for this year due to injuries and illness. If we don’t get Abe and Jaki back pretty soon we will be lucky to win 3 PAC12 games. Replacing the whole team is how the college basketball landscape is right now. Hopefully it will change but probably not right away.

Smith is an great recruiter or he has put together a staff that is great at recruiting. I can’t believe a coach has gotten to this level if they can’t coach. So again a pass for this year but it does bother me that against man defense we seem to run zero offense.

In order to win 16 games this year we have to win 12 more games. I’m not sure we have 12 winnable games left. Not with what we have right now.
I predict 9-23 as a record this year. I say we win 2 in Hawaii and 3 in conference, both CAL games and OSU. We could pull an upset somewhere along the way but could also loose every game left but CAL we can’t loose to CAL….knock on wood!!

I disagree that won't get at least 15,16 wins. Smith said that Jaki is out 7 to 10 to 13 more days, and said the same is true of Jabe.


Without Jabe and Jaki during that time, WSU is going to lose to the good teams, like the UNLV's.


Against middle to semi above average teams, WSU will be Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde. WSU has had some pretty good games, while injured, against some decent teams like Texas St, and Detroit had the BEST SCORER, PERHAPS ARGUABLY BEST PLAYER IN NATION, and BLEW THEM OUT BY 40+ POINTS.


The problem is we don't know which injured WSU team will show up vs these middle, decent, ok, etc, teams, whether it will be Detroit WSU, or the other WSU.


Because of that WSU will win half it's games, and lose half it's games vs the middle teams, while they are INJURED.


The team's like Cal, they should beat no matter what, but can still get upset by Cal, if play Cal while injured, because WSU was supposed to blow out PVAM.


Because of that WSU wins almost all of its Cal type games, and only loses 1 of these type of games, if played while WSU injured.


And this is all during the next 2,3 weeks of WSU being injured.


Once WSU is healthy, recovered in about 3,4 weeks, all the above changes. A healthy WSU probably occasionally beats good teams like UNLV, even tho they lose at least half or more of UNLV type games.


Against middle teams WSU will win almost all those games, and only lose 1,2,3, etc, occasional, etc, game.


Against Cal types, they will win every one of these type games, if played while WSU healthy.


Also WSU players once WSU is healthy, will start to Jell, develop, develop chemistry, learn to play together, learn to win, learn from the HARD KNOCKS taken earlier in season, when injured, develop depth(because the starters were injured, and players like Rosario, etc, had to play), and that with their healthy recovered from injury starters, etc, will help WSU win games, get stronger, better, later in season, etc.


Because of the above, assuming what Smith said is right, that get injured players except for Jackson, Rice, back in 2 weeks, WSU will probably win about 10,11,12,13, 14,etc, more games, and win 15,16,17 games, this season.


Your errantly basing your projections on the early season results, before WSU players develop, Jell, Have Chemistry, Learn to play together, before get injured players back in 2 weeks, etc.

It's like in the movie Armageddon. You can't go by the US AIRFORCE, NASA DRILL TIME PLAN, where according to that plan, they failed because they had only drilled 50 feet, instead of lots more feet.

If that movie were real life, you would have also said ok, set off the nuke on the asteroid, they have only gotten 50ft, and are probably not gonna get 800 feet.

Just because WSU has only drilled 50 ft(4-5,etc), because they were drilling thru IRON FERRITE(Injuries, etc), that doesn't mean that WSU won't get to 800 feet(Win 11,12,13, more games, win 15,16,17 games), once get thru that Iron(Injuries, etc,)

 

[mikalalas]

I disagree that won't get at least 15,16 wins. Smith said that Jaki is out 7 to 10 to 13 more days, and said the same is true of Jabe.


Without Jabe and Jaki during that time, WSU is going to lose to the good teams, like the UNLV's.


Against middle to semi above average teams, WSU will be Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde. WSU has had some pretty good games, while injured, against some decent teams like Texas St, and Detroit had the BEST SCORER, PERHAPS ARGUABLY BEST PLAYER IN NATION, and BLEW THEM OUT BY 40+ POINTS.


The problem is we don't know which injured WSU team will show up vs these middle, decent, ok, etc, teams, whether it will be Detroit WSU, or the other WSU.


Because of that WSU will win half it's games, and lose half it's games vs the middle teams, while they are INJURED.


The team's like Cal, they should beat no matter what, but can still get upset by Cal, if play Cal while injured, because WSU was supposed to blow out PVAM.


Because of that WSU wins almost all of its Cal type games, and only loses 1 of these type of games, if played while WSU injured.


And this is all during the next 2,3 weeks of WSU being injured.


Once WSU is healthy, recovered in about 3,4 weeks, all the above changes. A healthy WSU probably occasionally beats good teams like UNLV, even tho they lose at least half or more of UNLV type games.


Against middle teams WSU will win almost all those games, and only lose 1,2,3, etc, occasional, etc, game.


Against Cal types, they will win every one of these type games, if played while WSU healthy.


Also WSU players once WSU is healthy, will start to Jell, develop, develop chemistry, learn to play together, learn to win, learn from the HARD KNOCKS taken earlier in season, when injured, develop depth(because the starters were injured, and players like Rosario, etc, had to play), and that with their healthy recovered from injury starters, etc, will help WSU win games, get stronger, better, later in season, etc.


Because of the above, assuming what Smith said is right, that get injured players except for Jackson, Rice, back in 2 weeks, WSU will probably win about 10,11,12,13, 14,etc, more games, and win 15,16,17 games, this season.


Your errantly basing your projections on the early season results, before WSU players develop, Jell, Have Chemistry, Learn to play together, before get injured players back in 2 weeks, etc.

It's like in the movie Armageddon. You can't go by the US AIRFORCE, NASA DRILL TIME PLAN, where according to that plan, they failed because they had only drilled 50 feet, instead of lots more feet.

If that movie were real life, you would have also said ok, set off the nuke on the asteroid, they have only gotten 50ft, and are probably not gonna get 800 feet.

Just because WSU has only drilled 50 ft(4-5,etc), because they were drilling thru IRON FERRITE(Injuries, etc), that doesn't mean that WSU won't get to 800 feet(Win 11,12,13, more games, win 15,16,17 games), once get thru that Iron(Injuries, etc,)

Also Smith's first year that had way the hell less talent, in a Stronger, tougher PAC 12, then what this year's team has, went 500, won 14,15,16 games.

And Smith also almost lost that team to the Portal, and had injuries.

Smith has a habit of overcoming injuries, and having at least a 500 season, winning season, etc.

Also the Pac 12 is down, easier this year.

Only way WSU only wins 9,10 games, as per Jourdands prediction, is if Jabe, Jaki, others injured all season long, in addition to Jackson, Rice.


Again Smith says get Jabe, Jaki back in about 7-10-13 days.

 

[jourdand]

I can’t find any injury updates that give any return times for either player. Jaki will not be game ready for a week or so even after he returns and I’m really starting to worry Jabe might be surgery bound.

 

[Observer11]

Noah Williams was a human turnover.

And look how the kid glove approach turned out with him.

Turn the ball over, have a seat. Coach it, allow it to happen. Something like that.

 

[mikalalas]

I can’t find any injury updates that give any return times for either player. Jaki will not be game ready for a week or so even after he returns and I’m really starting to worry Jabe might be surgery bound.

During the radio broadcast interview of Smith, when asked about how long Jabe, Jaki would be out, he said that it would be about a number of days, a week or 2, but nothing exact or specific, on exactly when would get back.

In another thread, the question was asked when Jabe, Jaki would be back.

The answer given of about 7 to 10 to 13 days, jives with what Smith said during the pre UNLV game, radio broadcast interview.

So altho no OFFICIAL injury updates, because Smith said it, you go by that.

Official injury updates aren't always timely, and coaches like Smith often give unofficial injury updates, that aren't in official injury updates.

 

[jourdand]

Go back and listen again to the interview, never says anything about the injuries not one thing. To help you speed up up the process the interview starts at 16:03 in the broadcast.

 

[mikalalas]

Go back and listen again to the interview, never says anything about the injuries not one thing. To help you speed up up the process the interview starts at 16:03 in the broadcast.

The RADIO BROADCAST is long over. It's almost always at the WSU cougars.com official WSU website. Usually after it's over, they take it down, it's not recorded, etc.

At least if it exist, I'm usually not able to find it.

The game also had a TV BROADCAST on FS1.

You might have been talking about the TV BROADCAST.

I don't know if Kyle Smith does 2 separate interviews, 1 for TV, and 1 for radio, or if it's the same interview for both TV and Radio.

All I know is that this is what I heard. Maybe the announcers said something in Speculation, and I misremembered, thought it came from the coach instead. Maybe I misheard, misunderstood the coach.

All I know is that I heard it SOMEWHERE, wherever that is, was, and am not pulling it out of my butt, out of nowhere.

 

[mikalalas]

The RADIO BROADCAST is long over. It's almost always at the WSU cougars.com official WSU website. Usually after it's over, they take it down, it's not recorded, etc.

At least if it exist, I'm usually not able to find it.

The game also had a TV BROADCAST on FS1.

You might have been talking about the TV BROADCAST.

I don't know if Kyle Smith does 2 separate interviews, 1 for TV, and 1 for radio, or if it's the same interview for both TV and Radio.

All I know is that this is what I heard. Maybe the announcers said something in Speculation, and I misremembered, thought it came from the coach instead. Maybe I misheard, misunderstood the coach.

All I know is that I heard it SOMEWHERE, wherever that is, was, and am not pulling it out of my butt, out of nowhere.

Also I am NOT talking about the official pregame, post game interviews with Kyle Smith that are on You Tube, that are posted on WSU watch, that you can watch.

What I am talking about is where the RADIO BROADCAST announcers talk with Smith for a few minutes right before the game, after he done with the mainstream sports media, TV, etc.

That is not 16 minutes long, so there is no stopping that at 16, because the radio guys talking to Smith for a few minutes before the game, does not last 16+ minutes.

Also like I said, once the radio broadcast is done, I have not been able to find it, because they usually take it down after it's over.

 

[mikalalas]

Also I am NOT talking about the official pregame, post game interviews with Kyle Smith that are on You Tube, that are posted on WSU watch, that you can watch.

What I am talking about is where the RADIO BROADCAST announcers talk with Smith for a few minutes right before the game, after he done with the mainstream sports media, TV, etc.

That is not 16 minutes long, so there is no stopping that at 16, because the radio guys talking to Smith for a few minutes before the game, does not last 16+ minutes.

Also like I said, once the radio broadcast is done, I have not been able to find it, because they usually take it down after it's over.

And in that source, I am pretty sure that one of the radio guys asked Smith, when Jabe, Jaki was gonna be back, healthy, play again, etc.

And Smith answered by saying that altho nothing specific, etc, that Jabe, Jaki, were About a number of days, 1,2 weeks from being back at the soonest, but that nothing specific yet.

Now that might be speculation by Smith, or hopeful thinking by Smith, etc, so not official.

Now that's what I am pretty sure I heard.

Not pulling it out of thin air.

That said, maybe I am misremembering, misunderstanding, or maybe a radio guy made a speculation on, about injuries, and I thought it came from Smith, etc.

 

[jourdand]

Your lying, I don’t understand why you can’t just admit when you’re wrong. You just dig a bigger and bigger hole. Even after you are proven wrong and caught in a bold face lie you continue it. You should consider a life in politics.

 

[mikalalas]

Your lying, I don’t understand why you can’t just admit when you’re wrong. You just dig a bigger and bigger hole. Even after you are proven wrong and caught in a bold face lie you continue it. You should consider a life in politics.

No I am most certainly not LYING AND YOU CAN GO F OFF AND F YOURSELF

 

[jourdand]

The radio broadcast is on the web site

 

[mikalalas]

The radio broadcast is on the web site

Whenever I google say WSU vs Opponent Radio broadcast 2022 bball game, it brings up a link to WSU cougars.com.

When click, go there, there is a red colored box. That box is the upcoming games, and currently streaming games.

Those games have a yellowish, orangish, little square bullet box next to them, that can click.

When click that it start playing the game. When click it again, it stops playing the game.

AFTER THE GAME IS OVER AND AFTER THE ANNOUNCERS, RADIO BROADCAST IS OVER, THE, THIS GAME LINK, AND THE YELLOWISH, ORANGISH, CLICKABLE, SQUARE BOX DISAPPEARS AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO BE FOUND, NO LONGER FINDABLE IN THAT AREA.

THE UPCOMING GAMES, AND CURRENT GAMES BOX IS EMPTY, AFTER THAT UNTIL THEY PUT NEW CURRENT, UPCOMING GAMES IN THAT AREA

I HAVE LOOKED FOR FULL GAME RECORDINGS OF THE RADIO BROADCASTED GAMES, AFTER THE GAME IS OVER, AFTER THE RED BOX OF UPCOMING GAMES, CURRENT GAMES, IS EMPTY, ON THE WEBSITE.

I DID NOT FIND RECORDINGS OF THE RADIO BROADCAST GAMES.

NOW MAYBE YOU ARE BETTER AT SEARCHING, SCOURING, NAVIGATING THE WEBSITE, AND FINDING THINGS THEN I AM.

ALSO WEBSITES DONT ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST NAVIGATION, STRUCTURE, ETC, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, SOME PEOPLE CAN GET CONFUSED, NOT KNOW HOW, WHERE TO FIND STUFF.

YOU CAN CALL ME A IDIOT, OR WRONG, OR NOT VERY GOOD AT DOING SOMETHING, ETC.

BUT WHEN I HAVE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL WHAT HAPPENED AND SAID THAT I AM PRETTY SURE THAT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT I HEARD, OR WHAT I THOUGHT HAPPENED, WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD, OR WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, OR MAYBE I MISHEARD, OR MISUNDERSTOOD, AN OR MAYBE THE ANNOUNCERS SPECULATED THIS THAT, AND MAYBE THE ANNOUNCERS SPECULATION CAUSED ME TO THINK IT WAS COMING FROM SMITH, INSTEAD OF FROM ANNOUNCER, AND WHEN I SAY, EXPLAIN THAT THE BROADCAST ISNT RECORDED, IS TAKEN DOWN AFTER THE GAME, THAT I CANT FIND IT AFTER THE GAME, ETC, ETC, ETC, YOU CAN CALL ME WRONG, EXPLAIN WHY I AM WRONG, PROVE I AM WRONG, MISTAKEN, ETC, ALL YOU WANT, BUT DONT CALL ME A LIAR, SAY I AM BEING DECEPTIVE, COVERING THINGS UP, INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING, TRYING TO DECEIVE, ETC, ETC,ETC, SINCE I AM NOT LYING, NOT DOING THAT, ETC, AND IF YOU CONTINUE CALLING ME THAT, OR SAYING I AM DOING THAT, SINCE I AM NOT DOING THAT:


THEN YOU CAN GO F OFF, F YOURSELF, AND I WILL PUT YOU ON IGNORE.

THATS NOT A THREAT. THATS WHAT I WILL ACTUALLY DO.

I WONT READ YOUR EFFIN SHET CALLING ME A EFFIN LIAR, ETC.

I'LL IGNORE YOU, SO THAT I WONT HAVE TO READ, DEAL WITH YOUR WRONGFULLY ACCUSATORY, NAME CALLING, SHET DRIVEL, ETC.

Also that's better then the back and forth that goes on between Ed and others.

Endless arguing, fighting, bickering, etc, between people on message boards is pointless, and I'll not be a part of that.

 

[jourdand]

You realize the reason others don’t call you out is they already ignore you.
Black box says past events it’s still there not hard to find.

Maybe WSU might could possibly should, if they live up to potential/ semi potential/ on paper what I’ve heard or think I’ve heard potential and don’t piss in the toilet said imaginary potential win between 15,16,17 games on the low end to 18,19,20 games on the higher end, second round of NCAA tourney to sweet sixteen on higher end.

Then next year if everybody stays and Smith continues to out recruit all the blue blood semi blue blood programs like Duke and doesn’t have to replace entire roster or close to semi close replace the whole roster WSU should then semi possibly could or should win between 20,21,22 games low end to 25,26, or even40 games win a national championship or second place only lose one game in whole NCAA tourney while others lose 2,3or more in tourney. The and only then wsu will be blue blood semi blue blood Duke ish type program.
Just like the great documentary “Armageddon “ WSU will save the basketball world and continue to win blue blood type semi/ blue blood type championships. It’s not just me that says this I think I might have heard it on a radio broadcast or saw it on a made up web site that mysteriously disappeared like no other thing has ever done. With all this Smith will stay at WSU for 20-25 years to 30 years like Mark Few.
If and only if the players stay all four years they will score 5,6,8 or more each year they stay and move from bottom of second round at worst to lottery picks at best.

I could keep going but it’s tiring making so much crap up. But logically semi logical mr Spockish people believe this is possible and you say it isn’t so then I’ll just make more crap up and typ other long nonsense posts explaining how everything I said is all correct because I’m pretty sure I heard an announcer say it in the movie “semi pro “

 

[whoisyaodaddy]

He's an excellent recruiter, but an average coach.

Yes, he's had a lot of injury issues (inexplicable/unlucky ones).

I really like Smith, but that is my assessment of him as a coach.

Turnovers are the ruin of a team's potential. They cannot be tolerated by a coach. Every single possession is valuable.

WSU really misses Jackson and to a lesser extent Abogidi. I was at the game and there is absolutely no inside game. I don't really see it on TV but it is crystal clear when you are 20 feet from the court. The Frenchmen need to improve their basketball skills and IQ. It's clear that they are adapting to more aggressive defenses than what they were used to in Europe. Darling hustles but at this point in his career he is not big or strong enough to breakdown good Power 5 guards. I am not sure why the 7' freshmen is on the bench. Seems like he could at least cause some match up issues. It is also clear that WSU and other West Coast schools don't have elite fan bases. The UA/Indiana game was virtually a home game for UI. AZ was the better team but UI clearly had the most fans in the MGM Garden Arena.

 

[COUGinNCW]

WSU really misses Jackson and to a lesser extent Abogidi. I was at the game and there is absolutely no inside game. I don't really see it on TV but it is crystal clear when you are 20 feet from the court. The Frenchmen need to improve their basketball skills and IQ. It's clear that they are adapting to more aggressive defenses than what they were used to in Europe. Darling hustles but at this point in his career he is not big or strong enough to breakdown good Power 5 guards. I am not sure why the 7' freshmen is on the bench. Seems like he could at least cause some match up issues. It is also clear that WSU and other West Coast schools don't have elite fan bases. The UA/Indiana game was virtually a home game for UI. AZ was the better team but UI clearly had the most fans in the MGM Garden Arena.

Most Arizona people have all been to Vegas multiple times to the point they are probably sick of it like me. If I lived in Indiana, Vegas would be a great road trip.